The Yes on 8 guys are at it doing telemarketing

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The most baffling poster I saw at the Meats/Tustin location says "Prop 8=Less Government". I just don't understand the logic, of course because there isn't any. These people want more government, they just want one that agrees with them and imposes it on everyone else. I made sure as we passed this intersection that my four year old son heard all about how these people standing on the corner are not our friends, nor or they friends of his beloved preschool classmate who has two daddies.
 
[quote author="tmare" date=1225005052]The most baffling poster I saw at the Meats/Tustin location says "Prop 8=Less Government". I just don't understand the logic, of course because there isn't any. These people want more government, they just want one that agrees with them and imposes it on everyone else. I made sure as we passed this intersection that my four year old son heard all about how these people standing on the corner are not our friends, nor or they friends of his beloved preschool classmate who has two daddies.</blockquote>


It seems to me Prop 8 proponents are trying to swing some of the lazy vote their way by confusing people on which issue prop 8 is. If you put up enough signs saying Prop 8 =Protect Children/Less Government/World Peace you are bound to pick up a few votes your way from people who haven't bothered to research the issue. This is probably less effective on Prop 8 as both sides have really hit the airwaves on this issue.
 
The nutters I saw yesterday had signs that said "Yes on 8 = Religious Freedom." I was appalled and gave them all a thumbs down. My husband told me he was a little more vocal and colorful with his thoughts on these folks trying to impose their bible on our constitution. What really bothered me though is the signs on the medians, on public property, the property that my tax dollars pay for, so I removed the one on 17th and placed it where it belongs.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1224923728]Thanks. I read the article again and I read another one online about the same issue. I don't see where they are sending letters to businesses who haven't donated to anyone. As far as I know the letters were only sent to those who donated to No on 8. Does it say that in another article?</blockquote>


That was my take-away from Troop's posting above where it said



<blockquote>snip from the letter:



?Were you to elect not to donate comparably, it would be a clear indication that you are in opposition to traditional marriage. You would leave us no other reasonable assumption. <strong>The names of any companies?that choose not to donate?to ProtectMarriage.com?will be published.</strong></blockquote>


But now as I read it more closely, I think that might have been directed only towards people who donated to No on 8, maybe?
 
I saw a group of people who looked like the extended family of a mormon polygamy sect protesting on PCH/McArthur last night. I thought it was a joke or that maybe they were celebrating Halloween early. If my pregnant wife wasn't in the car I would have gave them the bird...out of respect for her I gave them the more courteous thumbs down along with the most disgusted face I could muster.



Why oh why has the Republican party allowed themselves to be highjacked by the intolerant self righteous a-holes?
 
I'm voting Yes on Prop 8.









Just kidding.



Is there actually on this board who isn't going to vote No?



BTW: I got one of those Yes on 8 calls to and the guy ended it with... "Vote your conscience". So... uh... what was he trying to imply?
 
[quote author="socalmd" date=1225264755] I would have gave them the bird...out of respect for her I gave them the more courteous thumbs down along with the most disgusted face I could muster... intolerant self righteous a-holes?</blockquote>


I gotta ask. Why not display the tolerance that you believe in? I am genuinely curious. Do you not believe all people are deserving of tolerance, just some? Thanks for reading.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1225265460][quote author="socalmd" date=1225264755] I would have gave them the bird...out of respect for her I gave them the more courteous thumbs down along with the most disgusted face I could muster... intolerant self righteous a-holes?</blockquote>


I gotta ask. Why not display the tolerance that you believe in? I am genuinely curious. Do you not believe all people are deserving of tolerance, just some? Thanks for reading.</blockquote>






I never said they don't have the right to protest. I just pointed out that I utilized my constitutional right to give them the thumbs down(as opposed to the preferred middle finger)
 
[quote author="socalmd" date=1225265652][quote author="SoCal78" date=1225265460][quote author="socalmd" date=1225264755] I would have gave them the bird...out of respect for her I gave them the more courteous thumbs down along with the most disgusted face I could muster... intolerant self righteous a-holes?</blockquote>


I gotta ask. Why not display the tolerance that you believe in? I am genuinely curious. Do you not believe all people are deserving of tolerance, just some? Thanks for reading.</blockquote>






I never said they don't have the right to protest. I just pointed out that I utilized my constitutional right to give them the thumbs down(as opposed to the preferred middle finger)</blockquote>


Ok, thanks. By "tolerance " I thought you meant open-mindedness or unresponsiveness. Sounds like you mean tolerant in the legal sense and not the spirit of tolerance. Sorry that I misunderstood. Thanks.
 
[quote author="SoCal78" date=1225266040][quote author="socalmd" date=1225265652][quote author="SoCal78" date=1225265460][quote author="socalmd" date=1225264755] I would have gave them the bird...out of respect for her I gave them the more courteous thumbs down along with the most disgusted face I could muster... intolerant self righteous a-holes?</blockquote>


I gotta ask. Why not display the tolerance that you believe in? I am genuinely curious. Do you not believe all people are deserving of tolerance, just some? Thanks for reading.</blockquote>






I never said they don't have the right to protest. I just pointed out that I utilized my constitutional right to give them the thumbs down(as opposed to the preferred middle finger)</blockquote>


Ok, thanks. By "tolerance " I thought you meant open-mindedness or unresponsiveness. Sounds like you mean tolerant in the legal sense and not the spirit of tolerance. Sorry that I misunderstood. Thanks.</blockquote>






I am very tolerant and open minded about their right to protest or believe whatever they want. Do I believe they are self-righteous, intolerant, homophobic, and misunderstanding of the true teachings in the bible...Yes. And after prop 8 fails I will support their freedom to move to a state like Utah where they can be amongst their own kind.
 
What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.
 
[quote author="socalmd" date=1225266905]What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.</blockquote>


Are you claiming that the main opposition to the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the Christian Right?
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1225267715][quote author="socalmd" date=1225266905]What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.</blockquote>


Are you claiming that the main opposition to the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the Christian Right?</blockquote>






No I am not claiming. I am stating as fact, the main opposition to civil rights has been Fundamentalist Christians. In the 1960s most of them were southern democrats. Now they are Republicans.



here you go



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NXG/is_1_34/ai_94160906/pg_2
 
[quote author="socalmd" date=1225268530][quote author="Nude" date=1225267715][quote author="socalmd" date=1225266905]What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.</blockquote>


Are you claiming that the main opposition to the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the Christian Right?</blockquote>






No I am not claiming. I am stating as fact, the main opposition to civil rights has been Fundamentalist Christians. In the 1960s most of them were southern democrats. Now they are Republicans.



here you go



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NXG/is_1_34/ai_94160906/pg_2</blockquote>


No offense, but you are distorting facts to fit your premise. It could just as easily be argued that Democrats were the main opposition to civil rights if all you focused on was party membership. The Civil Rights movement was started by Christians, supported by Christians, and led by Christians (see Montgomery Improvement Association & Southern Christian Leadership Conference) from the South. The fact is that racists opposed civil rights, regardless of religious (or political) affiliation, just as homophobes regardless of religious or political (or even racial) affiliation oppose equality in marriage.
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1225271091][quote author="socalmd" date=1225268530][quote author="Nude" date=1225267715][quote author="socalmd" date=1225266905]What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.</blockquote>


Are you claiming that the main opposition to the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the Christian Right?</blockquote>






No I am not claiming. I am stating as fact, the main opposition to civil rights has been Fundamentalist Christians. In the 1960s most of them were southern democrats. Now they are Republicans.



here you go



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NXG/is_1_34/ai_94160906/pg_2</blockquote>


No offense, but you are distorting facts to fit your premise. It could just as easily be argued that Democrats were the main opposition to civil rights if all you focused on was party membership. The Civil Rights movement was started by Christians, supported by Christians, and led by Christians (see Montgomery Improvement Association & Southern Christian Leadership Conference) from the South. The fact is that racists opposed civil rights, regardless of religious (or political) affiliation, just as homophobes regardless of religious or political (or even racial) affiliation oppose equality in marriage.</blockquote>




Ummm, maybe you need to go back and read my post. I said Fundamentalist/right wing Christians....not mainstream Christians.
 
[quote author="Nude" date=1225271091][quote author="socalmd" date=1225268530][quote author="Nude" date=1225267715][quote author="socalmd" date=1225266905]What really cracks me up is how these relgious right wingers think homosexuality is learned or can be 'deprogrammed'. LOL! And the mainstream scientific consensus is that homosexuality is determined at birth. So they basically want to deny the right to marry to two people who love each other and didn't make a choice regards to their sexuality. IMO this is a basic human rights issue, no different from the 1960s. And surprise!, the main opponents again to human rights is the Christian Right.</blockquote>


Are you claiming that the main opposition to the Civil Rights movement of the 60's was the Christian Right?</blockquote>






No I am not claiming. I am stating as fact, the main opposition to civil rights has been Fundamentalist Christians. In the 1960s most of them were southern democrats. Now they are Republicans.



here you go



http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0NXG/is_1_34/ai_94160906/pg_2</blockquote>


No offense, but you are distorting facts to fit your premise. It could just as easily be argued that Democrats were the main opposition to civil rights if all you focused on was party membership. The Civil Rights movement was started by Christians, supported by Christians, and led by Christians (see Montgomery Improvement Association & Southern Christian Leadership Conference) from the South. The fact is that racists opposed civil rights, regardless of religious (or political) affiliation, just as homophobes regardless of religious or political (or even racial) affiliation oppose equality in marriage.</blockquote>


FWIW, my father's family (i.e., my grandmother, grandfather, uncle, aunt, and father) were all raised in the Southern Baptist tradition circa 1930 - 1970. While some of the racism my father learned (and later unlearned, courtesy of the US Army) certainly had a geographical / cultural component, it was also taught at church. :down: It is also one of the reasons he left the church.
 
As hard as I have tried to look, there are simply no "Yes on Prop 8" signs in the Hollywood Area. Not a single one.



On a side note...I worked a side gig tonight for the guy who wrote "X-Men" and "Batman Returns". He's a gay man as were many of the party attendees.... but plenty were straight people who just happen to work for Warner Brothers. No one seemed to give a hoot about who was who...just that the drinks were free, and everyone was having a good time.



I have never seen such awesome costumes.



There were plenty of Sarah Palin's, Joe the Plumbers, and even one "pregnant" girl with a Wasilla (Alaska) tee-shirt on....she kept lifting her skirt and saying, "Want to see Russia?"



I only report the facts. :coolsmirk:
 
[quote author="Trooper" date=1225565029]There were plenty of Sarah Palin's, Joe the Plumbers, and even one "pregnant" girl with a Wasilla (Alaska) tee-shirt on....she kept lifting her skirt and saying, "Want to see Alaska?"</blockquote>
I hope you said "yes".
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1225265118]I'm voting Yes on Prop 8.









Just kidding.



Is there actually on this board who isn't going to vote No?



</blockquote>


I am voting Yes on Prop 8.
 
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