Retail Openings and Closures
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What?! I was just there on Tuesday. Nooooooo. That's one of my go-to places for lunch. So bummed out now.
I actually liked the fact that they were by the grocery stores. Always picked up dinner there after a TJ stop versus walking across to the other eateries. The last few times I went, the service was pretty lackluster. Food quality seems to be on the decline too. Too bad. They were a decent option.
That keeps almost any restaurant in business.
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For example, in Quail Hill there is a Chinese restaurant Crystal Jade (now called SinoFusion) and they let a Pick-Up Stix open up there. In the Alton/Jeffrey center, they just opened a Pizza 90, yet the CPK will be open there this Wednesday. In that same center, they opened a Mooyah (burgers/fries place) even though a McDs has been there forever. In the 99 Ranch center off of Culver, there is Panda Express and Sam Woo Express.
TIC doesn't really care about non-competes, they just want tenants who will pay their lease and their retail %.
Is this true? Most of the examples you cited are two of the same cuisine/type of food but different class of restaurant (eg fast food vs fast casual or fast casual vs full service).
Personally, I think WTC needs a real legit Asian joint. Not that Asian tapas garbage.
There is a Creamistry but they let Cookie Connection sell ice cream.
The last time I was in a lease negotiation with TIC, they were the ones who could determine if products/stores were competing but you had no guarantee they wouldn't lease out space to a similar business.
Smaller centers/landlords do have non-compete restrictions... but TIC doesn't really care from what I've seen... they might mention something if there is a similar business in the center, but if the business still wants to lease space and is willing to pay their price... TIC will probably let them as long as you can prove that your business can stay for the length of the lease (TIC is also strict on 5-years or longer) and that you can pay your retail sales cut commission.
Interestingly..I find Asian Tapa and Ren a lot more authentic than many Chinese joints. I like both a lot more than S&W and Sam Woo (who are both lacking in quality and way too greasy).
That's actually an important point. Asian Tapas is run by Taiwanese owners so you can't order the traditional Cantonese faire (Chow mein, fried rice, etc.). What do you get there?
irvinehomeowner
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Someone had posted this already but I didn't know Stacks is basically a Hawaiian food place.
Competition for Da Luau (who also has breakfast and macadamia nut pancakes)
Competition for Da Luau (who also has breakfast and macadamia nut pancakes)
Garbanzo at Woodbury Town Center has closed. Too bad. It think a main factor was the fact that they were located in the non-food area of the shopping center, by the dry cleaner and optometry and the bike place. If they had a location where all the other food places are within that shopping center they might've had a better chance.
happytales
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NYT said:
What?! I was just there on Tuesday. Nooooooo. That's one of my go-to places for lunch. So bummed out now.
NYT said:
I actually liked the fact that they were by the grocery stores. Always picked up dinner there after a TJ stop versus walking across to the other eateries. The last few times I went, the service was pretty lackluster. Food quality seems to be on the decline too. Too bad. They were a decent option.
irvinehomeowner
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I eat there.bones said:
That keeps almost any restaurant in business.
x 4Kangen.Irvine
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Hopefully a better Mediterranean place fills the void. Chicken Maison would be a great Irvine addition, but the closest is currently Santa Ana.
irvinehomeowner
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It's an Irvine Company center... non-competes don't exist.aquabliss said:
For example, in Quail Hill there is a Chinese restaurant Crystal Jade (now called SinoFusion) and they let a Pick-Up Stix open up there. In the Alton/Jeffrey center, they just opened a Pizza 90, yet the CPK will be open there this Wednesday. In that same center, they opened a Mooyah (burgers/fries place) even though a McDs has been there forever. In the 99 Ranch center off of Culver, there is Panda Express and Sam Woo Express.
TIC doesn't really care about non-competes, they just want tenants who will pay their lease and their retail %.
Pieology is at the bottom for me. Blaze is my #1.
irvinehomeowner said:
Is this true? Most of the examples you cited are two of the same cuisine/type of food but different class of restaurant (eg fast food vs fast casual or fast casual vs full service).
Personally, I think WTC needs a real legit Asian joint. Not that Asian tapas garbage.
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
At the Crossroads, there was already HairMasters and Carlton Hair, they let Floyds99 open up there.bones said:
There is a Creamistry but they let Cookie Connection sell ice cream.
The last time I was in a lease negotiation with TIC, they were the ones who could determine if products/stores were competing but you had no guarantee they wouldn't lease out space to a similar business.
Smaller centers/landlords do have non-compete restrictions... but TIC doesn't really care from what I've seen... they might mention something if there is a similar business in the center, but if the business still wants to lease space and is willing to pay their price... TIC will probably let them as long as you can prove that your business can stay for the length of the lease (TIC is also strict on 5-years or longer) and that you can pay your retail sales cut commission.
Irvinecommuter
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bones said:
Interestingly..I find Asian Tapa and Ren a lot more authentic than many Chinese joints. I like both a lot more than S&W and Sam Woo (who are both lacking in quality and way too greasy).
Irvinecommuter
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bones said:
That's actually an important point. Asian Tapas is run by Taiwanese owners so you can't order the traditional Cantonese faire (Chow mein, fried rice, etc.). What do you get there?