Mortgage rate Lock now or wait

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You're bumping up against the Fed ending QE in the next 45 days, and perhaps peace breaking out all over what with Pootie Poot sitting down with his opposite number from Ukraine today, along with the most recent Gaza cease fire being announced. With rates moving lower over the past few weeks ever.... so.... slowly there is a real chance of a retracement ahead. Trees don't grow to the sky, and rates smoothly head in one direction all at once.

On the other side, there is simply zero growth in the Eurozone and rumbles of QE Euro grow louder. China appears to be in a stall. Once the November Elections pass, delayed Affordable Care Act penalties will begin to hit the US economy harder than most expect. (IMHO). These factors could push rates lower. So then with worst case/best case scenario angels resting on each shoulder, who do you listen to?

Lock now or wait? In my mind the right question is this: "Will my new home purchase be stressful if I'm watching each and every tick up and down and up and down and up and down every single day in and out... you get the picture... If so, lock it and forget it. If you prefer to hover over these kinds of details as many prefer, then by all means float. It's not so much a rate/fee question as a quality of life one. Remember, you might lock at 4.0% after watching the market, only to refinance to a lower 30 fixed or a 5/1 later on like many other TI'ers.


BTW the "lock fee" lenders charge should be viewed as a deposit, not a cost. Most programs apply the amount collected towards your overall closing costs. Be sure to read the fine print though, and don't just take what the loan officer says. These programs have "float down" options to lower rates so there really isn't much of a down side, other than once you pay the deposit not only are you locked in at that rate, but locked in with that lender. If you're going to lock, be sure to work with someone giving you a better, lower lock price to start with.

My .02c
 
Soylent Green Is People said:
You're bumping up against the Fed ending QE in the next 45 days, and perhaps peace breaking out all over what with Pootie Poot sitting down with his opposite number from Ukraine today, along with the most recent Gaza cease fire being announced. With rates moving lower over the past few weeks ever.... so.... slowly there is a real chance of a retracement ahead. Trees don't grow to the sky, and rates smoothly head in one direction all at once.

On the other side, there is simply zero growth in the Eurozone and rumbles of QE Euro grow louder. China appears to be in a stall. Once the November Elections pass, delayed Affordable Care Act penalties will begin to hit the US economy harder than most expect. (IMHO). These factors could push rates lower. So then with worst case/best case scenario angels resting on each shoulder, who do you listen to?

Lock now or wait? In my mind the right question is this: "Will my new home purchase be stressful if I'm watching each and every tick up and down and up and down and up and down every single day in and out... you get the picture... If so, lock it and forget it. If you prefer to hover over these kinds of details as many prefer, then by all means float. It's not so much a rate/fee question as a quality of life one. Remember, you might lock at 4.0% after watching the market, only to refinance to a lower 30 fixed or a 5/1 later on like many other TI'ers.


BTW the "lock fee" lenders charge should be viewed as a deposit, not a cost. Most programs apply the amount collected towards your overall closing costs. Be sure to read the fine print though, and don't just take what the loan officer says. These programs have "float down" options to lower rates so there really isn't much of a down side, other than once you pay the deposit not only are you locked in at that rate, but locked in with that lender. If you're going to lock, be sure to work with someone giving you a better, lower lock price to start with.

My .02c

You should write a book :)
Thank you!
 
Tom_Irvine_Guy said:
who is SGIP? Help me please :D
OMG...you can lead the horse to water...

J/k.  Look up at who wrote that great post that you thought should write a book.  He's also ITB for mortgages and does well regarded business with some members here.


Edit.  USC beat me.
 
Thanks guys, great info. I'll have to discuss further with my lender to see the best fit for us.

Don't think we'll lock a rate - will ride it out and see where it goes. After all I don't foresee an increase greater than 0.5% from now until December
 
Paris167 said:
Thanks guys, great info. I'll have to discuss further with my lender to see the best fit for us.

Don't think we'll lock a rate - will ride it out and see where it goes. After all I don't foresee an increase greater than 0.5% from now until December

When you guys are moving? We will be moving by end of Dec
 
One of my favorite RonCo productions, which offers their sage advice:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLq27iOW0R0[/youtube]

-IR2
 
Wells Fargo actually offers a New Construction Loan at 6 and 9 months out from close without any fees. You can lock your rate at 6 or 9 (1/8% higher rate) months out from close and then drop the rate 1 time (No Fee) within 60 days of close. I'm surprised they didn't offer it to you? Ask them about the New Construction Loan.
 
Interesting to hear. Per WF's site it seems like a fee is collected at closing, however per my WF loan officer contacts, WF does still require a deposit up front and that it's refunded at closing just like all of the other long term rate lock options from the major banks.
 
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