thoughts on a new irvine home stonegate orchard hills

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I will throw in a few thoughts:

1)  OH has some interesting neighborhoods and is likely to command a bigger premium years to come over Stonegate.

2)  IMO, the OH shopping center is better than the Woodbury Shopping Center (with the exception of Trader Joes).

3) OH is not all that family friendly.  Since it is on a hill, all of the parks and facilities are centralized.  No neighborhood parks.  So, if you want to take your kid to play or swim, you're going to have to drive them there.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
#FARM said:
I care about schools, appreciation, costs, weather and prestige.. this is why we bought in JC. 
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3 out of 5 isn't bad in JC.
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If Panda lives there then that alone makes it prestigious.  The weather is awesome here!! Way better than Irvine for sure!!
 
I remember I was in Macon, GA and talking to some lady.  I told her I was born in the USA and so she says, "Oh, so you're familiar with Capitalism already."
 
jmoney74 said:
I remember I was in Macon, GA and talking to some lady.  I told her I was born in the USA and so she says, "Oh, so you're familiar with Capitalism already."
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Yes...I know it as a necessary step to creation of communism and victory for the people.
 
Topography vs flatland. Quail Hills was intended as a value village but 1/2 way through the project the over whelming demands for Cal Pac's Olivos prompted Richmond American and Stan Pac to build a much luxury product recognizing topography has a higher prestige association with buyers. The question here is which is better between Orchard or Stonegate? I actually prefer neither but I gave an honest objective answer. Perception is important when comes to resale. Look at Portola Springs when every one said it is a boonie despite of merely an extra mile journey the perception hurts sales through this day. Count me out because Stonegate has Zero appeal and I want people to see that I have good taste and Why would I want to live there that hurt my image. Will others feel the same way as me? Absolutely! I do like the abbreviations and rearranged the letters a bit like LV LV.
 
I'm not very familiar with the pricing of OH but which community in the gated OH side is comparable to SG ?  Aside from Sausalito and maybe Arcadia, I don't think there is a similar price point community between SG and gated side OH ??
 
GH said:
I'm not very familiar with the pricing of OH but which community in the gated OH side is comparable to SG ?  Aside from Sausalito and maybe Arcadia, I don't think there is a similar price point community between SG and gated side OH ??
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You can't really compare SG and OH price point.  SG was priced low during the recession and then prices shot up during the mini-boom.  Saratoga was selling for about mid $800K when they finished the phase.  OH has basically the same floor plan (plus a few improvements) on the non-gated side for about $100K more.
 
Living in Irvine is all about investment and appreciation. Homes on a hill appreciated 10% each year during the hot market while flatland 5%. I guess you are going to tell me you are going to live there forever and will never sell so appreciation does not matter. You may say be nice to the FCBs because they help with appreciation. The Chinese nationals are disgusting, nasty, rude and unethical I guess it is ok as long I benefit from that. Many escorts feel the someway with their clients too.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
Living in Irvine is all about investment and appreciation. Homes on a hill appreciated 10% each year during the hot market while flatland 5%. I guess you are going to tell me you are going to live there forever and will never sell so appreciation does not matter. You may say be nice to the FCBs because they help with appreciation. The Chinese nationals are disgusting, nasty, rude and unethical I guess it is ok as long I benefit from that. Many escorts feel the someway with their clients too.
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That seems like a pretty drastic and somewhat racists remark.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
GH said:
I'm not very familiar with the pricing of OH but which community in the gated OH side is comparable to SG ?  Aside from Sausalito and maybe Arcadia, I don't think there is a similar price point community between SG and gated side OH ??
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You can't really compare SG and OH price point.  SG was priced low during the recession and then prices shot up during the mini-boom.  Saratoga was selling for about mid $800K when they finished the phase.  OH has basically the same floor plan (plus a few improvements) on the non-gated side for about $100K more.
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that's what I thought to.. that's why I was curious why the few previous post were comparing them on which community/tract is better (Of course the more expensive one would be better in general).
 
GH said:
Irvinecommuter said:
GH said:
I'm not very familiar with the pricing of OH but which community in the gated OH side is comparable to SG ?  Aside from Sausalito and maybe Arcadia, I don't think there is a similar price point community between SG and gated side OH ??
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You can't really compare SG and OH price point.  SG was priced low during the recession and then prices shot up during the mini-boom.  Saratoga was selling for about mid $800K when they finished the phase.  OH has basically the same floor plan (plus a few improvements) on the non-gated side for about $100K more.
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that's what I thought to.. that's why I was curious why the few previous post were comparing them on which community/tract is better (Of course the more expensive one would be better in general).
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Some of the appreciation is already built into the higher initial costs.  It's a lot more complicated than just a straight comparison.  If you were just buying it for an investment purpose, OH is definitely going to appreciate more than Stonegate but then you have factor in that $100K difference. 

If you are buying to live there for a certain period of time, you have to factor in livability and convenience as well as higher tax bills.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
Living in Irvine is all about investment and appreciation. Homes on a hill appreciated 10% each year during the hot market while flatland 5%.
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There are some exceptions to the rule.

I think Woodbridge had good appreciation because of the flakes and centrality... University Park because of the centrality and the UniHighSchoolity.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Living in Irvine is all about investment and appreciation. Homes on a hill appreciated 10% each year during the hot market while flatland 5%.
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There are some exceptions to the rule.

I think Woodbridge had good appreciation because of the flakes and centrality... University Park because of the centrality and the UniHighSchoolity.
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I actually don't think it's the exception...I think a lot of people move into Irvine with the thought of staying for a long time.  A lot of buyers in Irvine do it for their kids and the school district, which means that most people stay around for a good long time (or until their kids graduate from HS).
 
Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Living in Irvine is all about investment and appreciation. Homes on a hill appreciated 10% each year during the hot market while flatland 5%. I guess you are going to tell me you are going to live there forever and will never sell so appreciation does not matter. You may say be nice to the FCBs because they help with appreciation. The Chinese nationals are disgusting, nasty, rude and unethical I guess it is ok as long I benefit from that. Many escorts feel the someway with their clients too.
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That seems like a pretty drastic and somewhat racists remark.
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I'm Chinese and I agree :)
 
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