YellowFever
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YellowFever said:iacrenter recently posted this about living next to freeways so I'll just paste it here:
To sum it up, fuck buying in CVE! Developers do NOT care about your health. They care about MONEY. Anyone believing otherwise should show me evidence that they care about your health!
There is no way in hell TIC will ever say or market: "Cypress Village East! - The place which will improve and increase your life span!"
http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-me-freeway-pollution/
YellowFever said:eyephone said:I wouldn't want to live too close by the 5 fwy. (May lead to respiratory issues and also not good if your planning to make a baby. The baby maybe affected once born)
I'm with Eyephone on this one.
CVE is sandwiched between the 133 and the 5 fwy that you're definitely going to get bad air quality. We DO know for a fact pollution/smog causes lung cancer and possible birth defects (Just look at China, where the air quality index is a blistering 500+ which is highly hazardous!)
Then combine that with the SCE substation which causes cancer like leukemia. Then finally, pour salt on it because CVE is also west of the TCE plume, which the plume is heading south west in that direction.
Legado just has proximity to the landfill and possible cemetery but those are less likely to induce cancer.
Oh and let's not forget, CVE and lower part of CV is very close to the Hazardous Waste disposal site at: 6411 Oak Canyon, Irvine, CA 92618 . God forbid what they do over there !
paydawg said:vh5150 said:Hi,
New member here. Anyone currently lives in Legado have any feedback on the place? Currently looking to move to Irvine but will need to sell my existing home to do so since they don't seem to like contingent sales unless its in escrow already. The layout seems to be what we are looking for, but what's the deal with how slow it's being built? Is this to create artificial demand? Each phase is released slowly and only a few homes built per phase.
Alternatively, we are also looking at Trellis Court (residence 2) but like the layout of Legado more for roughly the same price. Any reason to consider Trellis Court instead?
Trellis Court all the way in my opinion. MUCH more conveniently located, lower mello roos and the vaulted ceilings. The TC residence 2 has a good sized guest bedroom downstairs which no other home that size offers.
Prototype said:YellowFever said:eyephone said:I wouldn't want to live too close by the 5 fwy. (May lead to respiratory issues and also not good if your planning to make a baby. The baby maybe affected once born)
I'm with Eyephone on this one.
CVE is sandwiched between the 133 and the 5 fwy that you're definitely going to get bad air quality. We DO know for a fact pollution/smog causes lung cancer and possible birth defects (Just look at China, where the air quality index is a blistering 500+ which is highly hazardous!)
Then combine that with the SCE substation which causes cancer like leukemia. Then finally, pour salt on it because CVE is also west of the TCE plume, which the plume is heading south west in that direction.
Legado just has proximity to the landfill and possible cemetery but those are less likely to induce cancer.
Oh and let's not forget, CVE and lower part of CV is very close to the Hazardous Waste disposal site at: 6411 Oak Canyon, Irvine, CA 92618 . God forbid what they do over there !
Dude, you have to have something better to do than elaborately troll people on TI.
Millions of people live near freeways, near power lines etc. CVE land used to be a strawberry field for years so everyone that ate the fruit must also have cancer, right? Let's be constructive and actually help people looking to buy homes in the area.
YellowFever said:Prototype said:Dude, you have to have something better to do than elaborately troll people on TI.
Millions of people live near freeways, near power lines etc. CVE land used to be a strawberry field for years so everyone that ate the fruit must also have cancer, right? Let's be constructive and actually help people looking to buy homes in the area.
Honestly, you must be an idiot and yeah this is an ad hominem. First, let me fuckin' ask you this, when DOES irvine company or the city of Irvine send out flyers or surveys asking everybody in their household to respond whether or not they have cancer or any health problems? And just exactly why they would do that, so they can cause a scandal and cause housing prices to drop?
Secondly, people come and go in Irvine. I do have friends in Irvine, some who did get cancer living in CV. But NOBODY fuckin' goes to work or you don't run into somebody at the grocery store and they say "Hi Everyone, I have cervical cancer! Hi everyone, I have leukemia cancer!" ....
NO! NEVER HAPPENS. So don't pull that stunt on me about how "Irvine is so safe" and "has been living near freeways" and there's no proof of cancer because people have been living here for 30+years. THAT 's because NOBODY collected data on it and nobody wants to because it DOESN"T DO anybody any good, especially TIC. And nobody goes around sharing that kind of information. When's the last time your neighbor knocked on your door and said "Hi Buddy, I just wanted you to know my wife has herpes and she's currently on Valtrex! Have a good day!" ... YEAH RIGHT! America PROTECTS health records because it's PRIVATE information. Nurses get fuckin' fired for looking at celebrity's health records at Cedars Sinai and you're telling me Irvine Company or city doesn't report cancer simply because nobody gets cancer? The real answer is this STUFF AINT PUBLIC INFORMATION. You don't FIND this shit at the Orange County Clerk-Recorder office.
Lastly, you don't need to look very far (China) to see just how bad pollution causes cancer. :
"China to Have Over 800,000 Lung Cancer Patients a Year by 2020, State Media Says"http://time.com/4130476/china-smoking-pollution-lung-cancer/
China's cancer rates exploding, more than 4 million people diagnosed in 2015, study says (Lung cancer 'from air pollution')http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-03-24/chinas-cancer-rates-exploding-study-says/7272266
Also cancer and power stations:
"Cancer rates five times higher near power station"http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-higher-near-power-station.html#ixzz4aKr90fO5
Lastly, you'll want to pay attention to this one regarding cancer and EMF from substations and power stations.
"The effect of EMFs on biological tissue remains controversial. Virtually all scientists agree that more research is necessary to determine safe or dangerous levels. What they do know is that iron, which is necessary for healthy blood and is stored in the brain, is highly affected by EMFs. "
http://www.naturalnews.com/023078_EMF_EMFs_power.html
Let me tell you something... Iron is like a metal and it lives in our body. It reacts with doses of EMF. Humans have not done enough work/research to know just how much EMF is needed to react with Iron. It's just like nobody knows how much a pregnant woman needs to drink before her baby gets down syndrome. You can't mathematically quantify it.
At the end of the day, these are the risks.
We can AGREE that it is nearly IMPOSSIBLE to mathematically CALCULATE just how much these substations, air pollution, and TCE reduces our life span caused by cancer. But certainly, it is nice to know that had you NOT choose to lived at Cypress Village East, you might have decreased your chances of NOT GETTING cancer by 40-50% when you hit age 50 or 60. And by that time, one might still not be living in Irvine anymore, but it doesn't matter? Why because the damage is ALREADY done to the DNA.