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?New York Post article: ?MAGA bomber? Cesar Sayoc breaks down as he pleads guilty, faces life in prison

?In October 2018, I made devices that were designed to look like bombs and sent them in the US Mail,? he said softly, while reading from a prepared statement.

?I sent 16 devices to people around the country.?

?I also put pictures of the recipients with a red Xs over their faces inside the package,? the muscle-bound former stripper added.

Near the end of his statement, Sayoc?s voice choked up with emotion as his body shook and he scrunched up his face, apparently holding back tears.

?I am extremely sorry,? he said in a voice barely above a whisper.

At the time, Sayoc was living in a white van with its windows covered with pro-Trump images and messages, and others attacking the president?s critics ? including ones that showed red crosshairs over Obama and Clinton.

The dashboard was also covered with baseball caps featuring American flag motifs and Trump?s signature ?Make America Great Again? slogan.?

https://nypost.com/2019/03/21/maga-...own-as-he-pleads-guilty-faces-life-in-prison/

My comment: So run if you see someone with multiple MAGA slogans on their vehicle. Jk
 
morekaos said:
THE MEDIA?S RUSSIA ?BOMBSHELLS? LOOK EVEN WORSE NOW THAT MUELLER FOUND NO COLLUSION

Attorney General William Barr told Congress Sunday that special counsel Robert Mueller did not find collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, destroying two years of media speculation and bad reporting.

The obsession to prove collusion has dampened the media?s journalistic abilities, leading to a seemingly endless list of corrections, retractions and apologies.

In light of Mueller concluding his investigation, we?ve compiled a list of some of the worst media screwups in the history of Russia theories.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/03/25/media-russia-collusion-mueller-report-fake-news/
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That article is excellent - 16 different instances of fake news contributing to the Russian collusion hoax.  What a trip down memory lane.  Even NPR, with their supposedly higher standard of journalism, was caught red-handed reporting fake news.
 
?USA Today article: Suspect in mob boss' death was influenced by right-wing conspiracy theories, lawyer says

Anthony Comello, 24, was formally charged in New York on Monday for the killing of Frank Cali, the alleged boss of the Gambino crime family in Staten Island. He was caught by police in Brick, New Jersey, on March 16 ? three days after Cali's death.

Comello's lawyer Robert Gottlieb spoke to reporters Monday, according to NBC News, and said that his client is not guilty and that what happened was "directly related to the hate that people are bombarded with every day on the internet."

On March 18, Comello appeared in court and appeared to have slogans like ?MAGA Forever? and ?United We Stand MAGA" written on his hands.?

Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/03/26/anthony-comello-right-wing-conspiracy-theories/3275721002/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatoday-newstopstories

My comment: Another MAGA superstar?
 
Liar loan pops up here once in a while when the news cycle is favorable to trump and completes the circle jerk of MAGA posters

then remind him of all the bad forecasts he has made time and again and he slinks back into his ?bond bubble?
:) 
 
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
 
fortune11 said:
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
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Or....there never was any collusion case at all and all they got was unrelated tax and process charges.  That seems to be the real story...less all the hopeful speculation.  Just what if this really was a big witch hunt driven by pure hate?  Could you ever accept that or will you forever speculate on shoehorning narratives to fit a story you like? Maybe, just maybe, the simplest story and not some elaborate conspiracy is the truth. Nothing to see.
 
morekaos said:
fortune11 said:
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
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Or....there never was any collusion case at all and all they got was unrelated tax and process charges.  That seems to be the real story...less all the hopeful speculation.  Just what if this really was a big witch hunt driven by pure hate?  Could you ever accept that or will you forever speculate on shoehorning narratives to fit a story you like? Maybe, just maybe, the simplest story and not some elaborate conspiracy is the truth. Nothing to see.
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How about this scenario? If a cop pulls you over because your brake light is out and sees an open container alcohol. Does he suppose to look the other way? Heck no.

Don?t blame the government. Blame the person who cheated the government/US tax payers.

Again, if people told the truth. There would probably be no investigation. It would be more like 5 guys taking out the trash. (Not the brightest bunch and that?s it)

They could of simply said, yeah we talked and that?s it.
 
I don't blame the government itself, I blame partisan hacks and a complicit, greedy media for pushing a false narrative that damaged the country for no other reason than hate, denial and their own corruption.  What a colossal waste of time money and effort, and for what? I know why they did it, but he's still there.
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
fortune11 said:
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
Click to expand...

Or....there never was any collusion case at all and all they got was unrelated tax and process charges.  That seems to be the real story...less all the hopeful speculation.  Just what if this really was a big witch hunt driven by pure hate?  Could you ever accept that or will you forever speculate on shoehorning narratives to fit a story you like? Maybe, just maybe, the simplest story and not some elaborate conspiracy is the truth. Nothing to see.
Click to expand...

How about this scenario? If a cop pulls you over because your brake light is out and sees an open container alcohol. Does he suppose to look the other way? Heck no.

Don?t blame the government. Blame the person who cheated the government/US tax payers.
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i don't think anyone here really cares that much about manafort, and if he committed crimes then he should pay the fair price (i.e. what is typical for tax evasion etc.).  the point morekaos is making is that all the hoopla about manafort going down and that he was going to talk and spill all the dirt about trump that the media put in your head for months and months was all a big lie.  i'm sure it hurts to find out you've been lied to all this time.
 
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
fortune11 said:
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
Click to expand...

Or....there never was any collusion case at all and all they got was unrelated tax and process charges.  That seems to be the real story...less all the hopeful speculation.  Just what if this really was a big witch hunt driven by pure hate?  Could you ever accept that or will you forever speculate on shoehorning narratives to fit a story you like? Maybe, just maybe, the simplest story and not some elaborate conspiracy is the truth. Nothing to see.
Click to expand...

How about this scenario? If a cop pulls you over because your brake light is out and sees an open container alcohol. Does he suppose to look the other way? Heck no.

Don?t blame the government. Blame the person who cheated the government/US tax payers.

Again, if people told the truth. There would probably be no investigation. It would be more like 5 guys taking out the trash. (Not the brightest bunch and that?s it)

They could of simply said, yeah we talked and that?s it.
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Also the Barr letter doesn?t  really clear Trump. It defines crimes to exclude what Trump did.

if we get to September 2020 and the Mueller Report has never seen the light of day, people are going to notice, and nobody but extreme GOP partisans are going to vote for Trump on the basis of "no collusion".

This is something the hyper partisans on this forum seem to miss

Separate emotion from analysis ? otherwise this is how you lose every prediction on this forum for the last two years
 
Kings said:
eyephone said:
morekaos said:
fortune11 said:
On a more serious note ?-

What I?m most curious about is there was a cooperation agreement with Manafort that later collapsed.

So were there charges that at one point Mueller thought he could bring that Manafort backing out made impossible?
Click to expand...

Or....there never was any collusion case at all and all they got was unrelated tax and process charges.  That seems to be the real story...less all the hopeful speculation.  Just what if this really was a big witch hunt driven by pure hate?  Could you ever accept that or will you forever speculate on shoehorning narratives to fit a story you like? Maybe, just maybe, the simplest story and not some elaborate conspiracy is the truth. Nothing to see.
Click to expand...

How about this scenario? If a cop pulls you over because your brake light is out and sees an open container alcohol. Does he suppose to look the other way? Heck no.

Don?t blame the government. Blame the person who cheated the government/US tax payers.
Click to expand...

i don't think anyone here really cares that much about manafort, and if he committed crimes then he should pay the fair price (i.e. what is typical for tax evasion etc.).  the point morekaos is making is that all the hoopla about manafort going down and that he was going to talk and spill all the dirt about trump that the media put in your head for months and months was all a big lie.  i'm sure it hurts to find out you've been lied to all this time.
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I?m not hurt. Again, if you lie to law enforcement then you face the consequences. Also, do you believe that law enforcement have the right to charge other crimes other than the original suspected one? Just to let you know there is case law that gives the cops the right.

Your always making excuses and can?t answer the question what triggered the investigation. (Lies, too much to drink talker, more lies, and the firing of Comey) All of this could of been prevented.

Btw-Let me know when you buy a suite in Russia. (I never had a deal with Russia. Now that was a lie. Not part of the investigation, but it came out due to the investigation.)
 
Its not my credibility thats in question. Its the self righteous media, Democrat hacks, celebrity fools and partisan talking heads.  No one listens to little old me.
 
morekaos said:
Its not my credibility thats in question. Its the self righteous media, Democrat hacks, celebrity fools and partisan talking heads.  No one listens to little old me.
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Let?s face it. News flash. Not that many people like you on TI. Take a hike!

Your racist comments are horrible. They really are.
 
morekaos said:
More than you think.
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Again. You are an opportunist. You don?t care about other Republicans that are from the South. (Pan handle, Bama, Midwest) You paint a picture that Gop supporters don?t receive government assistance. News Flash. They do!

 
Name one prediction in the last 2 years that these MAGA people , especially in purple font , have made which Came true

They always get hyper excited at everything like teenagers and then the post volume quietly dies down as reality hits them smack in the face.  The North Korea discussion on this forum is an important case in point

Let?s see how all these hyper excited purple and other MAGA circle jerk posts hold up in 2-3 months time . I will take a guess ...
 
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