irvinehomeowner
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SoCal said:
And my mind plays that "whah whah whah" sound you hear at game shows when you lose.
Tesla Model 3
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And my mind plays that "whah whah whah" sound you hear at game shows when you lose.
Yeah good call. I'm probably looking at picking up one at year-end as my model 3 reservation delivery estimate is Nov'17 - Mar'18.
I'm really liking the new 7 seat layout too, but I really wish Tesla would deliver one model 3 per store (at least in California) so you can compare.
Also looking at a Volvo XC90 T8 Plug-in as an alternative for now. The new volvos are ridiculously plush and quiet.
Let's see if Elon can hold together Humpty Dumpty...
Tesla cites performance reviews as it fires SolarCity employees, though workers say reviews never took place
Mass firings at Tesla included SolarCity offices across the U.S.
Ex-SolarCity employees said planned performance reviews never happened, but Tesla cited performance problems as reasons for their dismissals.
The company was already in the midst of laying off 205 employees from SolarCity's Roseville, California, office.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/25/tesla-firings-spread-across-solarcity-employees-blindsided.html
Some would argue that eliminating the tax credit might help Tesla stave off competition:
http://www.barrons.com/articles/actually-eliminating-the-ev-credit-could-help-tesla-1509737765
People that buy the nissans don't buy Tesla's.. and visa versa. However, the other companies make money off the their other gas products. Didn't China take away a tax benefit for electric cars for a month or so? What happened? sales went to zero. ZERO!
Yes and No. Yes meaning I'd possibly look around at other vehicle offerings around the same price range (~$49k) pre-incentives ($10,450 in CA), which I really haven't done too in-depth. No meaning I did not factor in receiving the tax credit in order to comfortable afford the car. It's a nice to have, not a need to have.
The most recent article notes that the $7500 ev incentive is back in the Tax bill along with MID:
http://m.startribune.com/the-latest-senate-bill-retains-mortgage-interest-deduction/456413183/
"The South Dakota Republican said the measure also preserves existing clean energy tax incentives such as for electricity production from wind. It preserves a tax credit for electric cars as well."
"The emerging Senate tax overhaul measure wouldn't touch the mortgage interest deduction, as a concession to the powerful real estate lobby."
The Tesla 3 costs 30K...I am not sure how that is the Hollywood crowd. I would much more prefer credits go to the buyers of the cars rather than oil companies.
And my mind plays that "whah whah whah" sound you hear at game shows when you lose.
If you're going to get an X, start talking to a OA, then wait for the end of quarter where you can usually squeeze some kind of discount.
If had to do it over again, I'd wait for end of quarter and pick up a CPO. The fit and finish on these are bad enough that you can't tell the difference between new and used :-\
If had to do it over again, I'd wait for end of quarter and pick up a CPO. The fit and finish on these are bad enough that you can't tell the difference between new and used :-\
id_rather_be_racing
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Maserson said:
Yeah good call. I'm probably looking at picking up one at year-end as my model 3 reservation delivery estimate is Nov'17 - Mar'18.
I'm really liking the new 7 seat layout too, but I really wish Tesla would deliver one model 3 per store (at least in California) so you can compare.
Also looking at a Volvo XC90 T8 Plug-in as an alternative for now. The new volvos are ridiculously plush and quiet.
morekaos
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morekaos said:
Let's see if Elon can hold together Humpty Dumpty...
Tesla cites performance reviews as it fires SolarCity employees, though workers say reviews never took place
Mass firings at Tesla included SolarCity offices across the U.S.
Ex-SolarCity employees said planned performance reviews never happened, but Tesla cited performance problems as reasons for their dismissals.
The company was already in the midst of laying off 205 employees from SolarCity's Roseville, California, office.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/25/tesla-firings-spread-across-solarcity-employees-blindsided.html
morekaos
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Chickens roosting.
Tesla shares drop 6% as Wall Street analysts have had enough of Musk's funky forecasts
Tesla shares dropped Thursday, and Wall Street expressed concern over the carmaker's production guidance.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/tesla-analysts-have-had-enough-of-musks-funky-forecasts.html]Readmore:https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/tesla-analysts-have-had-enough-of-musks-funky-forecasts.html[/url]
Tesla shares drop 6% as Wall Street analysts have had enough of Musk's funky forecasts
Tesla shares dropped Thursday, and Wall Street expressed concern over the carmaker's production guidance.
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/tesla-analysts-have-had-enough-of-musks-funky-forecasts.html]Readmore:https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/02/tesla-analysts-have-had-enough-of-musks-funky-forecasts.html[/url]
morekaos
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Figured this would happen...rug is getting pulled out from under....
Tesla share crash amid Republican bid to kill off electric car tax break
Didn't help that the automaker's financial results also sucked
Tesla's share price took a dive Thursday morning as Republicans in Congress revealed they were planning to kill off a US federal tax credit for electric vehicles.
The proposed House tax bill calls for an immediate repeal of the $7,500-per-vehicle credit: something that would have an immediate knock-on impact for Tesla given that it only produces electric cars.
Economists believe that the tax credit is a key driver for electric car sales, and cite the example of when the state of Georgia cut its $5,000 tax credit and saw sales of electric cars slump from 1,400 a month to just 100 a month in response.
As an indication of how the $7,500 helps Tesla sell more of its vehicles, it even incorporates the figure into its pricing on its website, noting that the total vehicle cost is reduced thanks to the break ? although you would still pay full price for the car and then would need to claim the credit back on your tax forms.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/02/tesla_share_price_drop_tax_break/
Tesla share crash amid Republican bid to kill off electric car tax break
Didn't help that the automaker's financial results also sucked
Tesla's share price took a dive Thursday morning as Republicans in Congress revealed they were planning to kill off a US federal tax credit for electric vehicles.
The proposed House tax bill calls for an immediate repeal of the $7,500-per-vehicle credit: something that would have an immediate knock-on impact for Tesla given that it only produces electric cars.
Economists believe that the tax credit is a key driver for electric car sales, and cite the example of when the state of Georgia cut its $5,000 tax credit and saw sales of electric cars slump from 1,400 a month to just 100 a month in response.
As an indication of how the $7,500 helps Tesla sell more of its vehicles, it even incorporates the figure into its pricing on its website, noting that the total vehicle cost is reduced thanks to the break ? although you would still pay full price for the car and then would need to claim the credit back on your tax forms.
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/11/02/tesla_share_price_drop_tax_break/
Hugo Township
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The carpool lane should be a HOT (high occupancy + toll lane) anyways. Would be good to trade money for time when things are tight.
id_rather_be_racing
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I only got to drive the T5 AWD, so i can't really say. I don't think I've seen a T8 Hybrid demo car in any volvo dealership i've been to.
Where did you see the review regarding the brakes? I haven't come across anything mentioning the brakes in the articles/threads I've read.
I'm genuinely hoping Tesla will bring a Model 3 to the LA Auto Show. It would be an easy way for both reservation-holders and on-the-fence buyers to get a feel for the interior of the car. It'll help whittle down the pool of buyers who could tolerate not having a traditional dash. I've owned cars where the dash info was center mounted (scion/toyota), so it really doesn't bother me at all. Curious what others feel about it.
I only wish it had a HUD displaying the real important info onto the front windshield. I'm sure the aftermarket will pick this up though.
Where did you see the review regarding the brakes? I haven't come across anything mentioning the brakes in the articles/threads I've read.
I'm genuinely hoping Tesla will bring a Model 3 to the LA Auto Show. It would be an easy way for both reservation-holders and on-the-fence buyers to get a feel for the interior of the car. It'll help whittle down the pool of buyers who could tolerate not having a traditional dash. I've owned cars where the dash info was center mounted (scion/toyota), so it really doesn't bother me at all. Curious what others feel about it.
I only wish it had a HUD displaying the real important info onto the front windshield. I'm sure the aftermarket will pick this up though.
irvineboy said:
iacrenter
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eyephone said:
Some would argue that eliminating the tax credit might help Tesla stave off competition:
http://www.barrons.com/articles/actually-eliminating-the-ev-credit-could-help-tesla-1509737765
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jmoney74
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iacrenter said:
People that buy the nissans don't buy Tesla's.. and visa versa. However, the other companies make money off the their other gas products. Didn't China take away a tax benefit for electric cars for a month or so? What happened? sales went to zero. ZERO!
Hugo Township
Active member
Eh, I would consider buying a Tesla 3 (I'm a reservation holder from day 1) or a Nissan. Tax credit or not.
id_rather_be_racing
Active member
eyephone said:
Yes and No. Yes meaning I'd possibly look around at other vehicle offerings around the same price range (~$49k) pre-incentives ($10,450 in CA), which I really haven't done too in-depth. No meaning I did not factor in receiving the tax credit in order to comfortable afford the car. It's a nice to have, not a need to have.
The most recent article notes that the $7500 ev incentive is back in the Tax bill along with MID:
http://m.startribune.com/the-latest-senate-bill-retains-mortgage-interest-deduction/456413183/
"The South Dakota Republican said the measure also preserves existing clean energy tax incentives such as for electricity production from wind. It preserves a tax credit for electric cars as well."
"The emerging Senate tax overhaul measure wouldn't touch the mortgage interest deduction, as a concession to the powerful real estate lobby."
morekaos
Well-known member
Tesla's rich and subsidized buyers about to get smacked by Trump tax reform
The Daily Caller notes that the subsidies of these green machines pretty well drive the sales, citing a Wall Street Journal report that notes that when Hong Kong ended Tesla subsidies and tax breaks, nobody wanted to buy these overpriced things.
If that isn't a subsidy crying out for a tax reform, what is? Let's hope the GOP makes a selling point of this disgusting corporate welfare to virtue-signal and gets its tax bill done, passed, and out the door. Hollywood's elites don't need more free stuff.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/teslas_rich_and_subsidized_buyers_about_to_get_smacked_by_trump_tax_reform.html#ixzz4yWR2069j
The Daily Caller notes that the subsidies of these green machines pretty well drive the sales, citing a Wall Street Journal report that notes that when Hong Kong ended Tesla subsidies and tax breaks, nobody wanted to buy these overpriced things.
If that isn't a subsidy crying out for a tax reform, what is? Let's hope the GOP makes a selling point of this disgusting corporate welfare to virtue-signal and gets its tax bill done, passed, and out the door. Hollywood's elites don't need more free stuff.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/11/teslas_rich_and_subsidized_buyers_about_to_get_smacked_by_trump_tax_reform.html#ixzz4yWR2069j
Irvinecommuter
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morekaos said:
The Tesla 3 costs 30K...I am not sure how that is the Hollywood crowd. I would much more prefer credits go to the buyers of the cars rather than oil companies.