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"Legislating from the bench" is a phrase with little meaning other than disapproval of a judges decision. It has been used on both side when the parties were dissatisfied with the outcome of a particular ruling.
 
peppy said:
"Legislating from the bench" is a phrase with little meaning other than disapproval of a judges decision. It has been used on both side when the parties were dissatisfied with the outcome of a particular ruling.
Sometimes it is, other times it isn't.  Are you passively stating that is what I did?  If so, then you are wrong. 
 
Perspective said:
Perhaps you'd like to explain your idea of what a logical fallacy is as applied to that last comment?
Sure, I mention that your multiple paragraph response has logical fallacies in it, and you single out one sentence and imply that I was talking about that one particular sentence.
 
spootieho said:
Perspective said:
Perhaps you'd like to explain your idea of what a logical fallacy is as applied to that last comment?
Sure, I mention that your multiple paragraph response has logical fallacies in it, and you single out one sentence and imply that I was talking about that one particular sentence.

Goodness gracious...
 
Judicial activism is in the eye of the beholder. Liberals said SCOTUS was legislating from the bench when they said the 2nd amendment is a personal right.  Conservatives said SCOTUS was legislating from the bench when they said privacy rights includes abortions.  Like it or not, courts do make laws.  Almost all of the laws protecting minorities from abuse by the majority originated from the courts because it is nearly impossible to get such laws passed in a legislative body or popular referendum. The Civil Rights Act probably would not have been enacted had the courts not previously changed peoples attitudes in such decisions as Brown vs. Board of Education.
 
Happiness said:
Judicial activism is in the eye of the beholder. Liberals said SCOTUS was legislating from the bench when they said the 2nd amendment is a personal right.  Conservatives said SCOTUS was legislating from the bench when they said privacy rights includes abortions.  Like it or not, courts do make laws.  Almost all of the laws protecting minorities from abuse by the majority originated from the courts because it is nearly impossible to get such laws passed in a legislative body or popular referendum. The Civil Rights Act probably would not have been enacted had the courts not previously changed peoples attitudes in such decisions as Brown vs. Board of Education.

This is why I roll my eyes when I hear blather like "legislating from the bench" and "judicial activism."
 
Perspective said:
Goodness gracious...
Hey, you asked.  Your response here shows you don't actually care.  Why did you ask?  You aren't making an honest attempt in conversation here.  What you are doing, is dishonest. 

Here are logical fallacies that you've made:

Ad Hominem: You tried to discredit everything I said by making assumptions that you know nothing about.
Genetic: You judged something as either good or bad on the basis of where it comes from or from whom it comes from.
Ad Hominem: You followed up with more ad hominem.
Strawman: You misrepresented the argument to make it easier to attack.
Composition/Division: You assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all or other parts of it. 
Tu Quoque: You avoided the point I was making and instead turned the argument to me, answering criticism with criticism.
 
spootieho said:
Perspective said:
Goodness gracious...
Hey, you asked.  Your response here shows you don't actually care.  Why did you ask?  You aren't making an honest attempt in conversation here.  What you are doing, is dishonest. 

Here are logical fallacies that you've made:

Ad Hominem: You tried to discredit everything I said by making assumptions that you know nothing about.
Genetic: You judged something as either good or bad on the basis of where it comes from or from whom it comes from.
Ad Hominem: You followed up with more ad hominem.
Strawman: You misrepresented the argument to make it easier to attack.
Composition/Division: You assumed that one part of something has to be applied to all or other parts of it. 
Tu Quoque: You avoided the point I was making and instead turned the argument to me, answering criticism with criticism.

This happens in blog comments. Everything is so brief, that assumptions are made. I was solely making a point about your use of "legislating from the bench." That's all. It's pretty simple stuff. If that's not what you meant, you could simply have expounded on your intent.
 
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world. 
 
ps9 said:
I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.
Fame, Power, Respect, Winning, Being mentioned in History books...  Hopefully he wants history books to talk about him nicely. 

IMO, Hillary isn't much different, but she does care about some things.  The health care issue is one of her passions.

I'd like someone who would pick a good nonpartisan unbiased Supreme Court judge.  Good luck with that from either of these candidates.  Gary Johnson would probably be the best candidate for picking a supreme court judge, but he has almost no chance of winning.
 
Preferences and party lines aside, who do you think will win?

While it doesn't sit well with me (because I'm mainly conservative), I do think Hillary has the edge. Trump is a little too cray-cray for many.

I didn't think Obama would win over McCain 8 years ago because I thought the good ole boy mentality was still strong, and since Trump is a Rep, that doesn't bode well for him.
 
Hilary will win, neither candidate is great, but a part of me wants to elect Trump just to see what will happen.  But too bad I don't fit in well with Trump supporters nor want to be associated as such.
 
I've stopped making predictions.  The electorate is way to cray-cray to know what's going on. 

Then more importantly, the electorate is largely immaterial, whether Hillary carries California by one vote or 10 million doesn't change the 55 electoral votes.  And the electoral college projections, while strongly favoring Hillary, have way too many States in the battle ground stage.

In the mean time, we have August, September and October to get through where every cop killing, every shooting by the cops and incident of global extremism riles the masses.


Sadly, too bad we can't get Gary Johnson on the debate stage with the other two.  It would probably be the single biggest boon to third parties to see a viable, rational alternative to choosing the person I dislike less.
 
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

"As the GOP convention gets under way in Cleveland, a top adviser to presumptive nominee Donald Trump said the party wants to revive the Glass-Steagall Act, Depression-era legislation that helped prevent big bank "supermarkets" but which was repealed in 1999."

Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/gop-...ig-bank-breakup-return-of-glass-steagall.html

If this passed, I predict there will be big layoffs in the financial/banking sector.
 
eyephone said:
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

"As the GOP convention gets under way in Cleveland, a top adviser to presumptive nominee Donald Trump said the party wants to revive the Glass-Steagall Act, Depression-era legislation that helped prevent big bank "supermarkets" but which was repealed in 1999."

Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/gop-...ig-bank-breakup-return-of-glass-steagall.html

If this passed, I predict there will be big layoffs in the financial/banking sector.

I thought the Volcker Rule proposes to do much of what Glass-Steagall achieved anyway.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/bankinforeg/volcker-rule/
 
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

"As the GOP convention gets under way in Cleveland, a top adviser to presumptive nominee Donald Trump said the party wants to revive the Glass-Steagall Act, Depression-era legislation that helped prevent big bank "supermarkets" but which was repealed in 1999."

Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/gop-...ig-bank-breakup-return-of-glass-steagall.html

If this passed, I predict there will be big layoffs in the financial/banking sector.

I thought the Volcker Rule proposes to do much of what Glass-Steagall achieved anyway.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/bankinforeg/volcker-rule/
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...etween-volcker-rule-and-glasssteagall-act.asp

So regulate the financial sector, and his other policy limit trade. Where will the growth come from?
 
eyephone said:
Perspective said:
eyephone said:
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

"As the GOP convention gets under way in Cleveland, a top adviser to presumptive nominee Donald Trump said the party wants to revive the Glass-Steagall Act, Depression-era legislation that helped prevent big bank "supermarkets" but which was repealed in 1999."

Source:http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/18/gop-...ig-bank-breakup-return-of-glass-steagall.html

If this passed, I predict there will be big layoffs in the financial/banking sector.

I thought the Volcker Rule proposes to do much of what Glass-Steagall achieved anyway.
http://www.federalreserve.gov/bankinforeg/volcker-rule/
http://www.investopedia.com/ask/ans...etween-volcker-rule-and-glasssteagall-act.asp

So regulate the financial sector, and his other policy limit trade. Where will the growth come from?

Well, you see, you just cut taxes dramatically and the growth magically appears. Ask Larry Kudlow.
 
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

So what are your thoughts regarding the GOP convention? Do you think it is going well?
 
eyephone said:
ps9 said:
After Junior's speech yesterday, I might see Trump differently.  At least he's above Lebron in my short famous people I don't like list :)

I still can't get over the fact on why a billionaire wants the most stressful job in the world.

So what are your thoughts regarding the GOP convention? Do you think it is going well?

Trump says it's going well.....so it must be going well, right? 
 
"Let me tell you, alright, this convention has been HUGE, so big, the biggest, the best. I mean, Cleveland, wow, what a great host city. So great. The best, alright. Did you see my beautiful wife's speech. Wasn't that great? Isn't she beautiful? Alright, and Pence, HUGE, so huge. Great running mate, just great, the best."

(entire run-on sentence hyperbole spoken with pursed lips and squinted eyes)
 
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