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The SFH in GP , already doubled from 2016.
Chinese mainland buyers have driven this ridiculous appreciation. Last 4 or 5 phrases of Fresco which have about 30 homes are 90% purchased by them. Every new resale homes popped up in my hood is immediately snatched by them.

Unfortunately there are a lot of these buyers. Just .01% of 1.5 billion of them are still way too many for irvine. 😔

New laws are needed to stop the bleedings for local buyers here. It’s not right.
 
Chinese mainland buyers have driven this ridiculous appreciation. Last 4 or 5 phrases of Fresco which have about 30 homes are 90% purchased by them. Every new resale homes popped up in my hood is immediately snatched by them.

Unfortunately there are a lot of these buyers. Just .01% of 1.5 billion of them are still way too many for irvine. 😔

New laws are needed to stop the bleedings for local buyers here. It’s not right.
What's defined as a "local buyer"? These FCBs can easily buy their green cards and obtain US citizenship if they wanted. Some probably already have US citizenship.
 
What do you think local mean?
Dumb question.
Sleepy is right on this one. A lot of these FCBs are US citizens. The ones that bought across from my current home, for example, is such a case. They stay in China because their kids are young, but they are US citizens. It's just like that article was saying, they buy the homes and wait for their kids to reach school age before moving here. In fact, the one across from me is renting out their home to other Chinese citizens who come here to give birth. We already saw two different families doing that.
 
Sleepy is right on this one. A lot of these FCBs are US citizens. The ones that bought across from my current home, for example, is such a case. They stay in China because their kids are young, but they are US citizens. It's just like that article was saying, they buy the homes and wait for their kids to reach school age before moving here. In fact, the one across from me is renting out their home to other Chinese citizens who come here to give birth. We already saw two different families doing that.

So they are not local. Just because they have US citizen label doesnt make them native here. I am talking about people who grow up and live in S. California and cant even afford a house with decent incomes.
 
So they are not local. Just because they have US citizen label doesnt make them native here. I am talking about people who grow up and live in S. California and cant even afford a house with decent incomes.
What about people who want to move here from other states? Can't do that either? Or the ones that graduate from UCI and want to stay here? They're not local either, right?
 
What about people who want to move here from other states? Can't do that either? Or the ones that graduate from UCI and want to stay here? They're not local either, right?

Unfortunately that’s how capitalism works. I wish there was a law that requires home buyers living here for at least 2-3 years but it’s wishful thinking.

I know you are about to sell your Bluff so you are little bias for maximum profit but trust me, such a law will be good for your son and his kids in the future.
 
Unfortunately that’s how capitalism works. I wish there was a law that requires home buyers living here for at least 2-3 years but it’s wishful thinking.

I know you are about to sell your Bluff so you are little bias for maximum profit but trust me, such a law will be good for your son and his kids in the future.
Anyone can live in Irvine for 2-3 years and then buy a home. I don't see how your proposal would fix the issue.
 
Irvine real estate is so crazy right now... I've seen some homes sell for almost double than what they were just 10 years ago... and this is in millions not hundreds of thousands.

I've looked back at previous homes I've owned and sold and the appreciation is ridiculous.

So much pain in Irvine. :)
What are you talking about? LL says you are losing money according to his excel line graphs. You are all losing money!
 
Unfortunately that’s how capitalism works. I wish there was a law that requires home buyers living here for at least 2-3 years but it’s wishful thinking.

I know you are about to sell your Bluff so you are little bias for maximum profit but trust me, such a law will be good for your son and his kids in the future.
Ironically Chinese cities have these rules such as using “Hukou” to decide who can buy and who cannot…
 
Anyone can live in Irvine for 2-3 years and then buy a home. I don't see how your proposal would fix the issue.
How do cities enforce no short term rentals?

If you dont try it, how do you it wont work? How do you propose fixing the problem?
I have owned my home for about 2 years and it has appreciated more than $1 million. Something is very wrong with that.
 
Unfortunately that’s how capitalism works. I wish there was a law that requires home buyers living here for at least 2-3 years but it’s wishful thinking.

I know you are about to sell your Bluff so you are little bias for maximum profit but trust me, such a law will be good for your son and his kids in the future.
Actually, I'm with you on that. I don't want the neighborhood to be full of renters either. I even brought up the idea of charging higher property taxes for out of state buyers who buy these homes as investment properties. In fact, just make it investment properties, period. The $7000 discount for residents is way too little.
 
How do cities enforce no short term rentals?

If you dont try it, how do you it wont work? How do you propose fixing the problem?
I have owned my home for about 2 years and it has appreciated more than $1 million. Something is very wrong with that.
STR are probably enforced from neighbor complaint. In the newer HOA communities, HOA tends to enforce it as it clearly states no STR.

How would I fix the problem? It would include changes to how one can obtain citizenship. I don't think that one should be able to "buy" their way to citizenship. Once no one can buy their way to citizenship, ban foreign ownership of US real estate. Only US Citizens can buy US real estate. In addition, there could also be something along the lines of buyers not being able to compete against FTHB besides FTHB. Meaning once an offer for a FTHB is submitted, only FTHB(s) can compete with each other for the home. Investors competing with FTHB(s) is quite ridiculous and unfair. Taxing is another alternative but no matter how much you tax, the homes are always going to be significantly cheaper here in the states compared to China.

Keep in mind just because the US is a capitalist economy, it doesn't mean we can't have laws for checks and balances. The recent ruling regarding buyers commissions is a good example of that and it will be interesting to see what happens with buyers agent commissions going forward.
 
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STR are probably enforced from neighbor complaint. In the newer HOA communities, HOA tends to enforce it as it clearly states no STR.

How would I fix the problem? It would include changes to how one can obtain citizenship. I don't think that one should be able to "buy" their way to citizenship. Once no one can buy their way to citizenship, ban foreign ownership of US real estate. Only US Citizens can buy US real estate. In addition, there could also be something along the lines of buyers not being able to compete against FTHB besides FTHB. Meaning once an offer for a FTHB is submitted, only FTHB(s) can compete with each other for the home. Investors competing with FTHB(s) is quite ridiculous and unfair. Taxing is another alternative but no matter how much you tax, the homes are always going to be significantly cheaper here in the states compared to China.

Keep in mind just because the US is a capitalist economy, it doesn't mean we can't have laws for checks and balances. The recent ruling regarding buyers commissions is a good example of that and it will be interesting to see what happens with buyers agent commissions going forward.
Path to citizenship or simply anything about immigration reform is way bigger than Irvine housing price. We are living in a country where estimated 22m people are not documented.
 
Path to citizenship or simply anything about immigration reform is way bigger than Irvine housing price. We are living in a country where estimated 22m people are not documented.
The proposals that I have are not to fix Irvine housing prices. The point is to ban foreign investors from obtaining US real estate.
 
The proposals that I have are not to fix Irvine housing prices. The point is to ban foreign investors from obtaining US real estate.
Foreign individual or any foreign entity? What if a U.S. investment firm is working on behalf of foreign owner? I understand where you are from and your good intention, just that any policy can have loophole plus unintended consequences, and I never believed in any silver bullets. From a long term view, if US is going down the trajectory of European countries 60%+ of the population eventually become renters - because housing will become out of reach for the majority.
 
What are you talking about? LL says you are losing money according to his excel line graphs. You are all losing money!
So true! Your parents are losing money on their investment, and all they have to show for it is a sniveling kid that posts on TI to cry about it. 😢

From April 2022 - April 2024:
CPI Inflation - 8.45%

Irvine $1,430 -->$1,524 (6.57% increase minus 8.45% inflation = 1.88% LOSS)
Orange County $1,070 -->$1,185 (10.75% increase minus 8.45% inflation = 2.30% GAIN!)


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