Presidential Elections

[Perspective]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

It's not racist to identify the percentage of non-white voters who supported Clinton either.

That was a quick "reverse racism" trigger!

 

[jmoney74]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

Funny how this all turned to "uneducated" voters.  In states like MI, these are your blue collar workers and yes.. they have a vote!

 

[Perspective]

So, was this election rigged or not? I'm so confused today.

 

[jerometl]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

I think the blame really lie on Clinton itself more than the other side.  If she just have gotten the same amount of support from their traditional minority constituents .. it would not have matter:

She can't even get more votes compared to Obama from women given the Trumps reputation with women"

"When it came to women voters, Clinton won 54% compared to Trump's 42%. Even though 70% of voters said that Trump's treatment of women bothered them, they still didn't flock to the woman who could have broken the glass ceiling. Obama won 55% of the women's vote in 2012."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/polit...ericans-latinos-women-white-voters/index.html

 

[riznick]

"uneducated"...  Geesh, seems like a wannabe bully elitist trying to insult others because she/he/ze/te/lasdkhdfe didn't get his way. 

My opinion is that well over 80% of the voters on both sides are uneducated. 

But what does educated mean?  It's kind of insulting to claim someone isn't educated because they didn't take the same college classes as someone else.  Shaming someone for not having the same level of college as you kinda puts you in an elitist prick category.

So what would educated be?  It's gotta be whether they did their due diligence with research on everyone and everything they are going to vote for.  Many people were easily swayed by their biased media (on both sides).  Too many people feel that since they did some research that they are experts on the topics.

 

[jerometl]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

It's not racist to identify the percentage of non-white voters who supported Clinton either.

That was a quick "reverse racism" trigger!

It becomes racist when you label them as poorly educated -- same as labeling all Mexican illegal or Muslim as terrorist etc...

 

[Perspective]

"poorly educated older white males"
I think many people will be offended by that. I will take a person with real life experience over a fresh college graduate.
Any way, it is time for California to leave the Union. California is vastly different from the rest of country any way.
#CalExit

He seems like a wannabe bully trying to insult others because he didn't get his way.

Is that ad hominem directed at me? I didn't vote for Clinton. I never get my way in Presidential elections, as a social liberal and fiscal conservative. Although, with a Republican Congress and President, I'm very likely to pay much less in taxes soon.

 

[riznick]

Is that ad hominem directed at me?

It's directed at the word "uneducated".  I edited/expanded my post above.

 

[Perspective]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

It's not racist to identify the percentage of non-white voters who supported Clinton either.

That was a quick "reverse racism" trigger!

It becomes racist when you label them as poorly educated -- same as labeling all Mexican illegal or Muslim as terrorist etc...

Bit of a false equivalency there, but, let's label them "non-college educated" then.

 

[jmoney74]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

It's not racist to identify the percentage of non-white voters who supported Clinton either.

That was a quick "reverse racism" trigger!

It becomes racist when you label them as poorly educated -- same as labeling all Mexican illegal or Muslim as terrorist etc...

Bit of a false equivalency there, but, let's label them "non-college educated" then.

Perspective must have lots of friends. 

 

[Perspective]

Congrats to Trump are in order. Nobody believed he could motivate and enthuse a sufficient percentage of poorly educated older white male voters to win the non-metro areas of PA, MI, WI, and FL. Kudos.

What's the gameplan going forward in Presidential elections for Republicans? Is Trump even a Republican? The demographics of the US continue to make duplicating this effort extremely difficult.

change the word "white" to some other color or race and male to female and see how racist that statement is... just saying...

That's a good exercise, and when I do so, applied to the facts we have about this election, it isn't racist.

It's not racist to identify the percentage of non-white voters who supported Clinton either.

That was a quick "reverse racism" trigger!

It becomes racist when you label them as poorly educated -- same as labeling all Mexican illegal or Muslim as terrorist etc...

Bit of a false equivalency there, but, let's label them "non-college educated" then.

Perspective must have lots of friends.

Another ad hominem.

 

[eyephone]

Blame the media and data analyst for making that term up. In my opinion, she should blame her campaign staffers for the loss. She didn't even step into Wisconsin during the general election. Michigan she should of won.

"uneducated"...  Geesh, seems like a wannabe bully elitist trying to insult others because she/he/ze/te/lasdkhdfe didn't get his way. 

My opinion is that well over 80% of the voters on both sides are uneducated. 

But what does educated mean?  It's kind of insulting to claim someone isn't educated because they didn't take the same college classes as someone else.  Shaming someone for not having the same level of college as you kinda puts you in an elitist prick category.

So what would educated be?  It's gotta be whether they did their due diligence with research on everyone and everything they are going to vote for.  Many people were easily swayed by their biased media (on both sides).  Too many people feel that since they did some research that they are experts on the topics.

 

[YellowFever]

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[morekaos]

It wasn't just stupid white people, The vaunted latino vote pushed him in too...

Why the Latino Vote Didn?t Save America

Hispanic voters were supposed to be one of Clinton?s blue firewalls?but one in three ended up splitting for Trump.

Given the bad blood between Trump and Latinos, one of the biggest surprises on Election Night was that so many Latinos ended up voting for their tormentor. According to CNN?s exit polls, about 27 percent of Latinos voted for Trump. Exit polls from The New York Times put the figure at 29 percent.
This means that Trump did better with Hispanics than Bob Dole in 1996 (21 percent), and wound up comparable to Mitt Romney in 2012 (27 percent).
Que paso? I myself, on this page, have compared the concept of Latinos for Trump to the absurd idea of ?Chickens for Colonel Sanders.? And yet here we are. What makes these people tick?
And what will a Trump presidency mean for the group of Americans that he first targeted, the group that hates him the most but which also seems to have given him a slight opening?say about 27 to 29 percent worth?to start a conversation?
As for Trump?s Latino support, I was shocked that it was so high. But, for months, I?ve been predicting that Trump would get about 20 percent of the Latino vote?which is a lot higher than many of his Latino critics thought possible.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-the-latino-vote-didn-t-save-america.html

 

[YellowFever]

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[irvinehomeowner]

It wasn't just stupid white people, The vaunted latino vote pushed him in too...

Why the Latino Vote Didn?t Save America

Hispanic voters were supposed to be one of Clinton?s blue firewalls?but one in three ended up splitting for Trump.

Given the bad blood between Trump and Latinos, one of the biggest surprises on Election Night was that so many Latinos ended up voting for their tormentor. According to CNN?s exit polls, about 27 percent of Latinos voted for Trump. Exit polls from The New York Times put the figure at 29 percent.
This means that Trump did better with Hispanics than Bob Dole in 1996 (21 percent), and wound up comparable to Mitt Romney in 2012 (27 percent).
Que paso? I myself, on this page, have compared the concept of Latinos for Trump to the absurd idea of ?Chickens for Colonel Sanders.? And yet here we are. What makes these people tick?
And what will a Trump presidency mean for the group of Americans that he first targeted, the group that hates him the most but which also seems to have given him a slight opening?say about 27 to 29 percent worth?to start a conversation?
As for Trump?s Latino support, I was shocked that it was so high. But, for months, I?ve been predicting that Trump would get about 20 percent of the Latino vote?which is a lot higher than many of his Latino critics thought possible.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/09/why-the-latino-vote-didn-t-save-america.html

Mexicans who are already here don't want more Mexicans to come here to take their jobs, they want the wall and thus voted Trump... am I right qwerxican?*

*This is satire.

 

[sgip]

Someone at Camp Hillary sorely misunderestimated the size and depth of those in the Basket of Deplorables.

If I'm not mistaken the largest voting block out there are women (all colors, shapes, and sizes) and could have elected her. Clearly it's not White Males (a rapidly declining target group) who pulled this off. The complete mix of all races, creeds, education levels, etc made this happen.

I do so love hearing Starbucks Barista's In Training Social Justice Warriors bemoaning how it's low brow whitey's fault it, or how "The Blacks" - as they put it, not me... - Latina/Latino/Hispanics or the alphabet LGBTQWERTYZYX people groups that didn't get out and come through for HRC. They really need to point the finger of blame at the quality of their candidate and nothing more. President Elect Rabid Orangutan had his issues, but the Scabrous Gorgon was clearly unpalatable to so many of us.

My .02c

 

[Perspective]

Polls suggested Clinton might win the white college educated vote, but Trump pulled this group, like every other Republican before, albeit by just a couple points.

 

[nosuchreality]

I'm not sure what that says Soylent, but the issue is simple.  In 2008 President Obama got 69.5 million votes to McCain's 59.9 million.  In 2012 he got about 65.9 million votes to Romney's 60.9.

Yesterday. Hillary got 59.5 million votes.  Trump got less, 59.2.

16% of President Obama's supporters said no to Hillary.

Not to mention the 112 million adult Americans that didn't vote at all. 

 

[iacrenter]

Ultimately Hillary represented the establishment Washington. Half the electorate rejected a continuation of Obama's policies. The people demanded change and that is what they got. We'll see how that translates into policy over the next 4 years.