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jmoney74
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dethman said:
That's actually just BP. All PP homes followed American heritage style.
Pavilion Park
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That's actually just BP. All PP homes followed American heritage style.
I would like to add to the pro's and con's list and continue with AQUA
5) The neighborhood layout and street designs are completely fluid. Stop signs are strategic locate at main intersections only, and not hinders the traffic flows. For the most part residents are speed conscious inside the neighborhood There are multiples entry and exit points and after one live here awhile you will appreciate the clever design, You will take short cuts and avoid needless driving through every street to get to your house like all other design by older Irvine Pacific development. Streets and side walk are wider than any of the IP developments hence from the front of your door to the street is a good distance. When you have little kids this is a huge plus, because they are definitely faster than their parents. This is a great safety design in mind.
6) Main park design is like no other that I have seen. The planner and designer carefully craft the main park to be the focal point of the neighborhood and all of guess that visit your pad will be in awe and inspire. Irvine Pacific pocket parks is OK, Once you see a pocket park, they are all the same. some climb gyms for kiddies and swings set not really anything to brag about.
7) Elevation of the homes are handsome and unique. Most of the homes never look the same unlike Irvine Pacific neighborhood. Your friend and family will be able to uniquely identify your home without mistakes.
-8) The neighborhood anchors tree are jacaranda beautifully placed and the old, giant trees contrast against the new home is amazing.
9) Perhaps the biggest positive factor is neighbors in the area are extremely nice and welcome. Friendship made fast here in most cases.
10) School K- 8 is awesome and the Beacon Park Elementary Principal is hand pick. He did an amazing job. From the time that the school broke ground to completion, it took less than 9 months to build an amazing school, with great staffs. Now I understand the importance of Mello Roos. On the other hands, if you buy in Tustin School district, all those years that I paid Mello Roos, my kids did not benefit because they sent him to an old school built in the 70's.
11) We are not there yet, but when my kids get to high school Portola High will be the IT school of Irvine. That is a well spent tax money.
The con's list
4) The HOA - Nazi like governing the community. Most residents here care and love their homes. HOA enforcing rules NAZI like and sit you down for interrogation when they think you not comply with the timeline of landscaping rules. They lack of sympathy for residents and given unrealistic time to complete their project. In many cases, the same landscapers was working on 4 or 5 jobs at the same time on the same street. So you are at the mercy of the landscapers promise. In addition, HOA have to wake up and understand that there are literally thousands of homes popping up and they all require landscaping and landscapers are having a heck of a time keeping up.
5) Unnecessary fines issues, even when proof of works was sent.
6) HOA landscaping responsible area in many cases, home owner will just have their gardeners clean up since it in front of their house. Response is slow to address fixing. Perhaps because they are overwhelm with Beacon and Parasol. Still no excuse.
7) Architect review process is quite long before you get any feedback. Then again, there is only 1 person that reviews all of the plans.
So there is the list. Once residents here complete their landscaping and not under the scrutiny, NAZI like HOA, life is great here. It is just like their slogan " Life Will Be Different Here."
It was a simple process unless you are trying to do something odd. I hired a landscaper that was very familiar and looked over PP's guidelines.. got it approved.. built.. then got final approval.
Same here.. Hard scape was not an issue,the only issues we ever faced (rejected twice) was because of "low watering plants" in the draught climate. At the end we just gave up showed we are going to put rose plants and were done with it and got it approved. Of course within 2 months we reverted back to what we initially planned
exactly! Some things just aren't worth fighting for.
You mean the HOA did not want low water type plants? And is that for the front yard only? I'm gonna be doing a backyard soon and want to prepare for the hassle.
That's good to know. I was thinking of going for some kind of "exotic" desert look in the back yard. Wouldn't want to clash with HOA over that.
That's actually just BP. All PP homes followed American heritage style.
irvinebullhousing
Well-known member
aquabliss said:
I would like to add to the pro's and con's list and continue with AQUA
5) The neighborhood layout and street designs are completely fluid. Stop signs are strategic locate at main intersections only, and not hinders the traffic flows. For the most part residents are speed conscious inside the neighborhood There are multiples entry and exit points and after one live here awhile you will appreciate the clever design, You will take short cuts and avoid needless driving through every street to get to your house like all other design by older Irvine Pacific development. Streets and side walk are wider than any of the IP developments hence from the front of your door to the street is a good distance. When you have little kids this is a huge plus, because they are definitely faster than their parents. This is a great safety design in mind.
6) Main park design is like no other that I have seen. The planner and designer carefully craft the main park to be the focal point of the neighborhood and all of guess that visit your pad will be in awe and inspire. Irvine Pacific pocket parks is OK, Once you see a pocket park, they are all the same. some climb gyms for kiddies and swings set not really anything to brag about.
7) Elevation of the homes are handsome and unique. Most of the homes never look the same unlike Irvine Pacific neighborhood. Your friend and family will be able to uniquely identify your home without mistakes.
-8) The neighborhood anchors tree are jacaranda beautifully placed and the old, giant trees contrast against the new home is amazing.
9) Perhaps the biggest positive factor is neighbors in the area are extremely nice and welcome. Friendship made fast here in most cases.
10) School K- 8 is awesome and the Beacon Park Elementary Principal is hand pick. He did an amazing job. From the time that the school broke ground to completion, it took less than 9 months to build an amazing school, with great staffs. Now I understand the importance of Mello Roos. On the other hands, if you buy in Tustin School district, all those years that I paid Mello Roos, my kids did not benefit because they sent him to an old school built in the 70's.
11) We are not there yet, but when my kids get to high school Portola High will be the IT school of Irvine. That is a well spent tax money.
The con's list
4) The HOA - Nazi like governing the community. Most residents here care and love their homes. HOA enforcing rules NAZI like and sit you down for interrogation when they think you not comply with the timeline of landscaping rules. They lack of sympathy for residents and given unrealistic time to complete their project. In many cases, the same landscapers was working on 4 or 5 jobs at the same time on the same street. So you are at the mercy of the landscapers promise. In addition, HOA have to wake up and understand that there are literally thousands of homes popping up and they all require landscaping and landscapers are having a heck of a time keeping up.
5) Unnecessary fines issues, even when proof of works was sent.
6) HOA landscaping responsible area in many cases, home owner will just have their gardeners clean up since it in front of their house. Response is slow to address fixing. Perhaps because they are overwhelm with Beacon and Parasol. Still no excuse.
7) Architect review process is quite long before you get any feedback. Then again, there is only 1 person that reviews all of the plans.
So there is the list. Once residents here complete their landscaping and not under the scrutiny, NAZI like HOA, life is great here. It is just like their slogan " Life Will Be Different Here."
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
"Nazi like HOA"
PP is not qwerfriendly.
PP is not qwerfriendly.
Hi... I don't live there but as a family person, I feel to get kids to the common park you need to get your car out(most places) which is a inconvenience. People from PP comes to BP as park is good but again you need car usually. It's my thoughts only and again I don't live there. I prefer park which is walkable.
irvinehomeowner
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The PP park is walkable from most tracts in PP.
I like pocket parks too, that is one thing missing from the 5P hoods.
I like pocket parks too, that is one thing missing from the 5P hoods.
irvinebullhousing
Well-known member
While there is some space in the PP that can utilize and transform into pocket parks, the vision of 5P is that the main park encourage residents to congregate at a central location and be-friend with one another. This build a great communities with homeowners knowing one and another. While this is true on all aspects, FCB tendencies to be secluded. Some FCB are never here, and that is perfectly fine with me.
Pocket parks is still a nice features to have along with the main park. PP and BP are strategically locate in each of the neighborhood so residents does not have to get in the car and drive, it is completely walkable. However, I am a true Californian and I often use my cars even for a short drive. Bad habit hard to break.
Pocket parks is still a nice features to have along with the main park. PP and BP are strategically locate in each of the neighborhood so residents does not have to get in the car and drive, it is completely walkable. However, I am a true Californian and I often use my cars even for a short drive. Bad habit hard to break.
Seems like once u get approval from Hoa for initial landscape is it no longer an issue?? Many yards now are a little messy so I guess once u pass no more fines?? Does anyone have any insight as to how strict after initial landscape approval if grass or flowers die?? Some people are getting Hefty monthly fines for landscape.
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jmoney74
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renter1 said:
It was a simple process unless you are trying to do something odd. I hired a landscaper that was very familiar and looked over PP's guidelines.. got it approved.. built.. then got final approval.
jmoney74 said:
Same here.. Hard scape was not an issue,the only issues we ever faced (rejected twice) was because of "low watering plants" in the draught climate. At the end we just gave up showed we are going to put rose plants and were done with it and got it approved. Of course within 2 months we reverted back to what we initially planned
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jmoney74
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kapee94 said:jmoney74 said:
Same here.. Hard scape was not an issue,the only issues we ever faced (rejected twice) was because of "low watering plants" in the draught climate. At the end we just gave up showed we are going to put rose plants and were done with it and got it approved. Of course within 2 months we reverted back to what we initially planned
exactly! Some things just aren't worth fighting for.
irvineshadow
New member
kapee94 said:jmoney74 said:
Same here.. Hard scape was not an issue,the only issues we ever faced (rejected twice) was because of "low watering plants" in the draught climate. At the end we just gave up showed we are going to put rose plants and were done with it and got it approved. Of course within 2 months we reverted back to what we initially planned
You mean the HOA did not want low water type plants? And is that for the front yard only? I'm gonna be doing a backyard soon and want to prepare for the hassle.
irvineshadow
New member
aquabliss said:
That's good to know. I was thinking of going for some kind of "exotic" desert look in the back yard. Wouldn't want to clash with HOA over that.
You mean the HOA did not want low water type plants? And is that for the front yard only? I'm gonna be doing a backyard soon and want to prepare for the hassle.
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We had other plants which were not low watering hence we had to swap them out for low watering plants. As soon as we got approved we swapped it back. I don't think HOA cares....
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We had other plants which were not low watering hence we had to swap them out for low watering plants. As soon as we got approved we swapped it back. I don't think HOA cares....