Standard Pacific new homes coming to Tustin
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ah the wonderfully stupid marketing at lyon homes. they printed that and never looked back even though it can hurt sales. i was given a massive packet that had each bond, how much i had to pay, details on it, etc. i put those together and it was close to $4500 fixed amount and 1.2% for augusta 3
in a few months, we should be able to pull up the tax statements online for augusta houses.
dont trust me on this - if you are interested in augusta and the hold up is the MR amount, ask them for a copy of all the bonds and do the math. its really that simple.
definitely can't plant fruit trees. i have that scanned and saved...actually probably have everything scanned including bonds. will try to see if i can dig up the details
i bet that if Stan Pac or New Home Company or whatever builder didnt get picked put a las ventanas type product (4bed,3bath,driveway, 2100 sq ft) at the same price point as Augusta 1's 670K, they would sell like hotcakes. if they put the right products aat the right price everything sells. all the homes that you would never live next to at whatever price because they back to a freeway or major street, they all sell. if they build it (correctly), they will come. people will get over the land toxicity.
(sorry... couldn't resist channeling AZDave)
would really appreciate if you can post the scan of "can't plant fruit trees" clause!
the augusta folks are really pretty up front and honest. this was one of my first questions and they answered that i couldnt plant fruit trees. the scan of the disclosure attached. it technically isnt prohibited but the way i read that, it might as well be
irvinehomeowner
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.8 x $760k = $6080... + $1200 (rkp's additional .15%) = $7280... seems significantly higher than the $4210 at Maricopa.
And it goes up? And doesn't expire? What is that... the can't plant fruit trees tax?
And if the Astoria buyers (the ancestor of Augusta) are paying $8k in MRs after paying much higher prices than Augusta for similar floorplans... I would be irritated.
And it goes up? And doesn't expire? What is that... the can't plant fruit trees tax?
And if the Astoria buyers (the ancestor of Augusta) are paying $8k in MRs after paying much higher prices than Augusta for similar floorplans... I would be irritated.
qwerty said:
ah the wonderfully stupid marketing at lyon homes. they printed that and never looked back even though it can hurt sales. i was given a massive packet that had each bond, how much i had to pay, details on it, etc. i put those together and it was close to $4500 fixed amount and 1.2% for augusta 3
in a few months, we should be able to pull up the tax statements online for augusta houses.
irvinehomeowner said:
dont trust me on this - if you are interested in augusta and the hold up is the MR amount, ask them for a copy of all the bonds and do the math. its really that simple.
definitely can't plant fruit trees. i have that scanned and saved...actually probably have everything scanned including bonds. will try to see if i can dig up the details
irvinehomeowner
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The scan of the no fruit trees would be awesome on here.
I agree that the sales sheets are probably incorrect so we're probably looking at the $6k you mentioned that could go up... still would rather have the fixed price of $4210 at Maricopa that will expire eventually.
If you can get over the land toxicity thing... $670k for a ~2600sft house (Plan 1) is pretty good considering you're a as close to Irvine as you can get... but it looks like even $1000/month savings wasn't enough for RKP which is why I'm not convinced Tustin Legacy is the next Tustin Ranch. It looks like they are selling well... maybe if StanPac builds a proper 3CWG with a driveway... I'll look into it and just not put that lemon tree in the backyard.
I agree that the sales sheets are probably incorrect so we're probably looking at the $6k you mentioned that could go up... still would rather have the fixed price of $4210 at Maricopa that will expire eventually.
If you can get over the land toxicity thing... $670k for a ~2600sft house (Plan 1) is pretty good considering you're a as close to Irvine as you can get... but it looks like even $1000/month savings wasn't enough for RKP which is why I'm not convinced Tustin Legacy is the next Tustin Ranch. It looks like they are selling well... maybe if StanPac builds a proper 3CWG with a driveway... I'll look into it and just not put that lemon tree in the backyard.
irvinehomeowner
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@rkp:
Your spreadsheet says the Augusta Plan 3 is a 4br+loft... did they add a loft option? I don't see that on the Lyon homes website... only 5brs.
It would be nice if Bedroom 5 or 3 were a loft.
Your spreadsheet says the Augusta Plan 3 is a 4br+loft... did they add a loft option? I don't see that on the Lyon homes website... only 5brs.
It would be nice if Bedroom 5 or 3 were a loft.
qwerty
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Here is some clarity on Augusta plan 3 mello Roos. The mello Roos is in fact 4,500. There is another potential tax of 2000 that may or may not kick in for the other schools. However they advertise the tax rate including the 2000 so people are aware that it may kick in. They said it may be another 5 years before it kicked in since that is when they would start building the other schools since the homes need to be built first.
irvinehomeowner
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Ahh... so 6500 + 1200 = $7700... close to $8000.
I find this delayed MR thing ridiculous. The people who have all moved in and paid their MRs don't get the elem they paid for... and now future owners are going to have to pay extra for schools although they don't know if they will get built. Is this sort of taxation illegal?
At least TIC isn't that confusing.
I find this delayed MR thing ridiculous. The people who have all moved in and paid their MRs don't get the elem they paid for... and now future owners are going to have to pay extra for schools although they don't know if they will get built. Is this sort of taxation illegal?
At least TIC isn't that confusing.
qwerty
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irvinehomeowner said:
i bet that if Stan Pac or New Home Company or whatever builder didnt get picked put a las ventanas type product (4bed,3bath,driveway, 2100 sq ft) at the same price point as Augusta 1's 670K, they would sell like hotcakes. if they put the right products aat the right price everything sells. all the homes that you would never live next to at whatever price because they back to a freeway or major street, they all sell. if they build it (correctly), they will come. people will get over the land toxicity.
irvinehomeowner
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But what about the children?qwerty said:
(sorry... couldn't resist channeling AZDave)
ahhh azdave...one of the most painful memories of IHB...
back to topic...they are still wrong qwerty- seriously, the two sales ladies are very nice but really have no clue. they are just BS'ing and saying anything. i read through all the packets and there is NOTHING about a second MR coming in 5 years or what ever. and from my understanding, bonds can be added any where but need majority vote by the homeowners. my boss lives in sonoma valley and the local school wanted to raise a ton of money and got the locals to vote on a bond. i dont think they can just force it down your throats once you have purchased the house
ask them for something in writing that indicates the 5 year delayed MR...
back to topic...they are still wrong qwerty- seriously, the two sales ladies are very nice but really have no clue. they are just BS'ing and saying anything. i read through all the packets and there is NOTHING about a second MR coming in 5 years or what ever. and from my understanding, bonds can be added any where but need majority vote by the homeowners. my boss lives in sonoma valley and the local school wanted to raise a ton of money and got the locals to vote on a bond. i dont think they can just force it down your throats once you have purchased the house
ask them for something in writing that indicates the 5 year delayed MR...
qwerty
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Yeah they may not realize that u have to vote on the bonds once the owners are in there.
Thanks for the clarification RKP. This may just sway us to Augusta.
Now I'm starting to think if Test is one of those two sales ladies. Test was defending what we thought was the 7-8k mello Roos.
Thanks for the clarification RKP. This may just sway us to Augusta.
Now I'm starting to think if Test is one of those two sales ladies. Test was defending what we thought was the 7-8k mello Roos.
The Motor Court Company
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rkp said:
would really appreciate if you can post the scan of "can't plant fruit trees" clause!
The Motor Court Company said:
the augusta folks are really pretty up front and honest. this was one of my first questions and they answered that i couldnt plant fruit trees. the scan of the disclosure attached. it technically isnt prohibited but the way i read that, it might as well be
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irvinehomeowner
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Yeah... that's the line that freaked us out. Maybe we are overreacting but anything that tells you to seek medical attention if you come into contact with something that is in your own backyard... danger Will Robinson, danger!!!