Portola Springs - San Carlos

NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
thanks for the correction mediaboyz...



i got excited when i saw the specs ( 3 bedrooms...knew it was too good to be true).



Hopefully the price will adjust to that in few more months for the 3 bedroom unit at San Carlos.
 
51 Silverado

Plan DR - Lot 60 - $542,990

















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1,534 Square Feet, 3 Bedroom, 3 Baths, 2-Car Garage


KitchenAid® stainless steel appliances, Kohler® stainless steel double sink and Price Pfister™ pull out faucet, Laguna maple java stained cabinetry, surround sound pre-wiring, recessed lighting, upgraded kitchen countertops. Conveniently located near Silverado Park with junior Olympic size pool, tennis courts, basketball court, and activity room. Buyer chooses flooring.







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What the heck? Are you an employee of the builder? If not, isn't that a copyright infringement by using the builder's project name and design?
 
Geez... I dunno about working for the builder, but I am strongly suspect now. However, it could be just another bull/bag holder, who has defended the value of their home from going down. I mean, it is not new for a bull to change their name, er multiple times. Even if they so strongly believed in their position, then they shouldn't be so spineless, to not stay with the same name. How pathetic would that be, making it seem there are others who agree with them, even when they are only agreeing with themselves? I don't understand that, but then again, I have always been graph. Of course, some think I have never negotiated anything in my life, so I am probably just a nutter. Maybe, I don't truly understand <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2008/01/5-stages-of-mar.html">all the stages</a>.





<p>One of the most intriguing things I find about the market is how the collective psyche sometimes resembles a singular entity. In particular, I have been fascinated by the commentary we have heard from some quarters regarding deep and obvious flaws in the present macro environment. I spent a lot of time over the holidays (skeptically) reading commentary from various pundits. There was something strangely familiar in the absurdly erroneous observations, but I couldn't place my finger on what it was.</p>

<p>Until Friday. I don't know who or what actually triggered my memory, but it finally dawned on me what the parallel was: The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%83%C2%BCbler-Ross_model">Kübler-Ross model</a> of 5 stages of grief. </p>

<p>For those of you who never took any psych in college, that is the process by which us <em>humans </em>deal with grief and tragedy. It was introduced by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross in her 1969 book "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684839385/thebigpictu09-20">On Death and Dying</a>". This has become well-known as the "<em>Five Stages of Grief.</em>" They are:</p>

<p>1. Denial


2. Anger


3. Bargaining


4. Depression


5. Acceptance</p>

<p>Reviewing recent market commentary, it appears that the investors, traders and pundits alike have been working their way through each of these 5 stages. Consider:</p>

<p>>


<strong>1. <u>Denial</u></strong>: For the longest time, the consensus was that Housing issues wouldn't impact anything else. Classic denial was demonstrated by the insistence that first Housing, then the credit crunch, was "contained." </p>

<p>There has been a multi-step process for the deniers (denialists?). Initially, they insisted there was no housing slowdown. Then, any slowdown would not impact consumer spending or the broader economy. The 3rd denial step was that while it was no longer contained, any damage would be mild. The most recent denial was that while the Housing issue has been worse than previously believed, it is now fully reflected in stock prices. </p>

<p><em>Me thinks they doth protest too much.</em></p>

<p>We saw the same denial steps in inflation, consumer spending, and job creation. The denial transition went from: a) No slowdown; to b) Slowdown, but no impact; to c) Impact, but contained; to d) Broad impact already reflected in stock prices. </p>

<p>>


<strong>2. <u>Anger</u>:</strong> The details of this were personified by <a href="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/2007/08/cramer-pleads-f.html">Jim Cramer's now infamous Fed rant</a>. After spending the prior year discussing <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmt5_T2WAQc">that Housing was fine</a> (February 2007), and pointing out each <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5zAvh-iFfU">bounce in the home builders</a> (November 2006) was proof the Housing bottom was in, Cramer's incredible meltdown was stark evidence that the denial stage was over, and the classic anger stage was beginning.<strong> </strong></p>

<p>>


<strong>3. <u>Bargaining</u></strong>: I believe we are now at the bargaining stage. This is reflected in the increased expectations of a 50 bps rate cut (If the Fed cuts aggressively, stocks will be fine). Buying falling knives is a form of bargaining (If I avoid momentum plays and only buy cheap stocks, I'm okay). </p>

<p>Yet another example I've been seeing: "Invest Now in Anticipation of Recession Recovery."</p>
 
Graph, I think IR has talked about the 5 stages recently. I can't recall if it's an actual main blog post.....if not, it should be.
 
Graph - I think you correct, and I think some are sill in the denial stage, or a combination of the three. Check out the first post in the main blog today.
 
San Carlos - Residence B - Homesite 57




Timeless style and unbeatable value combine to present you with an impressive new townhome! You can even select upgraded flooring to give it your personal touch! Experience San Carlos at Portola Springs today before this opportunity passes you by!











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Approximately 1,166 square feet

2 bedrooms, 2.5 baths, 2-car garage

Maple java cabinetry throughout

KitchenAid stainless steel appliances

Granite kitchen countertops

Ceramic tile in master bath

Numerous electrical upgrades

Located across from Silverado Park & pool

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Sales Price: $436,990
 
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at Portola Springs


Irvine


Attached townhomes & condominiums


Approx. 1,040 - 1,617 sq. ft.


(949) 262-0875


Plan B


WAS FROM $514,990


LOT 57 NOW $461,990
 
That's awesome asian invasion. I've been looking at San Carlos when that unit was 561,500. Are you seeing any major drops on newer 2500 detached homes? or just the condos and townhomes.
 
This was in an email today. edit: Attachment below.





Also, Im curious why is that price 25k more now than 3 months ago? It is the same house right?
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I just went to look at these houses yesterday knowing nothing about them and found out the fun way that they are the same as the place in Woodbury that I live, haha.





I have a question for people who purchased or are interested in purchasing at Portola Springs. What motivates you to spend $419 per month for assessments (5029 a year)? It seems like a place with no or very little mello roos would allow for a larger purchase with the same money spent each month.
 
Just visited San Carlos again in Portola Springs. Looks like they are closing shop. They're planning on selling the inventory they have left as well as the models. That makes 2 properties now in portola springs that won't be completed.
 
2 properties as in 2 houses or 2 properties as in 2 tracts? what is the other one? Also, what are they planning to do with the space that was there? Wait to build until 2011 like Orchard Hills?



Also, does anyone happen to know how many they actually built out of the 152 they were planning to build?
 
Well, attached condos are NOT the easiest things to get loans for.



I would expect a few more years till the ranch sells those condo lots to the builders.
 
[quote author="24inIrvine" date=1213338955]2 properties as in 2 houses or 2 properties as in 2 tracts? what is the other one? Also, what are they planning to do with the space that was there? Wait to build until 2011 like Orchard Hills?



Also, does anyone happen to know how many they actually built out of the 152 they were planning to build?</blockquote>


The other tract in PS that is closing is Decada.
 
So what happens to the land that doesn't get built on? Do they try to sell it to another developer who is selling better in PS? do they just wait and will build out later? What do builders usually do?



Also, anyone know how many San Carlos homes actually got built out? The goal was 152. I was wondering if they even reached like half that number or what.
 
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