Juniper by Pulte (Beacon Park)
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sure but pulte's larger released lots are all spoken for it would seem? and I believe they are selling better than the other builders in their category...it looks like (from the website) that they priced the model 2 and 3 pretty close in price now (whereas before there was a "60k" ish difference) and created a larger price gap between model 1 and 2.
Juniper's Plan 1's $100K premium over a Strada Plan 3 gets you a bigger house, and very likely a much bigger backyard. That $100K price difference sounds justifiable (if the hills aren't a big deal to you), but don't forget to factor in the difference in property taxes.
Due to the mello roos being double, your Juniper house could cost $400+ more monthly in property taxes - $1,450 at Strada on a $1.25M house and $1,875 at Juniper on a $1.25M house. That's the equivalent of financing ~$90K more at 3.5% for thirty years, and it can compound annually at 2%!
Granted, if you're not in the AMT, property taxes might be deductible. However, the Pease Phase-down reintroduced in 2013 minimizes all of your Itemized Deductions at higher income levels.
AW said:
sure but pulte's larger released lots are all spoken for it would seem? and I believe they are selling better than the other builders in their category...it looks like (from the website) that they priced the model 2 and 3 pretty close in price now (whereas before there was a "60k" ish difference) and created a larger price gap between model 1 and 2.
Perspective
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gld2 said:
Juniper's Plan 1's $100K premium over a Strada Plan 3 gets you a bigger house, and very likely a much bigger backyard. That $100K price difference sounds justifiable (if the hills aren't a big deal to you), but don't forget to factor in the difference in property taxes.
Due to the mello roos being double, your Juniper house could cost $400+ more monthly in property taxes - $1,450 at Strada on a $1.25M house and $1,875 at Juniper on a $1.25M house. That's the equivalent of financing ~$90K more at 3.5% for thirty years, and it can compound annually at 2%!
Granted, if you're not in the AMT, property taxes might be deductible. However, the Pease Phase-down reintroduced in 2013 minimizes all of your Itemized Deductions at higher income levels.
Are you representing Juniper Sales staff? if you are, please disclose.
Please don't compare the Northern CA to Irvine. You know the reason.
Also I just talk about facts about the Juniper and others, but you started personal attack to try to protest how good Juniper is and how fair the prices are. Did anyone taught you to be rude? You stated that you didn't want to be a jerk. But you are!
Please don't compare the Northern CA to Irvine. You know the reason.
Also I just talk about facts about the Juniper and others, but you started personal attack to try to protest how good Juniper is and how fair the prices are. Did anyone taught you to be rude? You stated that you didn't want to be a jerk. But you are!
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Perspective
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I think it's fair to describe Juniper as over-priced considering the comparable new home prices and mello roos terms in other neighborhoods, in addition to Juniper's own price reductions since its grand opening.
No I am not representing Juniper Sales Staff.
I could have brought up Quail Hill/Laguna Altura/Turtle Rock too as comparisons. Those communities per square footage are the priciest (aside from Shady Canyon) in Irvine. Someone who subjectively does not feel that those locations are better, who does not value being away from the denser pockets of Irvine, who does not value a hilly landscape could easily come to the "conclusions" that those communities are "overpriced". I just go back to supply and demand. Anything can only be overpriced in absolute terms if no one is buying.
I was not trying to personally attack you. I would also like to point out I never said talked about "how good Juniper is and how fair the price is."
I could have brought up Quail Hill/Laguna Altura/Turtle Rock too as comparisons. Those communities per square footage are the priciest (aside from Shady Canyon) in Irvine. Someone who subjectively does not feel that those locations are better, who does not value being away from the denser pockets of Irvine, who does not value a hilly landscape could easily come to the "conclusions" that those communities are "overpriced". I just go back to supply and demand. Anything can only be overpriced in absolute terms if no one is buying.
I was not trying to personally attack you. I would also like to point out I never said talked about "how good Juniper is and how fair the price is."
gld2 said:
Perspective
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4 Large Lot Homesites for Sale:
Lot 40 ? Walnut (3,328 sqft) $1,394,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Loft, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage
Lot Size: 6,520 sqft
Lot 41 ? Sycamore (3,150 sqft) $1,356,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Bonus Room, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage w/Storage
Lot Size: 9,190 sqft
Lot 42 ? Walnut (3,328 sqft) $1,399,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Loft, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage
Lot Size: 6,560 sqft
Lot 43 ? Hickory (2,897 sqft) $1,239,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Bonus Room, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage w/Storage
Lot Size: 5,430 sqft
Lot 40 ? Walnut (3,328 sqft) $1,394,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Loft, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage
Lot Size: 6,520 sqft
Lot 41 ? Sycamore (3,150 sqft) $1,356,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Bonus Room, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage w/Storage
Lot Size: 9,190 sqft
Lot 42 ? Walnut (3,328 sqft) $1,399,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Loft, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage
Lot Size: 6,560 sqft
Lot 43 ? Hickory (2,897 sqft) $1,239,880
Two-Story, 4 Bedrooms, 4.5 Baths, Den, Bonus Room, Covered Patio, 2-Car Garage w/Storage
Lot Size: 5,430 sqft
irvinehomeowner
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While Lot 41 at 9000sft+ seems like a good buy, that one is on the corner of Cadence, one of the entry streets to BP.
It's also one of the closest to the cemetery.
#polterdiscount
It's also one of the closest to the cemetery.
#polterdiscount
