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[ajw522]

living close to freeways would damage developing children lungs, as study shows.

I think the safe distance is at least 1.5 miles away from a major freeway (5 & 405); that pretty much rules out more than 50% of Irvine

Personally I will not trade my children's health for better API scores

You might want to check out Tustin Legacy.  It is as far as you can get from the 5 and 405.
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/google-map.php
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/local-area-map.php

Yeah, you're far from freeway, but then you've got that pesky little detail about the toxic waste sitting beneath your home.

 

[test]

living close to freeways would damage developing children lungs, as study shows.

I think the safe distance is at least 1.5 miles away from a major freeway (5 & 405); that pretty much rules out more than 50% of Irvine

Personally I will not trade my children's health for better API scores

You might want to check out Tustin Legacy.  It is as far as you can get from the 5 and 405.
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/google-map.php
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/local-area-map.php

Yeah, you're far from freeway, but then you've got that pesky little detail about the toxic waste sitting beneath your home.

That's El Toro not Tustin.

 

[qwerty]

living close to freeways would damage developing children lungs, as study shows.

I think the safe distance is at least 1.5 miles away from a major freeway (5 & 405); that pretty much rules out more than 50% of Irvine

Personally I will not trade my children's health for better API scores

You might want to check out Tustin Legacy.  It is as far as you can get from the 5 and 405.
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/google-map.php
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/local-area-map.php

Yeah, you're far from freeway, but then you've got that pesky little detail about the toxic waste sitting beneath your home.

something is going to kill you anyway, might as well enjoy a new home.

 

[Irvine2Irvine]

living close to freeways would damage developing children lungs, as study shows.

I think the safe distance is at least 1.5 miles away from a major freeway (5 & 405); that pretty much rules out more than 50% of Irvine

Personally I will not trade my children's health for better API scores

You might want to check out Tustin Legacy.  It is as far as you can get from the 5 and 405.
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/google-map.php
http://www.lyonainsleypark.com/location/local-area-map.php

Yeah, you're far from freeway, but then you've got that pesky little detail about the toxic waste sitting beneath your home.

That's El Toro not Tustin.

I don't see how Tustin Marine Base would not have toxic waste under it while El Toro does.  Either they both do or both don't.  I would think that they both do.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I don't see how Tustin Marine Base would not have toxic waste under it while El Toro does.  Either they both do or both don't.  I would think that they both do.

The MagicalToxicRemoval Fairy? made a visit to Tustin, but ran out of sparklie dust so she didn't make it to El Toro.

At least that's what the Irvine Unicorn told me.

 

[test]

Actually the toxins from El Toro are under Woodbridge.  El Toro has other issues like radioactive hangars which are being reused for the Great Park????

 

[test]

I don't see how Tustin Marine Base would not have toxic waste under it while El Toro does.  Either they both do or both don't.  I would think that they both do.

They had totally different uses.  Tustin was a lighter than air base and had on base residential homes.

Unless the marines and their families were dumping toxins into their backyard, you should be safe.
http://articles.latimes.com/2002/may/05/opinion/ed-oc-tustin5

 

[frank69m]

Also, Siena actually looks like it may be SFRs on a motor cour setup...or maybe detached condo.  But I think the garage would have to be in the front, because of all the homes on the left of Saw Mill.  Since there is no alley behind them, it's safe to assume that those homes will have frontal garages.

Siena's will get a lot of 405 freeway noise and the rest of the homes will also not escape the road noise from the 405 and 133.

That's true...and also, I thought that if they were detached condo's with alley loaded garages, that maybe the garages were facing the street.  But that brought two problems. 1) No one would face the front of the homes to the 405 and 2) That would be one heck of an ugly street having all garages. 

I know that I'll get flamed by IHO for saying this but I actually prefer Portola Springs to Laguna Crossing mainly because of the density and noise issues.  haha

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of LA, or QH locations. People say the 405 is white noise, but at least from QH, it's white noise, revving engines, and trucker horns.

That being said, there are very few new neighborhoods in Irvine that don't have traffic noise.

Not sure what you are talking about. Unless you are in the condos and apartments below right next to the Quail Hill Village Strip mall, I don't hear any horns or anything in QH. And, if you are on the even number homes, you hear even less. Now when I lived in an Irvine Apartment, you get all the drunks and kids making noises

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I don't see how Tustin Marine Base would not have toxic waste under it while El Toro does.  Either they both do or both don't.  I would think that they both do.

They had totally different uses.  Tustin was a lighter than air base and had on base residential homes.

Unless the marines and their families were dumping toxins into their backyard, you should be safe.

So helicopters are lighter than air? I remember in the 90s tons of helicopters were flying in and out of there.

And what does it matter if it was a "lighter than air" base? What does that mean? That blimps don't use fuel?

And you still have to sign-off on toxic disclosure forms when you buy in Tustin Legacy, stuff about the dangers of planting fruits/vegetables etc. I'm sure it's safe but the disclosures exist for a reason.

 

[irvinehomeowner]

http://www.villagesofcolumbus.com/media/images/Villages_of_columbus-Tustin_Legacy_FAQ.pdf

1. Are there any environmental problems at Tustin Legacy?
The site of Tustin Legacy is the former Marine Corps Air Station Tustin, which was either a Navy and/or Marine Corps training facility throughout its 57-year history. Like many communities of its age, the former Marine Corps Air Station had a gas station and other fuel storage areas, had a landfill site, and utilized various cleaning solvents and chemicals in cleaning and repairing military aircraft and supporting the military mission. The environmental impacts caused by each of these types of activities were analyzed by the Department of the Navy in consultation with federal and state environmental regulators and areas of concern are currently being remediated. The Department of the Navy is legally responsible for the assessment, identification, and remediation of any environmental problems associated with previous military operations at Tustin Legacy. They are working with the California Department of Toxic Substance Control (DTSC), the federal Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), and the City of Tustin to ensure that the environmental process and remediation activities at Tustin Legacy meet all state and federal environmental standards.

 

[test]

I'm sure you could drive a few blocks *anywhere* and find a gas station with underground fuel storage tanks.  What's your point?

 

[IndieDev]

Also, Siena actually looks like it may be SFRs on a motor cour setup...or maybe detached condo.  But I think the garage would have to be in the front, because of all the homes on the left of Saw Mill.  Since there is no alley behind them, it's safe to assume that those homes will have frontal garages.

Siena's will get a lot of 405 freeway noise and the rest of the homes will also not escape the road noise from the 405 and 133.

That's true...and also, I thought that if they were detached condo's with alley loaded garages, that maybe the garages were facing the street.  But that brought two problems. 1) No one would face the front of the homes to the 405 and 2) That would be one heck of an ugly street having all garages. 

I know that I'll get flamed by IHO for saying this but I actually prefer Portola Springs to Laguna Crossing mainly because of the density and noise issues.  haha

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of LA, or QH locations. People say the 405 is white noise, but at least from QH, it's white noise, revving engines, and trucker horns.

That being said, there are very few new neighborhoods in Irvine that don't have traffic noise.

Not sure what you are talking about. Unless you are in the condos and apartments below right next to the Quail Hill Village Strip mall, I don't hear any horns or anything in QH. And, if you are on the even number homes, you hear even less. Now when I lived in an Irvine Apartment, you get all the drunks and kids making noises

I've heard freeway noise next to the elementary school past the strip mall with the Albertsons. You could be acclimated to it, but I visit QH about 3-4 times a month to visit a friend who owns a detached condo there, and he even complains that 405 noise can be heard at night in his backyard.

 

[usctrojancpa]

I'm sure you could drive a few blocks *anywhere* and find a gas station with underground fuel storage tanks.  What's your point?

Point is that homes around those gas stations don't require you to sign a disclosure about not planting fruit trees.  I'll take a pass on buying a home sitting on a superfund site.

 

[ajw522]

Pretty soon we may have to move this test fight to a different topic so we can stop hijacking this one!

 

[usctrojancpa]

Also, Siena actually looks like it may be SFRs on a motor cour setup...or maybe detached condo.  But I think the garage would have to be in the front, because of all the homes on the left of Saw Mill.  Since there is no alley behind them, it's safe to assume that those homes will have frontal garages.

Siena's will get a lot of 405 freeway noise and the rest of the homes will also not escape the road noise from the 405 and 133.

That's true...and also, I thought that if they were detached condo's with alley loaded garages, that maybe the garages were facing the street.  But that brought two problems. 1) No one would face the front of the homes to the 405 and 2) That would be one heck of an ugly street having all garages. 

I know that I'll get flamed by IHO for saying this but I actually prefer Portola Springs to Laguna Crossing mainly because of the density and noise issues.  haha

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of LA, or QH locations. People say the 405 is white noise, but at least from QH, it's white noise, revving engines, and trucker horns.

That being said, there are very few new neighborhoods in Irvine that don't have traffic noise.

Not sure what you are talking about. Unless you are in the condos and apartments below right next to the Quail Hill Village Strip mall, I don't hear any horns or anything in QH. And, if you are on the even number homes, you hear even less. Now when I lived in an Irvine Apartment, you get all the drunks and kids making noises

I've heard freeway noise next to the elementary school past the strip mall with the Albertsons. You could be acclimated to it, but I visit QH about 3-4 times a month to visit a friend who owns a detached condo there, and he even complains that 405 noise can be heard at night in his backyard.

I could hear the white freeway noise when I lived in my condo in QH and would hear it when I showed the SFRs homes that the views.  Some days were worse than others, it all depends on which direction the wind was blows.

 

[test]

Point is that homes around those gas stations don't require you to sign a disclosure about not planting fruit trees.

Are you sure about that?  Or did you just hear someone on the internet say that and take it as fact?  If so I got a bridge to sell you.

  I'll take a pass on buying a home sitting on a superfund site.

Again, you are confusing El Toro with Tustin.  Makes people wonder if you know *anything* you are talking about.

 

[shadax]

El Toro+Tustin = Love Canal II?  Seriously, I wouldn't want to live on top of either one.  The way we have destroyed the environment is completely disgusting.

Say what you want about Brightwater in Huntington Beach (hey google results...c'mere) but I'd rather live on top of a burial ground than a plume of TCE or whatever other chemicals were regularly dumped at both bases.  In countries where land is far more scarce and humans have populated the area for far longer, if you're building anything you can be pretty sure someone was once buried there somewhere, sometime...  it's just novel here so people freak out.

Disclaimer:  No, I don't work for BW or live there.  I am impressed with many of TIC's new products (Casero Plan 3, Sevilla Plan 2, Las Ventanas Plan 3, I'm looking at you guys).  Sheesh, but even those are built right next to one of the largest garbage dumps in the United States. 

One of my many Economics teachers over the years said that if we dug a 1 cubic mile hole in a remote area somewhere, we could store all of the garbage the entire country produces over 200 years.  But no, it's cheaper to put that crap in our backyard.  Gross.

 

[irvinerealtor]

They had totally different uses.  Tustin was a lighter than air base and had on base residential homes.

Unless the marines and their families were dumping toxins into their backyard, you should be safe.

So helicopters are lighter than air? I remember in the 90s tons of helicopters were flying in and out of there.

And what does it matter if it was a "lighter than air" base? What does that mean?

It means that it weighs the same as a duck 

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zrzMhU_4m-g[/youtube]

 

[Irvine2Irvine]

I'm sure you could drive a few blocks *anywhere* and find a gas station with underground fuel storage tanks.  What's your point?

Comparing a Military base and a gas station for toxic ground is like comparing an ocean to a pond.  Military uses chemicals that are way beyond refined gasoline.  Also Military buried their crap, at least until recent environmental policy changes.  Gas station may have storage tank leaks or spillage from people pumping gas, but that's about it.  It doesn't compare to super toxic material used to keep military running.

 

[frank69m]

Also, Siena actually looks like it may be SFRs on a motor cour setup...or maybe detached condo.  But I think the garage would have to be in the front, because of all the homes on the left of Saw Mill.  Since there is no alley behind them, it's safe to assume that those homes will have frontal garages.

Siena's will get a lot of 405 freeway noise and the rest of the homes will also not escape the road noise from the 405 and 133.

That's true...and also, I thought that if they were detached condo's with alley loaded garages, that maybe the garages were facing the street.  But that brought two problems. 1) No one would face the front of the homes to the 405 and 2) That would be one heck of an ugly street having all garages. 

I know that I'll get flamed by IHO for saying this but I actually prefer Portola Springs to Laguna Crossing mainly because of the density and noise issues.  haha

You're not alone. I'm not a big fan of LA, or QH locations. People say the 405 is white noise, but at least from QH, it's white noise, revving engines, and trucker horns.

That being said, there are very few new neighborhoods in Irvine that don't have traffic noise.

Not sure what you are talking about. Unless you are in the condos and apartments below right next to the Quail Hill Village Strip mall, I don't hear any horns or anything in QH. And, if you are on the even number homes, you hear even less. Now when I lived in an Irvine Apartment, you get all the drunks and kids making noises

I've heard freeway noise next to the elementary school past the strip mall with the Albertsons. You could be acclimated to it, but I visit QH about 3-4 times a month to visit a friend who owns a detached condo there, and he even complains that 405 noise can be heard at night in his backyard.

I could hear the white freeway noise when I lived in my condo in QH and would hear it when I showed the SFRs homes that the views.  Some days were worse than others, it all depends on which direction the wind was blows.

Well maybe that is because I take spyglass up the hill so i don't hear as much.