Macy's Irvine Spectrum closing

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So this begs the question.  What do we want to go in that location?

It's a 2 story building with tons of space, so unless they demo it and start over, there isn't many options.

JCP? Sears?  Bloomys?  Khols?  Can't see any of those going in actually. 
 
Maybe it'll be renovated to something similar to the Anaheim Packing District, with more food options and boutiques?
 
aquabliss said:
So this begs the question.  What do we want to go in that location?

It's a 2 story building with tons of space, so unless they demo it and start over, there isn't many options.

JCP? Sears?  Bloomys?  Khols?  Can't see any of those going in actually.

A parking structure!
 
Macy?s announced Wednesday it would close 40 locations, including its anchor store at the Irvine Spectrum Center.

Plans for the Irvine Spectrum store were not immediately announced. Of the 40 Macy?s stores, 36 will be closed in the spring while four closed in 2015. The Spectrum store was the only Macy's in the county on the closure list.

Together, the stores accounted for $375 million in annual sales, Macy?s reported.

Macy's also reported Wednesday its store closures would impact some 3,000 employees as well as 1,350 employees in back office and service center positions. Macy?s expects about half the affected associates will be moved to other positions.

Macy?s, with nine locations in Orange County, has roughly 770 stores in its portfolio.

?In today?s rapidly evolving retail environment, it is essential that we maintain a portfolio of the right stores in the right places,? Terry J. Lundgren, chairman and chief executive officer of Macy?s, Inc. said in a statement. ?So we will continue to add stores selectively while also being disciplined about closing stores that are unproductive or no longer robust shopping destinations because of changes in the local retail shopping landscape.?

Retail analyst Greg Stoffel said the chain likely decided to close some stores because of increasing online sales and retaining more locations than the chain would like due to acquisitions.

?Online sales is likely a big portion of it,? retail analyst Greg Stoffel said. ?The company also took on additional chains like Robinsons-May. They took on more locations then they would have otherwise.?

The Irvine Spectrum Macy?s was previously a Robinsons-May store.

Despite the closures, Macy?s also plans to open five new Macy?s and Bloomingdale?s stores, including one in Los Angeles.

Macy?s will also add 50 Backstage off-price locations, mainly inside existing Macy?s stores, and 40 freestanding Bluemercury beauty specialty stores.

Macy?s also announced Wednesday that its comparable sales declined by 4.7 percent during the months of November and December, compared with the same time last year.

Contact the writer: hmadans@ocregister.com or Twitter: @HannahMadans
 
A S said:
Maybe it'll be renovated to something similar to the Anaheim Packing District, with more food options and boutiques?

They'll never do it - it's way too ghetto for TIC to have a little indoor mall there with small time vendors.
 
I can't see one of those food / packing district concepts being a very good thing at the Spectrum. They have a ton of food locations already, so adding something like that, which would add significantly more restaurants, without significant additions to shopping, seems like it would be a bad approach (not that TIC has ever been afraid of pissing off existing tenants). 

I would think whatever goes in would not be a big box retailer and instead it would be broken down into other stories. Maybe you end up with like a Banana or GAAP coming in (as they already have a relationship one of their sister companies, Old Navy). 
 
I just read the news right before coming to this thread. As an Irvine Macy's shopper who has relied on this store for a lot of things, this absolutely sucks. I'm a little bit worried about what I'm going to do. Yet, the writing was on the walls. SOMETHING needed to happen. The store has been in shambles for a while and seemed to be rapidly deteriorating. They either needed to start taking it more seriously or let it go. There was no excuse for letting it linger in the condition it's in for as long as they have, especially at the Spectrum. I THOUGHT something was fishy when I visited their website a couple weeks ago to look up location information and noticed that Irvine was NOT listed among them. Well, now we know. Thankfully, due to the obvious signs of distress, I had been lining up possible alternatives in case something happened to it permanently. I have been shopping at Kohl's more and more as well as an annual trip to the outlets. However, I still don't have a good backup for cocktail wear without driving further than I want to. Now, if only they could spruce up the scary old Laguna Hills mall.  ::)
 
It's not TIC, but AMZ that is sticking it to Macy's.

Be interesting to convert it to something like The Lab / Camp / Anti-Mall concept over in Costa Mesa off of Bristol. Don't know if anyone had a chance to get over there during Christmas, but it's always hyper-busy there.

Laguna Hills Mall was supposed to be converted to an open air mall sometime....perhaps....eventually... Haven't heard "boo" about this for some time.
 
Wish Jessica McClintock outlet was still around. I did find some decent things at Nordstrom's Rack but not nearly the deals the old J.M. outlet had.
 
SoCal said:
I just read the news right before coming to this thread. As an Irvine Macy's shopper who has relied on this store for a lot of things, this absolutely sucks. I'm a little bit worried about what I'm going to do. Yet, the writing was on the walls. SOMETHING needed to happen. The store has been in shambles for a while and seemed to be rapidly deteriorating. They either needed to start taking it more seriously or let it go. There was no excuse for letting it linger in the condition it's in for as long as they have, especially at the Spectrum. I THOUGHT something was fishy when I visited their website a couple weeks ago to look up location information and noticed that Irvine was NOT listed among them. Well, now we know. Thankfully, due to the obvious signs of distress, I had been lining up possible alternatives in case something happened to it permanently. I have been shopping at Kohl's more and more as well as an annual trip to the outlets. However, I still don't have a good backup for cocktail wear without driving further than I want to. Now, if only they could spruce up the scary old Laguna Hills mall.  ::)
Ummm...their is a Macy's at Mission Mall and South Coast Plaza. Is it really that hard to drive their instead?  The concept of this location was always absurd, in my opinion. That said, I thought putting a Nordstrom in would have helped it as it would have driven more people looking to "truly shop" to come to the Spectrum (vs. going to the mall). 
 
Bullsback said:
Ummm...their is a Macy's at Mission Mall and South Coast Plaza. Is it really that hard to drive their instead?  The concept of this location was always absurd, in my opinion. That said, I thought putting a Nordstrom in would have helped it as it would have driven more people looking to "truly shop" to come to the Spectrum (vs. going to the mall). 

Yes, the Macy's @ The Shops At Mission Viejo is awesome. Maybe other Irvine customers will migrate there or Costa Mesa. However, unfortunately for me, it just won't do. As great as that one is, I only get down there once in a blue moon. When I go to The Spectrum, it's during the week. Time is of the essence. I have to beat the clock or else risk abandoning the entire procedure! It can be really frustrating especially if I have a lot of stuff picked out. I never find myself at a mall on, say, a lazy weekend just shopping for hours. "Recreational shopping" doesn't really fit into my lifestyle. (After all, I only produce boys! I'm fully adapted to the "male way of life" by now!) I just need the closest, most accessible shop that has what I need so I can go when I'm on my own time. Get in & get out. I'm on a mission.
 
I'm personally not surprised because the southcoast Macy's is so much superior to this Macy's. The variety and options available at the spectrum Macy's was sad compared to southcoast. But I know SoCal, it was totally a convenient location for most Irvine peeps
 
Irvine Co., the giant landlord, plans to turn a soon-to-be-shuttered Macy?s store at its Irvine Spectrum Center into Orange County?s newest collection of smaller shops.

Macy?s announced Wednesday it would close 40 stores nationwide, including its Irvine Spectrum location, as part of a $400-million-a-year cost savings plan.

The Irvine store opened in 2002 as a Robinsons-May, a chain Macy?s bought in 2005. The 140,000-square-foot, two-story store ? smaller than a typical Macy?s ? would need a significant overhaul if it remained open.

With four stores nearby in Mission Viejo, Laguna Hills, South Coast Plaza and Irvine Co.?s Fashion Island, Macy?s chose to close the Spectrum location rather than renovate. The store will close by the end of March. Macy?s said it will offer jobs at nearby Macy?s, or severance packages, to the store?s 112 employees.

Irvine Co. said it will turn big into small as part of a $150 million overhaul of the open-air mall.

Billionaire Donald Bren?s company will buy the Macy?s building ? built on land the real estate giant still owns ? for an undisclosed sum and demolish it. On that space will be built a new row of stores with a wide walkway concourse, or paseo, dividing as many as 20 new shopping options. The new shops should be open by early 2018.

?Online shopping is changing everything,? says Easther Liu, Irvine Co.?s chief retail marketing officer. ?The customer is clearly dictating what we are doing.?

Turning a retail ?big box? into smaller shops will become commonplace as online shopping continues to challenge the core profitability of brick-and-mortar stores. But in some ways, teardowns aren?t new either. The Bella Terra outdoor shopping center in Huntington Beach, for example, is on the site of the formerly enclosed Huntington Center mall.

The Irvine Spectrum retooling started roughly a year ago, when Irvine Co. officials began planning the next phase of work on the 20-year-old center. Already, $40 million has been spent adding new shopping and dining spaces, relocating a comedy hall and improving the open-air mall?s street access and parking.

There?s little doubt Irvine Spectrum?s quirky 130-merchant portfolio draws a crowd, which is estimated at 17 million visitors a year. The mall?s become the dining and entertainment hub of South County. Irvine Co. says Spectrum?s food and movie spending share of total sales is three or four times what is typically seen at a regional mall.

But Irvine Co. officials admit the Spectrum?s retailing options needed a boost. As Dave Moore, president of the company?s retail property division put it: ?The numbers are good, but people weren?t leaving with shopping bags as often as we?d like.?

It?s far too early for the landlord to talk names of new tenants replacing Macy?s, but they?re hopeful they will serve a ?multicultural, multigenerational audience,? as Liu put it, aligning with trendy stores such as Lululemon Athletica, H&M, Brandy Melville, Hurley|Nike SB and Anthropologie.

Merchant choices aside, the business logic to the move is simple.

First, Macy?s was paying only a small lease fee for the land on which the store sits. Irvine Co. soon will collect significant rents from merchants filling its new shopping structures.

That collection of the new stores could produce sales volumes as much as five times greater than Macy?s did, Moore estimated.

A variety of new merchants will allow the mall to appeal to a broader spectrum of shoppers. Plus, down the road, this also gives the landlord more flexibility in tweaking the center?s tenant mix.

Irvine Co. officials added that the Macy?s replacement isn?t the only eye-catching improvements ahead for the Spectrum. For example, two digital highway signs hawking the mall?s retail choices will be constructed, overlooking the 5 and 405, which border the mall.

Nobody likes seeing a retail stalwart like Macy?s depart, but retailing has become a change-or-die business. The growing pressures on the biggest brick-and-mortar retailers meant that mall landlord Irvine Co. had little choice but to ?go small? at Irvine Spectrum.

Contact the writer: jlansner@ocregister.com
 
Good riddance. Place was a joke. Let's get some legit retailers in there. It is true though about actual "shopping" at the spectrum. I rarely buy anything while there. Mainly go just to hang out, eat, movies.
 
I wonder how much business that Nordstrom actually does. Maybe they could be on the chopping block next. I rarely go in there anymore. The main problem is the lack of selection. Even that Macy's, as much as it pales in comparison to other Macy's, has 100x better selection than that Nordstrom. When I do go in there, it's a ghost town. You could hear a pin drop. Despite that, it's sometimes hard to get help. The employees I've come across do too much socializing with each other and not enough working. It's like, ok, let me wait while you finish your conversation about some dude who texted you and then text the guy back before I can ask if you have this in a different color. No, thanks. I'll sometimes go in that Nordstrom only if it's something I'm 100% sure they'll carry and can ring me up without much hassle. I have a thing for nice perfume. But even with that, there are other options. Last but not least, they've axed the live piano players. That was the last straw.  :P
 
South coast plaza is by far the best mall around for actual shopping. Not great food selection though. Although Anqi has great garlic noodles and sliders.
 
qwerty said:
South coast plaza is by far the best mall around for actual shopping. Not great food selection though. Although Anqi has great garlic noodles and sliders.
I love SCP, great selection of stores and I can go to Sears to relive my childhood.
 
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