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do you trust Bismack's listed age?
there is speculation Ibaka is older than his listing age as evident by his decline in the last couple years; also similar accusation on Bucks draftee Thong Maker. It is not uncommon for African born players to fake their age to gain advantage in soccer and basketball. An athletic 23 year old with raw basketball skills is a lot less attractive than a 19 year old.

irvinehomeowner said:
I think Bismack has the potential to be better without the ejections and injuries.

I don't think Whiteside is a free agent draw... if he can't get along in Miami with Wade and Riley there... it's a red flag.
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The California Court Company said:
do you trust Bismack's listed age?
there is speculation Ibaka is older than his listing age as evident by his decline in the last couple years; also similar accusation on Bucks draftee Thong Maker. It is not uncommon for African born players to fake their age to gain advantage in soccer and basketball. An athletic 23 year old with raw basketball skills is a lot less attractive than a 19 year old.
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Heh... same thing went around when Bismack was drafted in 2011. Back then they speculated he was really 22 or 23... so even at 27 or 28, he's still the same age as Whiteside and younger than Horford.

If you look at Bismack's stats when he plays more minutes, it's very close to Whiteside's. And he should be cheaper freeing up money to get another quality free agent.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
The California Court Company said:
do you trust Bismack's listed age?
there is speculation Ibaka is older than his listing age as evident by his decline in the last couple years; also similar accusation on Bucks draftee Thong Maker. It is not uncommon for African born players to fake their age to gain advantage in soccer and basketball. An athletic 23 year old with raw basketball skills is a lot less attractive than a 19 year old.
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Heh... same thing went around when Bismack was drafted in 2011. Back then they speculated he was really 22 or 23... so even at 27 or 28, he's still the same age as Whiteside and younger than Horford.

If you look at Bismack's stats when he plays more minutes, it's very close to Whiteside's. And he should be cheaper freeing up money to get another quality free agent.
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According to your analysis IHO, Bismack is a good deal with value?
 
I think Bismack would be a better fit and easier to manage with the Lakers than Whiteside.

I like Horford too as he is a veteran and with a team of youngsters, that would help... but he didn't really impress me in the ATL playoffs.

I find it funny that people are wondering why KD won't give the Lakers an interview considering:

1. They just drafted Ingram who plays the same position (so it would be bad for either player if KD came to the Lakers)

2. He's probably doing that to spite Steven A. Smith.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
I think Bismack would be a better fit and easier to manage with the Lakers than Whiteside.

I like Horford too as he is a veteran and with a team of youngsters, that would help... but he didn't really impress me in the ATL playoffs.

I find it funny that people are wondering why KD won't give the Lakers an interview considering:

1. They just drafted Ingram who plays the same position (so it would be bad for either player if KD came to the Lakers)

2. He's probably doing that to spite Steven A. Smith.
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3. He wants to win a title or the chance of winning a title.
 
The California Court Company said:
sign a defensive and mobile 5, and stretch 4's. reserve cap room and keep the pipe dream of signing KD and WB together next year. must trade Randle.
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Do you mean sign Ryan Anderson?
 
I like Horford as our 5/stretch 4...he's a perfect fit in the new passing offense that Luke will put in here.  He can shoot/pass/defend

I don't think whiteside will leave Miami and if he does, it's said that he prefers dallas over us and I have some concerns over his attitude...especially once he gets a fat contract, he gives me a Bynum vibe

 
What do you think of Horford's age?

SoclosetoIrvine said:
I like Horford as our 5/stretch 4...he's a perfect fit in the new passing offense that Luke will put in here.  He can shoot/pass/defend

I don't think whiteside will leave Miami and if he does, it's said that he prefers dallas over us and I have some concerns over his attitude...especially once he gets a fat contract, he gives me a Bynum vibe
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eyephone said:
What do you think of Horford's age?

SoclosetoIrvine said:
I like Horford as our 5/stretch 4...he's a perfect fit in the new passing offense that Luke will put in here.  He can shoot/pass/defend

I don't think whiteside will leave Miami and if he does, it's said that he prefers dallas over us and I have some concerns over his attitude...especially once he gets a fat contract, he gives me a Bynum vibe
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Too old for the Lakers.  Just about right for the Mavs.  Vice versa for Whiteside.
 
eyephone said:
What do you think of Horford's age?

SoclosetoIrvine said:
I like Horford as our 5/stretch 4...he's a perfect fit in the new passing offense that Luke will put in here.  He can shoot/pass/defend

I don't think whiteside will leave Miami and if he does, it's said that he prefers dallas over us and I have some concerns over his attitude...especially once he gets a fat contract, he gives me a Bynum vibe
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He's 30 right now not 32-33...obviously I'd prefer someone younger
but I would have no concerns giving him a 3 year deal, throw in a team option 4th year if you have to...
 
eyephone said:
How about add this
3. He wants to win a title or the chance of winning a title.
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Ahh yes... that's actually the #1 reason for the KDsnub.

Horford may not leave ATL, they can pay him more.

Let's face it, the Lakers don't have the cachet they once had for free agents. Dwight left, CP3 stayed with the Clippers (for all of the Laker fans who feels Stern robbed the Lakers, if CP3 wanted to be a Laker, he would have switched), Monroe went to Milwaukee for less, Melo stayed in NY, Aldridge went to the spurs... even Gasol left for less money in Chicago.

It's all on the kids, which I don't mind... can't wait to see D'Angelo unfettered by Byron and Ingram scoring on everyone.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
eyephone said:
How about add this
3. He wants to win a title or the chance of winning a title.
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Ahh yes... that's actually the #1 reason for the KDsnub.

Horford may not leave ATL, they can pay him more.

Let's face it, the Lakers don't have the cachet they once had for free agents. Dwight left, CP3 stayed with the Clippers (for all of the Laker fans who feels Stern robbed the Lakers, if CP3 wanted to be a Laker, he would have switched), Monroe went to Milwaukee for less, Melo stayed in NY, Aldridge went to the spurs... even Gasol left for less money in Chicago.

It's all on the kids, which I don't mind... can't wait to see D'Angelo unfettered by Byron and Ingram scoring on everyone.
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You're right!
Laker fan for life, but we suck...we have holes in many positions, we're not one free agent away from contending, probably 3-4...and to be honest even if we added both derozen/whiteside, we probably would have issues winning 50 games

but it's an exciting time for sure to see the young kids develop, been hearing Russell and Clarkson putting in work and I can't wait to see ingram develop.  I think he can really be special or at least KD lite.  We just have to keep letting those guys develop while keeping our cap options friendly.  At face value, we don't have any franchise players now, but one could develop into one *my homer pick being ingram or ruseell)

I like guys like horford since they will complement the team well and won't hinder development and can add a few wins.  I would be against adding a derozen since he would be taking shots away
 
irvinehomeowner said:
The one thing the Lakers have for them this year than the last 3 in free agency... no Kobe.

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Exactly! going into free agency is at least better than last year
LAst year it was ..Kobe is retiring, he's going to chuck like no other..come join! LA is great! Here's Adam Levine!

This year.. no kobe! You can grow with us...we don't  have a franchise player but we have pieces with potential...come to LA


the interesting rumor I've been hearing is that if Golden state has a great meeting with Durant, they need to move pieces to create the cap space.  We could literally assist them by "absorbing" iggy/bogut etc for free or a 2nd rounder...doesn't hurt our long term goals, get free pieces = win win
 
The rumor is Lakers will not get a meeting with whiteside.

Before people blame Kobe that the FA wouldn't sign with the Lakers. So who's fault is it now, that top free agents don't want to meet with the Lakers. (KD/Whiteside)

Not a good start to the FA period.
 
It's still Kobe's fault in a way.

He didn't help recruit FAs who would then be the ones to recruit new FAs.

Laker fans keep telling me that players would be stupid not to want to play/live in LA and to be part of the purple and gold legacy... but they are living in the past. NBA stars can make money wherever they play and as proven by Lebron, win championships elsewhere.

Most of the commercials/ads/endorsements/shoes I see nowadays are from non-Laker players.
 
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