wow,
isn't this the quintessential debate, being patriotic for protecting the country vs dumb war ala support the troops, you have to support the war vs we shouldn;t be there in the first place, as a foreigner, I'm still saddened by the how this country is do divided and separated from the rest of the world, democrat of republican, the S govt had not been very kind to the world in general, yes, it bailed out a lot of countries in WWI and WWII, but all the other wars against the reds is plain paranoia, subversive, and pushing the military-industrial campaign, depression? Here's the cure, WAR... America has transformed from an isolationist to a pure 'capital' imperialist. THE USA has intervened in so many foreign issues that stemmed from far right ideals of moral superiority to far left ideals of model citizen, how can we judge what other countries are doing and intervene when the fundamentals of this country is in shambles... from a foreign perspective it is really simple, america is a democratic country, so what the govt does, must be sactioned by the ppl, that is how the world sees it, that is why suicide bombers don;t see any difference btw the ppl athey blow up and the govt, yet the reality on the ground is, voter apathy is high, nobody cares cause they know they can;t make washington change...., The ppl of USA must share the blame for the hostility towards USA. nobody even dares to acknowledge it as it is purely unpatriotic, yet unpatriotic is not voting for the govt you deserve and be represented by honest politicians that care about issues and not reelections, congress gets an automatic pay raise regardless of economic conditions, now we have ron paul and obama, it really is HOPE, record turnout in the primaries and caucuses, young minds actually care!!! If this is not a revolution, I don;t know what is..... European countries are so use to demonstrations, and politicians change like the socal weather, why ppl here are not crying foul on all the injustices in this country is beyond me, has the cheap credit lull consumers into the thinking that prosperity = democracy? They is no perfect mode for governance, but they is a constitution, which is pretty good from what I understand.... we know its about oil, we know its about revenge, but what is root all the problems,a screwed up govt that does not represent the masses but a few for financial gain...., I come from a country that you know corruption is bad when u can bribe the traffic cop.... this country is heading that way as the gap btw rich and poor grows, ppl are divided on stupid issues like same sex marriage and abortion, social issues cannot be solved through legislation, if religion can;t do it, you expect a proposition xx to solve it?? I know ppl of all races and religion, and its funny how some latinos I know clap their hands when thire kids barely graduate high school yet asians will mortgage thier homes to send thier kids to college, the difference is priority they tells you that the problems are systemic within cultures, not rich or poor, good neigborhood vs bad neighborhood, in every bad neghborhood, there is always success stories and the 'accepted' degradation, yet in good suburbs, bad kids are a product of society, tv, music, bad parents is the cause of all social problems... sorry for ranting, i just think that the ppl in this country take a lot for granted and not fight for what is rightfully theirs, yet complain about other countries for the lack of 'democracy', at least they were no bombs dropping everyday when saddam was around......