Montecito - 2010 Woodbury Collection
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Looks like the buyer pool is drying up. Mighty mo(mentum) is losing its steam.
[quote author="irvinefan"]does anyone know the price difference between the plan 1's and 2's that face the street vs. those that are in the middle of the motorcourt? [/quote]
I will post the prices as soon as I get a copy from the sales office. However, as far as I have seen, there isn't a price difference. The only price difference is if there is a balcony per elevation.
I will post the prices as soon as I get a copy from the sales office. However, as far as I have seen, there isn't a price difference. The only price difference is if there is a balcony per elevation.
ajw522
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[quote author="irvinefan"]Fe, that's interesting since the middle homes have lots that are smaller by ~300sf![/quote]
You know, I got that from the office too, but when I bought, they gave me a diagram of my home and the distance between the home and the wall. I also could see the one for the same plan at the end of the motorcourt ( I bought a middle plan 1) - The one at the end was only .01' farther away from the home. The side yards were the same size. It baffles me.
You know, I got that from the office too, but when I bought, they gave me a diagram of my home and the distance between the home and the wall. I also could see the one for the same plan at the end of the motorcourt ( I bought a middle plan 1) - The one at the end was only .01' farther away from the home. The side yards were the same size. It baffles me.
[quote author="irvinefan"]Hmm that is really odd... they quoted me 3570sf for the outside lot and 3267sf for the middle lot.
Is there a big discrepancy between sizes of the lots between each phase? How much smaller were the phase 1 lots?[/quote]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.
Is there a big discrepancy between sizes of the lots between each phase? How much smaller were the phase 1 lots?[/quote]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.
ajw522
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[quote author="fe9000"]
[quote author="irvinefan"]Hmm that is really odd... they quoted me 3570sf for the outside lot and 3267sf for the middle lot.
Is there a big discrepancy between sizes of the lots between each phase? How much smaller were the phase 1 lots?[/quote]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.[/quote]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.
[quote author="irvinefan"]Hmm that is really odd... they quoted me 3570sf for the outside lot and 3267sf for the middle lot.
Is there a big discrepancy between sizes of the lots between each phase? How much smaller were the phase 1 lots?[/quote]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.[/quote]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.
About lot size: This is what i did. i got the architectural plan for models (they didn't give me copy, but let me see the diagrams in the office). You can see exactly what is the size of your lot (for that they game the copy of lot/home design). we calculated the backyard for model and then compared with the house/Plan 1. It gave us pretty good idea of the backyard.
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[quote author="fe9000"]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.[/quote]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.
[quote author="fe9000"]
We have phase 1 and I was told that our lot was 3458 but the distance to the block wall is much shorter than ajw's. I am confused on this as well.[/quote]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.
ajw522
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[quote author="fe9000"]
[quote author="ajw522"]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.[/quote]
Yes but your side yard width from the home to the wall is the same....the thing I am wondering is, at the model, the home is next to the street, and after the block wall, there is a little bit of dirt before the side walk....does the homeowner have to maintain that as well? Even if that little area is considered part of your lot, it doesn't make your back or side yard any bigger.
[quote author="ajw522"]
Yes, very confusing. I, too, was quoted in the 3400's, yet my distance is greater by a lot. Even one of the sales agents told me that my homesite was larger than those of phase 1, yet our lot sizes are the same. Doesn't make sense.[/quote]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.[/quote]
Yes but your side yard width from the home to the wall is the same....the thing I am wondering is, at the model, the home is next to the street, and after the block wall, there is a little bit of dirt before the side walk....does the homeowner have to maintain that as well? Even if that little area is considered part of your lot, it doesn't make your back or side yard any bigger.
ajw522
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[quote author="ajw522"]
[quote author="fe9000"]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.[/quote]
Yes but your side yard width from the home to the wall is the same....the thing I am wondering is, at the model, the home is next to the street, and after the block wall, there is a little bit of dirt before the side walk....does the homeowner have to maintain that as well? Even if that little area is considered part of your lot, it doesn't make your back or side yard any bigger.[/quote]
At least,the side yard width is the same for my motorcourt - the plan 1 at the end is the same measurement as m side yards.
[quote author="fe9000"]
I think I may finally figured it out. So our lot is next the street and yours is in the middle. Think if you are facing the home, our lot is wider and yours is longer. So even if our back yard is smaller, our side yard that's next to the street is a bit wider. That's why our lot size is close.[/quote]
Yes but your side yard width from the home to the wall is the same....the thing I am wondering is, at the model, the home is next to the street, and after the block wall, there is a little bit of dirt before the side walk....does the homeowner have to maintain that as well? Even if that little area is considered part of your lot, it doesn't make your back or side yard any bigger.[/quote]
At least,the side yard width is the same for my motorcourt - the plan 1 at the end is the same measurement as m side yards.
alex and fe, just wondering if either of you considered santa cruz plan 3 since it is a similar size (3bd + den) and less expensive? santa cruz in general seems to have less interest than montecito, so just wondering why...
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
ajw522
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[quote author="irvinefan"]alex and fe, just wondering if either of you considered santa cruz plan 3 since it is a similar size (3bd + den) and less expensive? santa cruz in general seems to have less interest than montecito, so just wondering why...
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
[/quote]
I did consider Santa Cruz 3, but at the time, I was looking at Montecito plan 2, which had 4 bedrooms, not 3+den. But, of course, like many other things in life, that did not turn out to be the case for me, and I got plan 1 at Montecito. The things that made it more desirable:
Yes, it's a SFH and not a condo.
It has a driveway.
It has a larger backyard (big + for me)
And yes, I prefer WB over WBE, one, because it has more amenities(and hoa is cheaper than WBE) and 2, no matter where you are in WBE, you either hear the toll road or Sand Canyon. Even in the middle, you always hear something.
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
[/quote]
I did consider Santa Cruz 3, but at the time, I was looking at Montecito plan 2, which had 4 bedrooms, not 3+den. But, of course, like many other things in life, that did not turn out to be the case for me, and I got plan 1 at Montecito. The things that made it more desirable:
Yes, it's a SFH and not a condo.
It has a driveway.
It has a larger backyard (big + for me)
And yes, I prefer WB over WBE, one, because it has more amenities(and hoa is cheaper than WBE) and 2, no matter where you are in WBE, you either hear the toll road or Sand Canyon. Even in the middle, you always hear something.
[quote author="irvinefan"]alex and fe, just wondering if either of you considered santa cruz plan 3 since it is a similar size (3bd + den) and less expensive? santa cruz in general seems to have less interest than montecito, so just wondering why...
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
[/quote]
We have, it's just our original property choice of interest list were Coronado (pricing at mid 500) and Montecito (High 600, that's before they increase the price after Dec 3, I am still bitter about this by the way). Santa Cruz plan 3 has bigger SQFT but it's priced the same as the Montecito Plan1 without a drive way. Besides, there were three lots that I would consider Santa Cruz. But we weren't able to register Santa Cruz so I figure those three lots would be purchased before they get to us.
I didn't think WB is an advantage vs WBE. If anything, WBE would cost us less due to the Mello Roos buy down.
a few reasons montecito seems more desirable:
- sfh vs. detached condo (nice to have a driveway!)
- WB vs. WBE (not sure if many ppl place a premium on one vs. the other)
[/quote]
We have, it's just our original property choice of interest list were Coronado (pricing at mid 500) and Montecito (High 600, that's before they increase the price after Dec 3, I am still bitter about this by the way). Santa Cruz plan 3 has bigger SQFT but it's priced the same as the Montecito Plan1 without a drive way. Besides, there were three lots that I would consider Santa Cruz. But we weren't able to register Santa Cruz so I figure those three lots would be purchased before they get to us.
I didn't think WB is an advantage vs WBE. If anything, WBE would cost us less due to the Mello Roos buy down.