irviniteeee
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I remember there were a few homes like that in Turtle Ridge back in the day. People bought in the tract with the largest homes they had, and sat bare like the one you sent above for years. Crazy.
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It seems like Shea did change out some materials inside the Cielo model homes when they took over from IP such as the plumbing fixtures, thermostats, light switches and fixtures that Shea typically uses in their other home communities.
I'm surprised that Shea is charging extra for CAT6 wiring for the whole house which a lot of builders offer as standard now.
Less cookie-cutter is still cookie cutter homes so thanks again for letting me know i'm right. I didn't say market will not dictate pricing, I asked if you would buy a 3.58M cookie cutter home. You didn't seem to answer the question but if I were to guess I'm sure you wouldn't. So thank you again for letting me know I'm right about how insane the pricing is in PS
Because PS is not 15-20 further from the 5 or 405 compared to any of the newer villages that are east of the 5. And ALL of the newer villages are tract homes that have a bit of a cookie-cutter feel. What village doesn't have any cookie-cutter feel? Even Hidden Canyon is guilty of that, and you know what those prices are like.
You said you prefer GP over PS. That's not cookie-cutter? Drive down Modjeska, near Irvine Blvd. Drive down Bosque, near Great Park Blvd. Let me know if that's not cookie-cutter. And Cadence Park ES to Kaiser Sand Canyon is 10 mins away...so only a 6 min difference.
If that 3.58M property has a view, and I had the $$, I wouldn't rule it out at all.
When did I ever say the other villages are not cookie cutter? If you’ve been following my posts I have never been fond of Irvine and their cookie cutter homes that sell for 2.5m+. What I said was PS is the most inconveniently located out of all the villages. Don’t only go after me, a couple of others have said the same exact thing as well dude.
Oh did we also forget how PS is located in a fire hazard zone and GP/EW/CP are not? So you’re telling me you would pay a premium only to have the house have a higher chance of being burned down in the future? 3.58m well spent right
It's a whole 4 mins faster to the 5/405!..plus people there have been complaining about American Asphalt for years. GP? You must love double (and annually increasing) MR. CV is central, but the haters will tell you it's TOO close to the freeway and will cite studies to prove their point. I lived in CV for 5 years, liked it for the conveniences, but like PS more.
So you say you "have never been fond of Irvine". Why are you on TI then? Nobody is stopping you from starting a 'Talk Corona' or 'Talk Long Beach' or some other website if you don't like Irvine.
Living in PS now and decide to upgrade to our next home in PS again just because we love the community here much more than CV or GP. Im sure there are people like us Not everyone weight "freeway convenience" the most when choosing houses.
Your last comment is a weak one and also completely unrelated to the discussion.
If one normally doesn’t go out of Irvine, yeah it’s not a big deal. However, if you travel out of Irvine often, it can be a deal breaker as it’s probably longer than 15-20 mins with trafffic. What about the fact it’s in an area where it’s prone for fires? Not everyone is willing to drop 2.5M+ to potentially have it burn down in the future.
As for the pricing of Fiore, I'm expecting Plan 1 to be $1.6M-$1.7M and Plan 2 to be around $1.8M. The reason it can price as high, or almost as high as Arbor, is that Arbor priority list is already closed. So if you want to be a detached condo this size, you have to choice but to go with Fiore. This is the same reason Azul can sell as high as Cielo, even though it's much smaller than Cielo, because Cielo priority list is already closed as well.
sleepy5136
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They did the same for Cetara and Teresina. They aren’t playing.
Cetara and Teresina layouts were much better than some of Shea's previous home designs like the Padova homes at OH which were not that great. At least they are much better in terms of quality and design than builders like KB, Taylor Morrison and Lennar.
It seems like Shea did change out some materials inside the Cielo model homes when they took over from IP such as the plumbing fixtures, thermostats, light switches and fixtures that Shea typically uses in their other home communities.
CalBears96
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We loved IP's Cielo layout, so we were really happy Shea didn't get a chance to make changes to the layouts. I would have preferred the Nest thermostats and the Lutron switches and fixtures. The other thing I don't like is that CAT6 wiring to all the rooms won't be standard. Only one CAT6 outlet at Great Room is standard.
sleepy5136
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Aren't one of the floor plans for Cielo where you first walk in and the first thing you see are stairs in the middle of the home? That really bugged me and threw me off. Like why would IP think that putting a staircase as the first thing one sees when entering a home is appealing?
Also the second floor hallways to other bedrooms are so narrow and small for a 2.6M+ home. Not to mention the 36 inch fridges instead of 48 inch.
Also the second floor hallways to other bedrooms are so narrow and small for a 2.6M+ home. Not to mention the 36 inch fridges instead of 48 inch.
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irvinehomeowner
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I just looked at the floor plans... it's when the stairs lead out the doorway that people consider this non-Feng Shui. None of the plans are configured that way.
I agree the Nest thermostats were much better than the Honeywell thermostats that Shea is offering now. Not sure why they got rid of the Lutron switches as Lutron is one of the best lighting systems in the industry and works really well.
I'm surprised that Shea is charging extra for CAT6 wiring for the whole house which a lot of builders offer as standard now.
CalBears96
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Their reasoning is that they put 2 in ceiling WiFi access points that supposedly covers the entire house. It costs $170 for each CAT6 outlet, or you can choose 4 outlets for $536.
segalduster
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anyone check out the new Fiore openings today? wondering how much traffic they will get!
sleepy5136
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Thanks for letting me know I'm right. I said 15-20mins to 405/5 freeway.
Less cookie-cutter is still cookie cutter homes so thanks again for letting me know i'm right. I didn't say market will not dictate pricing, I asked if you would buy a 3.58M cookie cutter home. You didn't seem to answer the question but if I were to guess I'm sure you wouldn't. So thank you again for letting me know I'm right about how insane the pricing is in PS
paydawg
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Again - this goes back to my original question that you've yet to answer. What are the 'other villages' that you're referring to?
Because PS is not 15-20 further from the 5 or 405 compared to any of the newer villages that are east of the 5. And ALL of the newer villages are tract homes that have a bit of a cookie-cutter feel. What village doesn't have any cookie-cutter feel? Even Hidden Canyon is guilty of that, and you know what those prices are like.
You said you prefer GP over PS. That's not cookie-cutter? Drive down Modjeska, near Irvine Blvd. Drive down Bosque, near Great Park Blvd. Let me know if that's not cookie-cutter. And Cadence Park ES to Kaiser Sand Canyon is 10 mins away...so only a 6 min difference.
If that 3.58M property has a view, and I had the $$, I wouldn't rule it out at all.
CalBears96
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Unlike New Home Company, Shea just want to move homes. They didn't raise prices on Arbor either, just like Cielo, and all the Arbor homes are sold out. I believe that all Cielo homes are also sold since sales lady was busy yesterday and today, meeting with buyers to sign reservation package.
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sleepy5136
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Cypress Village, Eastwood, GP, etc are all better located and closer to the 5/405 than PS. I said PS is 15-20mins away from the 405/5.
When did I ever say the other villages are not cookie cutter? If you’ve been following my posts I have never been fond of Irvine and their cookie cutter homes that sell for 2.5m+. What I said was PS is the most inconveniently located out of all the villages. Don’t only go after me, a couple of others have said the same exact thing as well dude.
Oh did we also forget how PS is located in a fire hazard zone and GP/EW/CP are not? So you’re telling me you would pay a premium only to have the house have a higher chance of being burned down in the future? 3.58m well spent right
paydawg
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Eastwood??Cypress Village, Eastwood, GP, etc are all better located and closer to the 5/405 than PS. I said PS is 15-20mins away from the 405/5.
When did I ever say the other villages are not cookie cutter? If you’ve been following my posts I have never been fond of Irvine and their cookie cutter homes that sell for 2.5m+. What I said was PS is the most inconveniently located out of all the villages. Don’t only go after me, a couple of others have said the same exact thing as well dude.
Oh did we also forget how PS is located in a fire hazard zone and GP/EW/CP are not? So you’re telling me you would pay a premium only to have the house have a higher chance of being burned down in the future? 3.58m well spent right
It's a whole 4 mins faster to the 5/405!..plus people there have been complaining about American Asphalt for years. GP? You must love double (and annually increasing) MR. CV is central, but the haters will tell you it's TOO close to the freeway and will cite studies to prove their point. I lived in CV for 5 years, liked it for the conveniences, but like PS more. So you say you "have never been fond of Irvine". Why are you on TI then? Nobody is stopping you from starting a 'Talk Corona' or 'Talk Long Beach' or some other website if you don't like Irvine.
irvineblue
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Same here i used to live in CV for over 5 years it's convenient but didn't like it much. liEastwood??
So you say you "have never been fond of Irvine". Why are you on TI then? Nobody is stopping you from starting a 'Talk Corona' or 'Talk Long Beach' or some other website if you don't like Irvine.
Living in PS now and decide to upgrade to our next home in PS again just because we love the community here much more than CV or GP. Im sure there are people like us Not everyone weight "freeway convenience" the most when choosing houses.
Portolaresident
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Arbor's floor plans are larger and better than Fiore and the location is also better, the community seems to be more popular than Fiore too. Wonder how that's going to affect the pricing of Fiore by CalPac now.
sleepy5136
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I find it funny how you haven’t found any of my claims to be false but instead you try to change the argument and start talking about MR, close to freeway, asphalt, etc. all points that I have never brought up and does not defeat the fact that PS is still poorly located compared to the villages I mentioned. Not to forget it’s in an area prone to fires. Thanks again for indirectly letting me know I’m rightEastwood??
So you say you "have never been fond of Irvine". Why are you on TI then? Nobody is stopping you from starting a 'Talk Corona' or 'Talk Long Beach' or some other website if you don't like Irvine.
Your last comment is a weak one and also completely unrelated to the discussion.
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sleepy5136
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Well if you’re 15-20mins from the main freeway, that’s not something everyone will be ok with either.. there’s always going to be pros/cons. It’s a matter of what you are willing to sacrifice.
If one normally doesn’t go out of Irvine, yeah it’s not a big deal. However, if you travel out of Irvine often, it can be a deal breaker as it’s probably longer than 15-20 mins with trafffic. What about the fact it’s in an area where it’s prone for fires? Not everyone is willing to drop 2.5M+ to potentially have it burn down in the future.
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CalBears96
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Someone keeps saying that PS is 15-20 mins away from 5/405, but that's completely false. PS is 10 mins away from 5 and less than 15 minutes from 405.
Also, happening once doesn't mean "prone for fires". PS, unlike OH, is NOT considered to be in a fire hazard zone. BR, Serrano Summit, and Portola Hills are closer to fire hazard zone than PS, as well.
Also, happening once doesn't mean "prone for fires". PS, unlike OH, is NOT considered to be in a fire hazard zone. BR, Serrano Summit, and Portola Hills are closer to fire hazard zone than PS, as well.
CalBears96
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Arbor is much better than Fiore, no doubt. Floorplans, location and proximity to community center makes it much more popular than Fiore. Location is also the same reason Olivewood is more popular than Cielo/Azul, even though its floorplans are inferior to Cielo.
As for the pricing of Fiore, I'm expecting Plan 1 to be $1.6M-$1.7M and Plan 2 to be around $1.8M. The reason it can price as high, or almost as high as Arbor, is that Arbor priority list is already closed. So if you want to be a detached condo this size, you have to choice but to go with Fiore. This is the same reason Azul can sell as high as Cielo, even though it's much smaller than Cielo, because Cielo priority list is already closed as well.