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Ahh I got suckered into posting a response to thoughtful.



endingmaestro Says:

April 17th, 2008 at 11:22 am



First of all, Thoughtful, you are retarded. Do you actually originate loans, or are you just reading some mortgage filing reports? Do you not know the difference between LTV and CLTV????? You do know that 1st and 2nd mortgages can be held by different companies. And an interest only loan DOES NOT have the same risk characteristic as a conforming (by that I think you meant P&I;payment) loan program. You seem to not grasp the concept that paying principal down helps to LOWER your LTV.



You must not have heard of Chevy Chase, Paul Financial, Or First Federal? These option arms very frequently have margins above 3.0. Mortgage brokers get paid by jacking up your margin. ?Hey come on in and get your option arm with a 3.55 margin..errr?.I mean come on in and get your FREE LOAN! NO CLOSING COST!



LarryP, I have originated many 5 and 7 year fixed LIBOR option ARMS as well. They were at a better rate than the MTA loans for a while. The fully amortized rates were usually between 6.5%-7%. The problem is most people still make the minimum payment though and will recast BEFORE the interest rate adjustment. These people cannot afford to make the full P&I;payment over a long period of time, like 6 months in a row w/o depleting their savings.
 
[quote author="skek" date=1208482314]There's clearly something psychological going on, and it is much, much more than a mere desire to debate the housing market. Oh well. I hope she gets some help.</blockquote>


Yes, it is sad really. My take is that she is so attached to her idea of perpetual double-digit appreciation and housing wealth that she stubbornly refuses to see the truth.



Last year, I read two great books on market psychology from Mark Douglas, Trading in the Zone and The Disciplined Trader. One of the concepts he goes over at length is how peoples perception of market action gets distorted the moment they take a position. Thoughtful is obviously looking for any data point, any sign at all that the market is going to do what she wants, and she interprets everything as if it is a sign the market is going to move in her favor. Since the market is obviously moving strongly against her position, the pain and fear are motivating her to seek even more denial. Mark Douglas says that markets have a way of giving participants a "painful forced awareness." She is fighting fervently against this forced awareness to the point she is spamming a blog to convince everyone that the sun is the moon. I hope she does not have a nervous breakdown when reality overwhelms the fantasy she has created.
 
It looks like the glacier has melted ever so slightly in Miami.



Had somebody call about doing a refi!! 50% loan to value, so should go through.



Also, somebody else who tried to buy and the seller didn't want to let them inspect.

The seller was not a bank, but a couple of sisters who are trying to sell. Also, they

think they can find someone else to buy for more. My clients were donw only 20%

from peak. they said go fish, and are looking at another property to buy all

cash.



And an older fella is paying all cash for a condo; they were ignoring him for weeks;

now the Seller has an atty and he's calling to get the contract signed.



Was a court this morning and the judge gave a foreclosee 100 extra days to come

up with the money. I've seen this with other judges, too. Seems like he was

giving them extra time just for showing up at the summary final judgment.
 
What am I missing? :-S Why are you all talking about Truthi in this thread? I see no posts from her. Did she post something crazy and it was removed?
 
[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1208481502]Truthiness/Thoughtful has completely lost her mind. She is actually an interesting case study in the dynamics of denial. The shrill rants are covering fear and frustration. She actually seems to believe she can talk the market higher. We reach many times the readers she does, and I doubt we have any real market impact.</blockquote>


Maybe Truthi is Connie Degroot. . .after all they both end every sentence (or post) with "it is a great time to buy."
 
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aka "messin with sasquatch".
 
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aka "messin with sasquatch".</blockquote>


That is funny. I like how you keep recommending she get help. She should.
 
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