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lovingit said:
Originally, I thought they were zoned to Beckman High. Tustin High api is mid 700s. Veeh and Currie are around there also. Not the Hicks, Orchard Hills and Beckman schools I thought.
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Really? Where have you been?

If that's the case, there wouldn't be tons of discussions.
 
eyephone said:
lovingit said:
Originally, I thought they were zoned to Beckman High. Tustin High api is mid 700s. Veeh and Currie are around there also. Not the Hicks, Orchard Hills and Beckman schools I thought.
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Really? Where have you been?

If that's the case, there wouldn't be tons of discussions.
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and they probably would not be as cheap. and since you are not up to speed on the school thing, a new elementary is scheduled to open in the fall of 2016 that will be the home school for all of tustin legacy.
 
qwerty said:
eyephone said:
lovingit said:
Originally, I thought they were zoned to Beckman High. Tustin High api is mid 700s. Veeh and Currie are around there also. Not the Hicks, Orchard Hills and Beckman schools I thought.
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Really? Where have you been?

If that's the case, there wouldn't be tons of discussions.
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and they probably would not be as cheap. and since you are not up to speed on the school thing, a new elementary is scheduled to open in the fall of 2016 that will be the home school for all of tustin legacy.
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I know its eventual but not sure if that date is in concrete pr they woukd have advertised it.
 
eyephone said:
lovingit said:
Originally, I thought they were zoned to Beckman High. Tustin High api is mid 700s. Veeh and Currie are around there also. Not the Hicks, Orchard Hills and Beckman schools I thought.
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Really? Where have you been?

If that's the case, there wouldn't be tons of discussions.
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Apparently jumping to the last page of the thread.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
The school zoning is very bad.  I wonder if they are prepared to open a new high school in the area.
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They are. Some STEM 6-12 school I think. But that's probably at least 5+ years out. Not great for your $1.4m 2015 home.
 
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
 
OC troll said:
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
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I have been making this argument from day 1. People will start becoming believers when the elementary opens in 2106. The sports park opening in 2016 should be pretty nice as well.

How are schools measured now? Are APi scores still used? I don't think tusd switched to common core so assuming they still use API scores? 
 
qwerty said:
OC troll said:
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
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I have been making this argument from day 1. People will start becoming believers when the elementary opens in 2106. The sports park opening in 2016 should be pretty nice as well.

How are schools measured now? Are APi scores still used? I don't think tusd switched to common core so assuming they still use API scores?
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Problem with USD is all about perception.  If people think your USD is good, the reputation will stay.  Beckham is great school but it's not a coincidence that peopel were fighting to getting into the IUSD part of Orchard Hills.

I haven't looked it up but I am pretty sure TUSD is using common core...it's a state standard issue.
 
OC troll said:
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
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I don't disagree in theory.  But there's only 100 (?) $1.3M+ homes and even if you include all the $1M+ homes in Greenwood, it's only a couple hundred.  Of those, who knows how many will be bought by FCB investors that will either leave the home empty or rent it out. So you really don't have the mass to "flood the school system". Eventually, it may become Beckman/Hicks/Pioneer/OH 5-8 but I don't think that time is close.  So the question becomes, do you roll the dice, buy now at "value" prices and hope that in 5-10 years, it's awesome?  And in the meanwhile, if you have middle school/HS aged kids, you have to either send them to Tustin High or fight your way into Beckman with all these new Groves residents' kids.
 
bones said:
OC troll said:
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
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I don't disagree in theory.  But there's only 100 (?) $1.3M+ homes and even if you include all the $1M+ homes in Greenwood, it's only a couple hundred.  Of those, who knows how many will be bought by FCB investors that will either leave the home empty or rent it out.  Eventually, it may become Beckman/Hicks/Pioneer/OH 5-8 but I don't think that time is close.  So the question becomes, do you roll the dice, buy now at "value" prices and hope that in 5-10 years, it's awesome?  And in the meanwhile, if you have middle school/HS aged kids, you have to either send them to Tustin High or fight your way into Beckman with all these new Groves residents' kids.
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The other problem with a district like TUSD and SVUSD is that you can have a few good schools but the district as a whole will not be "great".  Thus, unless you have a Oxford Academy or Whitney High, it is hard to sell TUSD over IUSD.
 
@ Irvinecommuter - I don't think TUSD will ever trump IUSD, but I do feel like its reputation will significantly improve. Heres another factor I forgot to mention, I have noticed alot of the apartments on Redhill/Tustin Ave have revamped and increased rent due to rising demand. This has started to change the demographics that feed into the Currie, Veeh, & Tustin High. Just the other day, I actually saw a white guy jogging on redhill and walnut ave and doing push up on the side walk, GENTRIFICATION! LOL :)
 
Irvinecommuter said:
bones said:
OC troll said:
I get a feeling in the long run Tustin is going to be a good buy and the schools will improve. So far you get more for your money, but thats because of obvious reasons, however, with the influx of money, comes (assuming) and influx of higher educated residents (paying $1.3M+) with more resources and and greater ambitions which (again this is just my theory) will trickle down to the kids that will flood the tustin school system. This should increase the values of the surrounding homes in Tustin (as the schools transform and become more like the beckman, peters canyon, hicks canyon, pioneer middle, OH middle).
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I don't disagree in theory.  But there's only 100 (?) $1.3M+ homes and even if you include all the $1M+ homes in Greenwood, it's only a couple hundred.  Of those, who knows how many will be bought by FCB investors that will either leave the home empty or rent it out.  Eventually, it may become Beckman/Hicks/Pioneer/OH 5-8 but I don't think that time is close.  So the question becomes, do you roll the dice, buy now at "value" prices and hope that in 5-10 years, it's awesome?  And in the meanwhile, if you have middle school/HS aged kids, you have to either send them to Tustin High or fight your way into Beckman with all these new Groves residents' kids.
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The other problem with a district like TUSD and SVUSD is that you can have a few good schools but the district as a whole will not be "great".  Thus, unless you have a Oxford Academy or Whitney High, it is hard to sell TUSD over IUSD.
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Yup - think long term when you are about to sell.
So on Redfin there's a feature that gives the assigned school ratings. The potential buyer might be turned off, yo.  :o
 
OC troll said:
@ Irvinecommuter - I don't think TUSD will ever trump IUSD, but I do feel like its reputation will significantly improve. Heres another factor I forgot to mention, I have noticed alot of the apartments on Redhill/Tustin Ave have revamped and increased rent due to rising demand. This has started to change the demographics that feed into the Currie, Veeh, & Tustin High. Just the other day, I actually saw a white guy jogging on redhill and walnut ave and doing push up on the side walk, GENTRIFICATION! LOL :)
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Beckman HS is a gem. The rest in TUSD is trash. (Just kidding)
 
bones said:
So the question becomes, do you roll the dice, buy now at "value" prices and hope that in 5-10 years, it's awesome?  And in the meanwhile, if you have middle school/HS aged kids, you have to either send them to Tustin High or fight your way into Beckman with all these new Groves residents' kids.
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I agree, we bought in 2102 because we were having a kid and wanted more space, the price was great, the floor plan was great and the location for us was great (freeway access for commute, district, marketplace etc). Schools were not an issue for us, and as it turns out, the elementary school is supposed to open in 2016, which im guessing should be pretty good for the reasons OCtroll mentioned, so that buys me another 6 years of school + 3 years of before she even goes to Kinder, so middle school for me isnt an issue for another 9 years. And if the magnet 6-12 school sucks then ill just do private school. No sweat off my back.
 
qwerty said:
bones said:
So the question becomes, do you roll the dice, buy now at "value" prices and hope that in 5-10 years, it's awesome?  And in the meanwhile, if you have middle school/HS aged kids, you have to either send them to Tustin High or fight your way into Beckman with all these new Groves residents' kids.
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I agree, we bought in 2102 because we were having a kid and wanted more space, the price was great, the floor plan was great and the location for us was great (freeway access for commute, district, marketplace etc). Schools were not an issue for us, and as it turns out, the elementary school is supposed to open in 2016, which im guessing should be pretty good for the reasons OCtroll mentioned, so that buys me another 6 years of school + 3 years of before she even goes to Kinder, so middle school for me isnt an issue for another 9 years. And if the magnet 6-12 school sucks then ill just do private school. No sweat off my back.
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bc you're a 1%-er.  And let's be honest, you'll be long gone to SD by the time 9 years rolls around....
 
bones said:
And let's be honest, you'll be long gone to SD by the time 9 years rolls around....
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yeah your probably right :-)

i think the earliest is 5 years but in 9 years nothing but beaches and tacos!
 
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