Ranking of World Universities

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eyephone said:
The source of the ranking is questionable.

Why?  The ranking has been done for 12 years and widely recognized as credible.  Certainly much more reliable than US News.

Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU), also known as Shanghai Ranking, is an annual publication of university rankings by Shanghai Ranking Consultancy.  The league table was originally compiled and issued by Shanghai Jiaotong University in 2003, the first global ranking with multifarious indicators, after which a board of international advisories was established to provide suggestions.  The publication now comprises the world's overall and subject league tables, alongside independent regional Greater China Ranking and Macedonian HEIs Ranking. ARWU is regarded as one of the most widely observed university measures.  It is praised for its objective methodology but draws some condemnation for undermining humanities and quality of instruction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities
 
Irvinecommuter said:
eyephone said:
The source of the ranking is questionable.

Why?  The ranking has been done for 12 years and widely recognized as credible.  Certainly much more reliable than US News.

Academic Ranking of World Universities (ARWU), also known as Shanghai Ranking, is an annual publication of university rankings by Shanghai Ranking Consultancy.  The league table was originally compiled and issued by Shanghai Jiaotong University in 2003, the first global ranking with multifarious indicators, after which a board of international advisories was established to provide suggestions.  The publication now comprises the world's overall and subject league tables, alongside independent regional Greater China Ranking and Macedonian HEIs Ranking. ARWU is regarded as one of the most widely observed university measures.  It is praised for its objective methodology but draws some condemnation for undermining humanities and quality of instruction.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academic_Ranking_of_World_Universities


Because it's from CHINA.
 
Of course, these rankings are reliable...up to #15 anyway.  :P

This is how the world ranks universities from their point of view, not Irvine's skewed ones.  :P
 
I know of only couple of folks that even got into cal tech, and a lot of Berkeley.  I don't see how they would be ranked higher, as well as over other Ivy League schools.
 
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students. 
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students.

Like I said - "it's questionable"
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students.

Actually it is because many of those schools are liberal arts colleges or universities with limited scope of study.  The ranking puts a strong emphasis on excellence across a range of studies rather than just a few subjects.
 
Then how did Cal Tech get to be on the list when the school enrollment is less than many liberal arts colleges and with even fewer majors offered than the liberal colleges?

Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students.

Actually it is because many of those schools are liberal arts colleges or universities with limited scope of study.  The ranking puts a strong emphasis on excellence across a range of studies rather than just a few subjects.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
Then how did Cal Tech get to be on the list when the school enrollment is less than many liberal arts colleges and with even fewer majors offered than the liberal colleges?

Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students.

Actually it is because many of those schools are liberal arts colleges or universities with limited scope of study.  The ranking puts a strong emphasis on excellence across a range of studies rather than just a few subjects.

Because the rankings put a heavier emphasis on hard science and engineering.

Institutions are ranked by five broad subject fields,including

Natural Sciences and Mathematics (SCI)
Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences (ENG)
Life and Agriculture Sciences (LIFE)
Clinical Medicine and Pharmacy (MED)
Social Sciences (SOC)

Arts and humanities are not ranked because of the technical difficulties in finding internationally comparable indicators with reliable data. Psychology/Psychiatry is not included in the ranking because of its multi-disciplinary characteristics.
http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU-FIELD-Methodology-2015.html

The ranking is based upon awards received by staff/alumni, research papers published, and funding.  Your liberal arts colleges don't meet those elements.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Then how did Cal Tech get to be on the list when the school enrollment is less than many liberal arts colleges and with even fewer majors offered than the liberal colleges?

Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
Many of these universities have strong presence in China and actively recruiting future foreign students. The top ranking schools have a relatively high acceptances of Chinese foreign students. Top schools like Pomona, Claremont McKenna, Williams, Swathmore, Wesleyan, West Point  and Notredame did not even make the list because these schools don't cater to the Chinese foreign students.

Actually it is because many of those schools are liberal arts colleges or universities with limited scope of study.  The ranking puts a strong emphasis on excellence across a range of studies rather than just a few subjects.

Because the rankings put a heavier emphasis on hard science and engineering.

Institutions are ranked by five broad subject fields,including

Natural Sciences and Mathematics (SCI)
Engineering/Technology and Computer Sciences (ENG)
Life and Agriculture Sciences (LIFE)
Clinical Medicine and Pharmacy (MED)
Social Sciences (SOC)

Arts and humanities are not ranked because of the technical difficulties in finding internationally comparable indicators with reliable data. Psychology/Psychiatry is not included in the ranking because of its multi-disciplinary characteristics.
http://www.shanghairanking.com/ARWU-FIELD-Methodology-2015.html

The ranking is based upon awards received by staff/alumni, research papers published, and funding.  Your liberal arts colleges don't meet those elements.

IHS is just mad that his daughter's school didn't make the cut.

#Williams#1
 
I am sure the Chinese government already has the research papers and scientific discoveries from these highly ranked universities.  I see why Williams college's humanity and human rights papers did not make the cut.
 
This is interesting, looking at the value of particular university/college base on earning and debt. 

Obama?s revamped ?College Scorecard? uses IRS data to help gauge schools

The Obama administration released its much-anticipated college scorecard Saturday morning, offering new insights into the value of a university degree ? and the risks associated with getting one.

The new system will present the average earnings of graduates at individual schools using Internal Revenue Service data. The scorecard spells out how students fare 10 years after graduation as well as how they compare with people who entered the workforce with just a high-school diploma.

Americans will ?be able to see how much each school?s graduates earn, how much debt they graduate with, and what percentage of a school?s students can pay back their loans,? President Barack Obama will say in his radio address, according to prepared remarks provided by the White House. The scorecard ?will help all of us see which schools do the best job of preparing Americans for success.?

For example, a prospective student could compare the median earnings 10 years out of college for different schools and see that for Harvard University it is $87,000, for Stanford University $81,000, for Columbia University $73,000 and for Princeton University $75,000.

At the same time the median debt of graduates vary considerably: for Harvard it is $6,000, for Stanford $12,224, for Columbia $19,435 and for Princeton $6,810.

Look up several CA universities from the link scorecard spells out how students fare just to compare.

The median earnings 10 years out of college:

Stanford    $80,900
Cal Tech    $74,000
USC          $66,100
UC Berkeley$62,700
UCSD        $59,600
UCLA          $59,200
UCI            $55,800
 
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