Portola Springs Smog

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Looks like smog will be a big problem in Portola Springs - air quality seems get noticeably worse just going from Woodbury to PS. Or is it just my imagination? Also it seemed like east is worse than west. I'm thinking of purchasing at Los Arboles, but distance to highways and air quality may be reasons not to. Is there any website that publishes air quality report by villages?
 
[quote author="patsox1975" date=1249915950]Looks like smog will be a big problem in Portola Springs - air quality seems get noticeably worse just going from Woodbury to PS. <strong>Or is it just my imagination?</strong> Also it seemed like east is worse than west. I'm thinking of purchasing at Los Arboles, but distance to highways and air quality may be reasons not to. Is there any website that publishes air quality report by villages?</blockquote>


I think its your imagination - they are like a mile away from each other.
 
it could be something about the geography of the relative locations. landfill and tollroad can't help either.
 
It may just be that you are high enough to see the smog. Have you ever gone to the parks in Quail Hill, Turtle Ridge or Turtle rock during the day and looked out across the valley? You can see the smog very clearly if you are just above it. I try not to do this very often, or I would probably become really concerned about the air quality were I live....
 
[quote author="qwerty" date=1249948922][quote author="patsox1975" date=1249915950]Looks like smog will be a big problem in Portola Springs - air quality seems get noticeably worse just going from Woodbury to PS. <strong>Or is it just my imagination?</strong> Also it seemed like east is worse than west. I'm thinking of purchasing at Los Arboles, but distance to highways and air quality may be reasons not to. Is there any website that publishes air quality report by villages?</blockquote>


I think its your imagination - they are like a mile away from each other.</blockquote>


Yes, that's what I was thinking too, but they're at slightly different elevation/geography due to proximity to mountains. It could be smog's characteristics makes that the right altitude/geography for higher concentration.



I'll have to go to Quail Hill, Turtle Ridge or Turtle rock and look across the valley as IR has suggested. Or maybe ignorance is bliss, if I want to live in SoCal.
 
[quote author="IrvineRenter" date=1249952568]It may just be that you are high enough to see the smog. Have you ever gone to the parks in Quail Hill, Turtle Ridge or Turtle rock during the day and looked out across the valley? You can see the smog very clearly if you are just above it. I try not to do this very often, or I would probably become really concerned about the air quality were I live....</blockquote>


Good feng shui location theory is to avoid a location like a bottom of a wok where the temperature is the hottest. The Irvine Valley with surrounding hills on both sides restrict prevailing breeze and air flow.



Some other South County locations are much worse as the "wok" gets smaller where the parallel hills converge tighter such as the base of El Toro, AV and MV by the 5 fwy. Temperature there is often 10 degrees higher than the coast just on the other side of the hills. Heat, smog and higher temperature are the result of stagnant air caused by a blockage of prevailing ocean breeze air flow restricted by the surrounding hills.



Another metaphor for the bottom of a wok is heat from direct flame. Places like Yorba Linda and Corona are in a narrow valley (small wok) is prone to fire where the parallel hills on both sides of the 91 are converging tightly. Dry fuel as wel as the unwanted hot Santa Ana wind rushing down the surface of the hills is not an ideal feng shui location. Irvine is a very large wok which is actually better than Yorba Linda.



Weather and natural calamities occurred in a regular pattern based on the calendar year. The same conditions reoccurring in the nature cycle allow man to predict weather pattern, season, and natural disasters. Over the course of several thousand years Feng Shui philosophers recorded in their manual the features of geography that were good and bad.



For thousand of years the coastal locations were prized by the Chinese for abundance of food and prosperity. The western philosophy was quite the opposite not until the last 70 years the westerners realized the comfortable non fluctuating temperature is ideal. Coastal lands were cheap and unwanted written in some recent threads like Beacon Bay.



South facing coast is the ideal in term of solar orientation (PV, La Jolla, Santa Barbara, Carmel, and Monterey). West facing coast is good with some discomfort from solar heat gain. East facing coast is least desired due to the universal direction of hurricane and Typhoons mostly moving in the westerly direction pounding east facing coast like the recent China/ Taiwan Typhoon disaster.
 
Inland, different sides of the wok have different compositions.

East-facing slopes sustain more lush vegetation. Manzanita, toyon, and lemonade-berry. Slow hot burn.

West-facing side of the wok is hotter, and you'll notice more dominance by bunchgrasses, sage, and buckwheat. Fast-moving fires but with lower fuel density.

Important to know that many of these plants only regenerate through fire. Something to think about when your insurance is up for renewal...



-IR2
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1249956051]



Good feng shui location theory is to avoid a location like a bottom of a wok where the temperature is the hottest. The Irvine Valley with surrounding hills on both sides restrict prevailing breeze and air flow.

</blockquote>




Is PS in Irvine considered the bottom of the wok? You would think that is the top with the other side of the wok, Turtle Rock and everything inside it, the food..eg. Westpark, Northwood, Oak Creek, etc.
 
[quote author="frank69m" date=1249978927][quote author="bkshopr" date=1249956051]



Good feng shui location theory is to avoid a location like a bottom of a wok where the temperature is the hottest. The Irvine Valley with surrounding hills on both sides restrict prevailing breeze and air flow.

</blockquote>




Is PS in Irvine considered the bottom of the wok? You would think that is the top with the other side of the wok, Turtle Rock and everything inside it, the food..eg. Westpark, Northwood, Oak Creek, etc.</blockquote>


Does not matter where you are inside the concavity of the wok you will be eventully stir fried. It is better to be on the side than the bottom with the most intense heat and hot gravy (flood). The better place is the rim of the wok where there are fresh air and prevailing breeze. With modern civil engineering and the amazing Mountain to Sea trail the flood issue goes away. The philosophy existed several thousand of years for practical site locations before flood channels and air conditioning.
 
[quote author="bkshopr" date=1249985457][quote author="frank69m" date=1249978927][quote author="bkshopr" date=1249956051]



Good feng shui location theory is to avoid a location like a bottom of a wok where the temperature is the hottest. The Irvine Valley with surrounding hills on both sides restrict prevailing breeze and air flow.

</blockquote>




Is PS in Irvine considered the bottom of the wok? You would think that is the top with the other side of the wok, Turtle Rock and everything inside it, the food..eg. Westpark, Northwood, Oak Creek, etc.</blockquote>


Does not matter where you are inside the concavity of the wok you will be eventully stir fried. It is better to be on the side than the bottom with the most intense heat and hot gravy (flood). The better place is the rim of the wok where there are fresh air and prevailing breeze. With modern civil engineering and the amazing Mountain to Sea trail the flood issue goes away. The philosophy existed several thousand of years for practical site locations before flood channels and air conditioning.</blockquote>


Yes, confucious says, "better to build your home on high side of wok, since wok is made of high carbon steel. However, since one's home is likely built on soil and not steel, building ones home on a cliff could result in losing home in a landside and ancient chiness BS doesn't really apply".



Do me a favor, publish your real name and the firm you were laid off from so I never hire you to do a land plan. You're worse than the consultants that push LEED certification.
 
[quote author="tkaratz" date=1249995953][quote author="bkshopr" date=1249985457][quote author="frank69m" date=1249978927][quote author="bkshopr" date=1249956051]



Good feng shui location theory is to avoid a location like a bottom of a wok where the temperature is the hottest. The Irvine Valley with surrounding hills on both sides restrict prevailing breeze and air flow.

</blockquote>




Is PS in Irvine considered the bottom of the wok? You would think that is the top with the other side of the wok, Turtle Rock and everything inside it, the food..eg. Westpark, Northwood, Oak Creek, etc.</blockquote>


Does not matter where you are inside the concavity of the wok you will be eventully stir fried. It is better to be on the side than the bottom with the most intense heat and hot gravy (flood). The better place is the rim of the wok where there are fresh air and prevailing breeze. With modern civil engineering and the amazing Mountain to Sea trail the flood issue goes away. The philosophy existed several thousand of years for practical site locations before flood channels and air conditioning.</blockquote>


Yes, confucious says, "better to build your home on high side of wok, since wok is made of high carbon steel. However, since one's home is likely built on soil and not steel, building ones home on a cliff could result in losing home in a landside and ancient chiness BS doesn't really apply".

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Do me a favor, publish your real name and the firm you were laid off from so I never hire you to do a land plan. You're worse than the consultants that push LEED certification</strong>.</blockquote>
Whoa...where the hell is that coming from??? What got up your arse and what the hell did BK ever do to you? Believe me, if I was building a custom home in Shady Canyon or anywhere else I would be looking to BK to help me develop the home. He knows his stuff better than 90% of wanna-be architects out there and you know it. Those current IAC architects aren't even worthy of wiping BK's rear end.



So why don't you relax and apologize for your rude and uncalled for comment or else please STFU...kthankxbye!
 
[quote author="tkaratz" date=1249995953]locations before flood channels and air conditioning



Yes, confucious says, "better to build your home on high side of wok, since wok is made of high carbon steel. However, since one's home is likely built on soil and not steel, building ones home on a cliff could result in losing home in a landside and ancient chiness BS doesn't really apply".



Do me a favor, publish your real name and the firm you were laid off from so I never hire you to do a land plan. You're worse than the consultants that push LEED certification.</blockquote>




I guess you bought at the bottom of the wok.
 
This forum sure does illicit strong reactions... with AZDave pulling the "I quit because I can't defend myself" and now tkaratz getting grumpy on BK...



We all need an Internet Happy Box:



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[quote author="reason" date=1250029456]From smog to wok. I love IHB.</blockquote>
Hate to admit it, but all that talk of a wok by BK got me hungry...so much so that I'll pick up some pick'up'stix for lunch. haha
 
[quote author="tkaratz" date=1249995953]

Do me a favor, publish your real name and the firm you were laid off from so I never hire you to do a land plan. </blockquote>


Neither you nor I will ever have the kind of dough it takes for that to be an option. Problem solved.
 
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