Observations from the front lines of the Irvine housing market?

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Attached is the data for both June and July 2020. The data now confirms that the market has strengthened since the end of May as we saw the huge increase in July sales along with the fact that as of today (August 9th) there are now 396 Irvine properties in escrow which is up 111 homes or 39% from June 15th.

Sales in June 2020 were 190 or about 26% lower than June 2019 but that was because the market had began picking up in May and there's a lag between the pick-up and when sales actually close which we saw in July. The median price per SF dipped down to $471 in June from May 2020 and June 2019 but that seems to be a function of almost 170 of the closed sales being properties priced $1m or lower. Inventory at the end of June 2020 was actually down from May 2020 from 752 to 719 and down almost 30% from June 2019. The lower end of the market continued to have a serious lack of inventory.

Sales in July 2020 of 260 homes had a huge increase from June 2020 and was flat with sales in July 2019. The median price per SF rose back up to $479 in July from June 2020 and was up slightly from July 2019 ($477/sf). Inventory levels saw a large increase in July 2020 from June 2020 as sellers became more comfortable in listing their homes in July (probably due to the strengthening market) but these inventory levels were still down over 21% from July 2020.

I've been seeing a lot of strength in the market in the past month especially with properties going into escrow at a faster pace, including more multiple counteroffer situations. Lower rates are bringing more and more buyers into the market but there's a lack of inventory and that's leading to price increases. There seems to be a certain confidence amongst buyers that the worst man be over on the economic front and their jobs are safe. Many buyers are looking to upgrade their homes, including wanting a yard and/or office space to work from home. The pace of sales has also benefited the home builders in Irvine with increased sales at the CalPac and IrvinePac sales offices in Portola Springs and Orchard Hills.

On the interest rate front, rates continue to bleed lower especially in the conforming and jumbo conforming loan products. Buyers can now get 30-year purchase rates around 2.75% if they have strong credit and are putting 20-25% down. Jumbo 30-year rates are a bit higher around 3%. I've had a few buyers that opted to put slightly higher down payments so they can get to the jumbo conforming loan limit because it saved them 1/4% to 3/8% on their interest rate.

It'll be interesting to see how the rest of the summer going into the election plays out. I remember in 2016 the market had slowed down a bit due to the uncertainty related to the elections so it'll be interesting to see if this happens again this year. For now, the market looks to be very firm and good properties go into escrow very fast.
 

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Back in 2018, my renter said he sold his house & began renting because he was waiting for real estate to crater.  He signed a 1 year lease.
Guess who's still renting my house?
 
zubs said:
Back in 2018, my renter said he sold his house & began renting because he was waiting for real estate to crater.  He signed a 1 year lease.
Guess who's still renting my house?

Irvine real estate would crater?  Uhhhh yeah, no so much. I have a friend who bought an attached condo in 2011 and was looking to upgrade in 2014 but told me that he'd wait until prices came down 10%.  Despite me offering him up first crack at my listings before they hit the market, he refused and said that he'd wait until there was a price decline. Well, he's still waiting for that price decline after prices are up 15-20% since 2014 while his wife is irritated. haha
 
Irvinecommuter said:
The market is insanely hot for sellers....the drop in interest rates in the last two weeks took it from a good to crazy seller's market.

Yup, especially in the sub $800k-$900k price range since there's so little inventory. There were a few small 3-bed homes detached homes in Tustin Ranch that got 10-15 offers each and will close well above their asking prices (so high that buyers will have to come out of pocket to cover appraisal shortfalls).
 
Where is Liars Loans and all the downers for SoCal Realestate went to?

I guess they still in the bunkers waiting for the crash to happen, it?s been quiet from them for along time. Oh well, maybe a year or two, then they will comes out from their closets. :)
 
Didn't always agree with Liar Loan, but wasn't part of his argument about relative value?

I remember part of his argument was to invest elsewhere (like stocks) and buy RE during the down cycle.

Even if you go back 2 years to 2018 like Zubs said. S&P 500 index has gone up 18%. NASDAQ index has gone up 37%. Irvine RE hasn't surpassed 2018 peak sqft prices.

 
I used to believe in cycles.


Until the FED pulled out and keeping pulling out all kinds of rabbits from the magic hats. The markets should have crashed and stay crash. Now all assets not only prop-up, it balloons to an unprecedented levels while main street suffer vastly.


So when is this going to pop?

When IF Biden / Harris occupies the WH?
 
Kenkoko said:
Didn't always agree with Liar Loan, but wasn't part of his argument about relative value?

I remember part of his argument was to invest elsewhere (like stocks) and buy RE during the down cycle.

Even if you go back 2 years to 2018 like Zubs said. S&P 500 index has gone up 18%. NASDAQ index has gone up 37%. Irvine RE hasn't surpassed 2018 peak sqft prices.

Prices in the lower end of the market are at or slightly above 2018 peak prices today, the higher end not so much. I would venture to bet that the rental home that he sold earlier is worth more today than what he sold it for because even the IE is seeing bidding wars (I was out with a client looking at homes in Corona and kept running into multiple offer situations...Corona of all places).  haha
 
Compressed-Village said:
I used to believe in cycles.


Until the FED pulled out and keeping pulling out all kinds of rabbits from the magic hats. The markets should have crashed and stay crash. Now all assets not only prop-up, it balloons to an unprecedented levels while main street suffer vastly.


So when is this going to pop?

When IF Biden / Harris occupies the WH?

If we haven't learned during the 2008 financial crisis, we definitely learned not to fight the FED this go around. They can throw more money at downturns than any of us can imagine, it's basically as easy as typing "0"s on a keyboard. Print baby print.  haha
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
zubs said:
Back in 2018, my renter said he sold his house & began renting because he was waiting for real estate to crater.  He signed a 1 year lease.
Guess who's still renting my house?

Irvine real estate would crater?  Uhhhh yeah, no so much. I have a friend who bought an attached condo in 2011 and was looking to upgrade in 2014 but told me that he'd wait until prices came down 10%.  Despite me offering him up first crack at my listings before they hit the market, he refused and said that he'd wait until there was a price decline. Well, he's still waiting for that price decline after prices are up 15-20% since 2014 while his wife is irritated. haha

Where is Liar Loan?

If USC isn't Team Irvine... then I'm not either. :)
 
Any updates from the trenches?  I ask because inventory around me is exploding.  Have not seen this many SFRs for sale in years...maybe not since 2008-2012.  But that's my zip code.  1 zip code over, where houses are cheaper, it's a different story.  Inventory is about as tight as it has been for the past several years.
 
daedalus said:
Any updates from the trenches?  I ask because inventory around me is exploding.  Have not seen this many SFRs for sale in years...maybe not since 2008-2012.  But that's my zip code.  1 zip code over, where houses are cheaper, it's a different story.  Inventory is about as tight as it has been for the past several years.

I'm pulling the numbers together for August and will post it up later on today. From what I see there is still a lack of inventory into the sub $1m in Irvine and a ton in the $1.5m+ market but the higher end of the market has picked up a bit over the past few months.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
daedalus said:
Any updates from the trenches?  I ask because inventory around me is exploding.  Have not seen this many SFRs for sale in years...maybe not since 2008-2012.  But that's my zip code.  1 zip code over, where houses are cheaper, it's a different story.  Inventory is about as tight as it has been for the past several years.

I'm pulling the numbers together for August and will post it up later on today. From what I see there is still a lack of inventory into the sub $1m in Irvine and a ton in the $1.5m+ market but the higher end of the market has picked up a bit over the past few months.

Look forward to your post. By higher end, do you mean 2m+ and 2.5m+ market?
 
talkirvine said:
USCTrojanCPA said:
daedalus said:
Any updates from the trenches?  I ask because inventory around me is exploding.  Have not seen this many SFRs for sale in years...maybe not since 2008-2012.  But that's my zip code.  1 zip code over, where houses are cheaper, it's a different story.  Inventory is about as tight as it has been for the past several years.

I'm pulling the numbers together for August and will post it up later on today. From what I see there is still a lack of inventory into the sub $1m in Irvine and a ton in the $1.5m+ market but the higher end of the market has picked up a bit over the past few months.

Look forward to your post. By higher end, do you mean 2m+ and 2.5m+ market?

I classify the high end of the market in Irvine as $1.5m+
 
Attached is the data for August 2020. The data shows that the market is strengthening with increasing sales, lower inventory, and now an increase in the median price per square foot. As of this morning (Sept. 17th) there are now 422 Irvine properties in escrow which is up 26 homes or 7% from August 9th.

Sales in August 2020 were 298 or about 9% higher than August 2019 as the increased number of homes in escrow continued to close. The median price per SF increased from $479 in July 2020 and $480 in August 2019 to $485 in August 20202 and that is despite the % of homes under $1m increasing from July to August. This indicates that there have been material price increases in the lower end of the market. An example of that is my listing at 128 Coralwood which will close over 5% above the model match closed comp that closed less than 2 months ago. Inventory at the end of August 2020 was down slightly from July 2020 from 764 to 758 and down almost 25% from August 2019. Not only does the lower end of the market continue to have a serious lack of inventory but now this lack of inventory is spreading into the middle market.

The strength that I?ve been seeing in the past few months has continued to grow and has now even gotten into the higher end of the market (I had 2 higher end buyers that purchased homes over $1.5m in August) which we see over at Cetara at Orchard Hills. Many of my buyers in the lower end and middle of the market continue to see multiple counter offer situations where homes are trading above very recent closed comps as there is stiff competition for good homes. Rates continue to stay low and I have this feeling that not only do buyers have buyer fatigue of getting out bid but also I?m sensing a bit of the low interest rate FOMO from these buyers. Home builders continue to see strong sales with many released lots selling quickly.

On the interest rate front, rates continue to stay low especially in the conforming and jumbo conforming loan products where rates are around 2.75%. Jumbo 30-year purchase rates around 3% if they have strong credit and are putting 20-25% down and there is plenty of lenders that offer these loans. One of my investor clients was even able to get a 3% 30-year fixed purchase loan (conforming loan) to purchase a rental property with 25% last month. I have heard from a few lenders that purchase loans are now taking about 30-35 days due to the high loan volume.

As of today (Sept. 16th), there have been 158 closed sales in September. With the number of homes in escrow being so high currently, we are on pace to break the record number of monthly sales of 306 in July 2015 this month. If inventory decrease or remain this low you can expect further price increases, more so in the lower end of the market where there are a higher number of buyers.
 

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USCTrojanCPA said:
Attached is the data for August 2020. The data shows that the market is strengthening with increasing sales, lower inventory, and now an increase in the median price per square foot. As of this morning (Sept. 17th) there are now 422 Irvine properties in escrow which is up 26 homes or 7% from August 9th.

Sales in August 2020 were 298 or about 9% higher than August 2019 as the increased number of homes in escrow continued to close. The median price per SF increased from $479 in July 2020 and $480 in August 2019 to $485 in August 20202 and that is despite the % of homes under $1m increasing from July to August. This indicates that there have been material price increases in the lower end of the market. An example of that is my listing at 128 Coralwood which will close over 5% above the model match closed comp that closed less than 2 months ago. Inventory at the end of August 2020 was down slightly from July 2020 from 764 to 758 and down almost 25% from August 2019. Not only does the lower end of the market continue to have a serious lack of inventory but now this lack of inventory is spreading into the middle market.

The strength that I?ve been seeing in the past few months has continued to grow and has now even gotten into the higher end of the market (I had 2 higher end buyers that purchased homes over $1.5m in August) which we see over at Cetara at Orchard Hills. Many of my buyers in the lower end and middle of the market continue to see multiple counter offer situations where homes are trading above very recent closed comps as there is stiff competition for good homes. Rates continue to stay low and I have this feeling that not only do buyers have buyer fatigue of getting out bid but also I?m sensing a bit of the low interest rate FOMO from these buyers. Home builders continue to see strong sales with many released lots selling quickly.

On the interest rate front, rates continue to stay low especially in the conforming and jumbo conforming loan products where rates are around 2.75%. Jumbo 30-year purchase rates around 3% if they have strong credit and are putting 20-25% down and there is plenty of lenders that offer these loans. One of my investor clients was even able to get a 3% 30-year fixed purchase loan (conforming loan) to purchase a rental property with 25% last month. I have heard from a few lenders that purchase loans are now taking about 30-35 days due to the high loan volume.

As of today (Sept. 16th), there have been 158 closed sales in September. With the number of homes in escrow being so high currently, we are on pace to break the record number of monthly sales of 306 in July 2015 this month. If inventory decrease or remain this low you can expect further price increases, more so in the lower end of the market where there are a higher number of buyers.

WOW this is incredible. Comparison with other parts of the OC will be interesting, this cant be unique to Irvine.  Secondly, now as most of us are confined into our homes, so whoever can afford a bigger place are going for it with lower interest rates. We are also looking to buy 5 bed
 
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