San Mateo 3 or San Remo 1?

[irvinehomeowner]

Generally... I do believe Aliso Viejo is cooler than Irvine... so not sure about that Northwood anomaly.

Like on today's weather forecast... Irvine might hit a high of 91... but Aliso will only get to 77.

It's been pretty hot lately... I wonder how the weather is in John's Creek.

 

[usctrojancpa]

Generally... I do believe Aliso Viejo is cooler than Irvine... so not sure about that Northwood anomaly.

Like on today's weather forecast... Irvine might hit a high of 91... but Aliso will only get to 77.

It's been pretty hot lately... I wonder how the weather is in John's Creek.

Aliso south of the 73 is cooler than Irvine and Aliso north of the 73.

 

[socal78]

just look at these air quality indexes... theyre like just borderline "breathable"... its sad i know http://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Orange-County/Irvine.htmlhttp://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Los-Angeles-County/Los-Angeles.html

haha looking at the numbers, ull see what i mean by irvine has superior air quality to los angeles... its ONE full point above los angeles at 2.2 (out of a 0-10 scale, 0 being barely breathable) HAHHAA oh the premium one has to pay for that ONE full point of better air...

Thanks for sharing those links.  I hadn't seen that site before. 

Wow! Our air is a lot less polluted here in Foothill Ranch than in Irvine according to that site's carbon monoxide rating. Only 30% of the stations around the country  register higher (i.e. more polluted) than Irvine.  :-\ Here it's 80%. Good to know. Yeah, thanks for the link. I'd seen air quality indices on other sites (city-data.com? I don't remember) but not laid out quite like that. In Irvine's defense, though, it doesn't seem very accurate to give one rating for the entire city, which is 20 minutes in either direction and varies in topography. I almost wrote "traffic congestion" then hit backspace. It used to vary in congestion but not so much anymore. Maybe that's why the carbon monoxide rating is so poor.

 

[qwerty]

Generally... I do believe Aliso Viejo is cooler than Irvine... so not sure about that Northwood anomaly.

Like on today's weather forecast... Irvine might hit a high of 91... but Aliso will only get to 77.

It's been pretty hot lately... I wonder how the weather is in John's Creek.

Johns Creek was like #18 on the list of americas wealthiest cities that i saw on cnbc or cnnmoney

 

[changm55]

just look at these air quality indexes... theyre like just borderline "breathable"... its sad i know http://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Orange-County/Irvine.htmlhttp://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Los-Angeles-County/Los-Angeles.html

haha looking at the numbers, ull see what i mean by irvine has superior air quality to los angeles... its ONE full point above los angeles at 2.2 (out of a 0-10 scale, 0 being barely breathable) HAHHAA oh the premium one has to pay for that ONE full point of better air...

Thanks for sharing those links.  I hadn't seen that site before. 

Wow! Our air is a lot less polluted here in Foothill Ranch than in Irvine according to that site's carbon monoxide rating. Only 30% of the stations around the country  register higher (i.e. more polluted) than Irvine.  :-\ Here it's 80%. Good to know. Yeah, thanks for the link. I'd seen air quality indices on other sites (city-data.com? I don't remember) but not laid out quite like that. In Irvine's defense, though, it doesn't seem very accurate to give one rating for the entire city, which is 20 minutes in either direction and varies in topography. I almost wrote "traffic congestion" then hit backspace. It used to vary in congestion but not so much anymore. Maybe that's why the carbon monoxide rating is so poor.

gotta look at the data with a grain of salt... its an average of an average... takes the entire cities average pollution level and then averages it again across daily fluctuations throughout the year...

there was a website that showed the data on how many purple haze days irvine had and i remember it being 2-3 days each year (im also assuming this is when the santa ana winds occur where inland wind blows out to the coast, whereas normally coastal wind blows inland)... on the days the santa ana winds are active is when the laguna altura wok will be a VERY big problem...

all i know is irvine gets most of its air movement from that travels up newport bay (a little from the 133 canyon via laguna beach n a little from mission viejo... but honestly these are nominal compared to the air we get from newport), so if they have bad air, we have worse... then our air travels to riverside, so if our air sucks, riversides sucks even more... im just surprised ppl that complain laguna altura is a wok doesnt realize that irvine itself is a huge wok... ppl that really give a damn about air quality really shouldnt be shopping in irvine or california in general (CA air sucks because bad air from china floats here)... they should really re-consider irvine in general...

anybody want to start a business bottling air like that lorax movie? lol...

 

[jamboreedude]

just look at these air quality indexes... theyre like just borderline "breathable"... its sad i know http://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Orange-County/Irvine.htmlhttp://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Los-Angeles-County/Los-Angeles.html

haha looking at the numbers, ull see what i mean by irvine has superior air quality to los angeles... its ONE full point above los angeles at 2.2 (out of a 0-10 scale, 0 being barely breathable) HAHHAA oh the premium one has to pay for that ONE full point of better air...

Thanks for sharing those links.  I hadn't seen that site before. 

Wow! Our air is a lot less polluted here in Foothill Ranch than in Irvine according to that site's carbon monoxide rating. Only 30% of the stations around the country  register higher (i.e. more polluted) than Irvine.  :-\ Here it's 80%. Good to know. Yeah, thanks for the link. I'd seen air quality indices on other sites (city-data.com? I don't remember) but not laid out quite like that. In Irvine's defense, though, it doesn't seem very accurate to give one rating for the entire city, which is 20 minutes in either direction and varies in topography. I almost wrote "traffic congestion" then hit backspace. It used to vary in congestion but not so much anymore. Maybe that's why the carbon monoxide rating is so poor.

gotta look at the data with a grain of salt... its an average of an average... takes the entire cities average pollution level and then averages it again across daily fluctuations throughout the year...

there was a website that showed the data on how many purple haze days irvine had and i remember it being 2-3 days each year (im also assuming this is when the santa ana winds occur where inland wind blows out to the coast, whereas normally coastal wind blows inland)... on the days the santa ana winds are active is when the laguna altura wok will be a VERY big problem...

all i know is irvine gets most of its air movement from that travels up newport bay (a little from the 133 canyon via laguna beach n a little from mission viejo... but honestly these are nominal compared to the air we get from newport), so if they have bad air, we have worse... then our air travels to riverside, so if our air sucks, riversides sucks even more... im just surprised ppl that complain laguna altura is a wok doesnt realize that irvine itself is a huge wok... ppl that really give a damn about air quality really shouldnt be shopping in irvine or california in general (CA air sucks because bad air from china floats here)... they should really re-consider irvine in general...

anybody want to start a business bottling air like that lorax movie? lol...

"The Motor Court Company", what have you got to say about this counter argument regarding possible air pollution at Laguna Altura? Maybe you should consider relocating out of California for the sake of your family's health.

 

[The Motor Court Company]

you can read my mind !? how do you know that I am planning to move to Johns Creek?

just look at these air quality indexes... theyre like just borderline "breathable"... its sad i know http://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Orange-County/Irvine.htmlhttp://www.homefacts.com/airquality/California/Los-Angeles-County/Los-Angeles.html

haha looking at the numbers, ull see what i mean by irvine has superior air quality to los angeles... its ONE full point above los angeles at 2.2 (out of a 0-10 scale, 0 being barely breathable) HAHHAA oh the premium one has to pay for that ONE full point of better air...

Thanks for sharing those links.  I hadn't seen that site before. 

Wow! Our air is a lot less polluted here in Foothill Ranch than in Irvine according to that site's carbon monoxide rating. Only 30% of the stations around the country  register higher (i.e. more polluted) than Irvine.  :-\ Here it's 80%. Good to know. Yeah, thanks for the link. I'd seen air quality indices on other sites (city-data.com? I don't remember) but not laid out quite like that. In Irvine's defense, though, it doesn't seem very accurate to give one rating for the entire city, which is 20 minutes in either direction and varies in topography. I almost wrote "traffic congestion" then hit backspace. It used to vary in congestion but not so much anymore. Maybe that's why the carbon monoxide rating is so poor.

gotta look at the data with a grain of salt... its an average of an average... takes the entire cities average pollution level and then averages it again across daily fluctuations throughout the year...

there was a website that showed the data on how many purple haze days irvine had and i remember it being 2-3 days each year (im also assuming this is when the santa ana winds occur where inland wind blows out to the coast, whereas normally coastal wind blows inland)... on the days the santa ana winds are active is when the laguna altura wok will be a VERY big problem...

all i know is irvine gets most of its air movement from that travels up newport bay (a little from the 133 canyon via laguna beach n a little from mission viejo... but honestly these are nominal compared to the air we get from newport), so if they have bad air, we have worse... then our air travels to riverside, so if our air sucks, riversides sucks even more... im just surprised ppl that complain laguna altura is a wok doesnt realize that irvine itself is a huge wok... ppl that really give a damn about air quality really shouldnt be shopping in irvine or california in general (CA air sucks because bad air from china floats here)... they should really re-consider irvine in general...

anybody want to start a business bottling air like that lorax movie? lol...

"The Motor Court Company", what have you got to say about this counter argument regarding possible air pollution at Laguna Altura? Maybe you should consider relocating out of California for the sake of your family's health.

 

[changm55]

lets not be mean... i understand where motor courts coming from cause he/she is right too... if i remember correctly freeway pollution is independant of the general air pollution... its just motor courts understanding of the "proximity" to freeway is biased and not factual...

here is the study in regards to proximity of the freeway that i think u are refering to that i had saved in my bookmark when i was researching which property to buy...
http://www.sfgate.com/health/article/Highways-bad-for-children-s-lungs-USC-study-2654325.phphttp://www.i-70east.com/DEIS/Comment_98_033109.pdf

study shows if u live within 500m of a freeway, children show 3% inhaling and 7% exhaling deficit compared to ppl who live beyond 1500m of a freeway... shows no significant difference between those living between 1000m-1500m then those living within 500m-1000m... so pretty much if ur within 1500m ur screwed...

thats about 4900ft... this includes the ENTIRE laguna altura and most of QH.... if u count 133 as a freeway then this also includes most of woodbury and most of stonegate... u cannot point at laguna altura without aknowledging that most of ur own community is within the danger zone for your child too...

laguna altura definitely gets "double whammed"... but u cannot just point at laguna altura as if it is the ONLY community getting double whammed cause which new development in irvine IS NOT next to a freeway?? there are not that many... go to googlemaps and see what new communities are 4900ft (1500m) of freeway... san mateo is also in the red zone

at this point we are just arguing is it better to be in a "semi-red" zone? or a "normal red" zone? or a "glaring red" zone... its a dumb comparison... red zone is red zone... its crap... but apparently dumb ppl like me still buy...

from what i learned in Los angeles, in the end it doesnt really matter... ppl here sorta just accept they live in a shit hole... in fact sometimes its the opposite, dumb ppl pay more money here to live NEAR the freeway for convenience...

 

[changm55]

now san mateo would definitely be a better choice if you or your wife was expecting...

if ur 300m from freeway during ur pregnancy, u have a significantly higher chance ur kid will have autism than expecting mothers living beyond 300m of a freeway... so if u get ur wife pregnant, and u live at laguna altura, id suggest u have her live her pregnancy days at her parents place in palos verdes...
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info:doi/10.1289/ehp.1002835

but if u already have kids n ur wifes not pregnant... then doesnt matter anymore... ur kids r screwed unless u live over 1500m from the freeway...

so there u go... those are the magic numbers... >300m for expecting mothers... and >1500m for kids growing up...

 

[jamboreedude]

now san mateo would definitely be a better choice if you or your wife was expecting...

if ur 300m from freeway during ur pregnancy, u have a significantly higher chance ur kid will have autism than expecting mothers living beyond 300m of a freeway... so if u get ur wife pregnant, and u live at laguna altura, id suggest u have her live her pregnancy days at her parents place in palos verdes...
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info:doi/10.1289/ehp.1002835

but if u already have kids n ur wifes not pregnant... then doesnt matter anymore... ur kids r screwed unless u live over 1500m from the freeway...

so there u go... those are the magic numbers... >300m for expecting mothers... and >1500m for kids growing up...

Look at the million+ dollars condominiums all over Manhattan! There are many condos so close to the FDR drive (a highway/freeway in New York City) and they still selling for millions! Irvine home prices are PEANUTS!  Example:  The Trump World Tower:http://www.trumpsalesandleasing.com/bldggallery.aspx#15107
I wouldn't worry too much about this after all! We should all be fine in Irvine in terms of air quality, but I am not sure about landfill gasses and leaks though.  :

 

[Irvinecommuter]

now san mateo would definitely be a better choice if you or your wife was expecting...

if ur 300m from freeway during ur pregnancy, u have a significantly higher chance ur kid will have autism than expecting mothers living beyond 300m of a freeway... so if u get ur wife pregnant, and u live at laguna altura, id suggest u have her live her pregnancy days at her parents place in palos verdes...
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info:doi/10.1289/ehp.1002835

but if u already have kids n ur wifes not pregnant... then doesnt matter anymore... ur kids r screwed unless u live over 1500m from the freeway...

so there u go... those are the magic numbers... >300m for expecting mothers... and >1500m for kids growing up...

or just have only girls.

 

[IrvineHomeBuyer]

I don't know how good of a study that is. Unless you can show me a study that shows 1 out of 2 kids in quail hill are born with Autism, then maybe i will believe it.

 

[IrvineHomeBuyer]

The 3 most important things to look for when buying a home is
1. location
2. location
3. location

but I guess when buying at lambert ranch it is
1. landfill
2. cell phone tower
3. prison (my realtor tells me its "white collar" so it shouldn't be a problem  )

The closer to these amenities, the pricier

 

[jwinston2]

I am a lurker but wanted to post these links if anyone is interested in various studies looking at child development and freeways.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070125185843.htmhttp://www.ehjournal.net/content/6/1/23/http://www.scpcs.ucla.edu/news/Freeway.pdfhttp://www.usc.edu/hsc/info/pr/1volpdf/pdf10/1639.pdfhttp://hydra.usc.edu/scehsc/web/Res...n Section 2007/V. Tab 2. C. Lung Function.pdfhttp://www.shankerlaw.net/Articles/Loop202/FreewayEffectOnChildrenStudy.pdfhttp://www.arb.ca.gov/research/health/healthup/march07.pdfhttp://www.hinesburg.org/lot15/hannaford_recent_comments_july2012.pdfhttp://www.ems-us.org/geta/docs/Traffic_Winter_2009.pdfhttp://ajrccm.atsjournals.org/content/178/7/721.full.pdfhttp://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2012AtmEn..51..311Hhttp://www.coeh.ucla.edu/node/121http://www.arb.ca.gov/research/mobile/hcm/mp_04-348_final_report.pdf(Summary:http://www.coeh.ucla.edu/node/121)http://breatheroanoke.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/airpollutionhealth.pdfhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3059289/?tool=pmcentrezhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18852158http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1971259/?tool=pmcentrez

I also have a few links on Landfills.
http://www.hpa.org.uk/webc/HPAwebFile/HPAweb_C/1309969974126http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1637771/http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15948651http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3143289/?tool=pmcentrezhttp://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22137772

Please take these with a grain of salt and do your own research, pubmed is a great resource for finding peer reviewed academic papers. Hopefully someone finds these links useful.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

3. prison (my realtor tells me its "white collar" so it shouldn't be a problem  )

Hehe... IHS would love that one.

Your realtor should also add this to their repertoire:

"Violent crime is non-existent in Irvine... the only time someone dies is by natural causes or self-infliction."

 

[socal78]

3. prison (my realtor tells me its "white collar" so it shouldn't be a problem  )

Who is your realtor?

"most are in jail for crimes such as driving under the influence, minor drug possession, burglary, failure to pay child support, and or prostitution."
- Musick Jail Info

I will add that although the page says violent offenders are not eligible for transfer to this facility, I have watched "Lockup Extended Stay: Orange County" where Musick jail has been showcased. On several episodes they show inmates AWAITING TRIAL for violent offenses. They may not technically be a convict but that just means they haven't been found guilty (yet).

 

[IrvineHomeBuyer]

now san mateo would definitely be a better choice if you or your wife was expecting...

if ur 300m from freeway during ur pregnancy, u have a significantly higher chance ur kid will have autism than expecting mothers living beyond 300m of a freeway... so if u get ur wife pregnant, and u live at laguna altura, id suggest u have her live her pregnancy days at her parents place in palos verdes...
http://ehp03.niehs.nih.gov/article/info:doi/10.1289/ehp.1002835

but if u already have kids n ur wifes not pregnant... then doesnt matter anymore... ur kids r screwed unless u live over 1500m from the freeway...

so there u go... those are the magic numbers... >300m for expecting mothers... and >1500m for kids growing up...

San Remo is about 600m away from 405  :

 

[changm55]

yeah i know about manhattan prices... but at the end of the day, landfill at the end is also disregarded just like freeways if location is good... just want to be fair to PS n stonegate...

for example...

1.) a whole section of the newport beach border with irvine used to be landfill too though... the homes they build arnd there are all 1m+ now :-\

2.) playa vista new development in los angeles is sitting on top of a methane dump... condos 600k+... ppl still buying... actually my friend bought there but then there was an incident that the methane had started leaking... so he made the developer buy it back... but someone picked up his lot very quickly thereafter...

 

[changm55]

also ppl dont really seem to like to talk much about irvine crime (at least face to face)...

so the gated community appealed to me... until i read the san remo disclosure and laguna alturas gate dude only prevents flim flam "cars" from entering... if ur a flim flam you can still walk in, the gate dude wont stop you even if ur epic hobo with a long beard and havent showered in 6 years... does this concern anybody?

i was surprised at the amount of theft/robbery in quail hill...http://spotcrime.com/#33.646478, -117.7733
but again, what did i say about flim flam... seems most of it is where the condo/townhomes are... the rate greatly decreases when ur in the SFR areas... thats why i tend to avoid SFR near apartments

but then u never really know if these "thefts" arent just fake reports of breakins and some dude reports he got some "laptops" stolen just so he/she can claim insurance money since ur required to file a police report on it... the condo im living in right now in los angeles,  i got my 600 hundred dollar bike stolen and i didnt even bother reporting it... whereas my neighbor upstairs reported he got 5-6 "laptops" stolen from his storage unit... who the hell is dumb enough to store 5-6 laptops in a downstairs storage unit... i mean we all knew he just lied so he can claim the insurance... out of all the 7 units in the complex that got things stolen, only him and some other dude filed claims... the other dude was cause he was going into foreclosure and needed money... such fraudsters... they are worse then yellow trash man...

 

[socal78]

if ur a flim flam you can still walk in, the gate dude wont stop you even if ur epic hobo with a long beard and havent showered in 6 years... does this concern anybody?

Wouldn't concern me. It would stand to reason that a person needs a transponder of some sort to access the sidewalk gate. When I lived in a gated community in Portola Springs, a pedestrian could not enter without one. I want to say it was like after 5 p.m. but I don't remember. I just remember getting locked out when I went for walks and forgot to take mine with me. Sure, the hobo could theoretically follow someone in, except what resident would hold the door open for a transient ?? I don't think anybody would.