Irvine residents should dispute their home purchase, apartment lease

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I think Marsha has an agenda. She's either involved with one of those marine lawsuits or her ex got the house in a nasty divorce settlement. She could also be one of those pro-airport supporters that frequently write comments on the OC Register.



If Marsha is right, I want to be part of a class action lawsuit so I can blame the contaminated water on something or everything that is wrong with me and get a huge settlement.
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1247103082][quote author="MojoJD" date=1247095624]I think Marsha is a troll.</blockquote>


Might be, but the Villages of Columbus still suck.</blockquote>


why? its not so bad
 
[quote author="sad.machine" date=1247123962]can someone expand on the contamination? what is it from? uranium shells?</blockquote>


The menu includes TCE, used as a degreaser for aircraft engine parts... Radium 226, PCE, and others. I'm too tired to search for our link to threads here but a simple Google search will do ya.
 
Here is a consolidation of all her posts - all in the same subject, nothing else. You be the judge if she is a troll or not.



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March 9th, 2009</span>

Yea, I know all about that and far more the city of Irvine doesn?t want anybody to know about. For example, Larry Agran pledged testing would be done, but weeks later, it hasn?t. And what about all that ?hush-hush? water testing being done over in Santa Ana where Irvine gets its water? That?s been kept quiet also so as not to alarm Irvine residents. Watch out Irvine, this is just the tip of the iceberg.



<span style="color: blue;">March 10th, 2009</span>

es, we?ve seen the articles. But unfortunately, the Register?despite having the information?hasn?t reported anywhere near the whole story. My neighbors and I have been researching this ourselves for months uncovering all sorts of memos, documents, maps, etc. showing how bad this contamination really is. Do yourselfves a favor; do some digging on your own, and you will be shocked at what you find. This contamination matter has become one of the biggest cover-ups in Irvine since its inception in 1971.

The people that have done the best investigative work on this are at www.eltoronow.com a site that contains information my neighbors and I have verified through other sources.

There is a silver lining: If Irvine residents were smart, they would ask to get their property re-assessed by the tax office because doing so could save strapped Irvine residents thousands. This is what I and a few of my neighborsw are working on doing.



<span style="color: blue;">March 10th, 2009</span>

A bunch of us in Irvine have done exhaustive research and we discovered TCE exists in other parts of the country, and guess what? Lots of cancers and other illnesses linked to the contamination. With just a little work, you can discover this info yourself on the web. For example, visit tceblog.com and watch the video.

As far as those houses in escrow, I bet you these new buyers aren?t being told about the contamination even though the law requires its disclosure. We have caught many Irvine realtors lying about the presence of the contamination.

How would you feel if you bought in Irvine on top of the contamination but weren?t told about it prior to the sale? This is exactly what has happened to thousands of homeowners in Irvine.



<span style="color: blue;">April 5th, 2009</span>

Do you know if the contamination under Irvine was disclosed to each of these folks who are on your ?closed sales? list?

Many realtors are trying to sell properties in Irvine without telling people about the massive amount of contamination under Irvine that?s been migrating from El toro for years?it?s been around since at least 1985!

If you are a realtor, are you telling your clients about the contamination, or are you hiding it like other realtors are?



<span style="color: blue;">April 5th, 2009</span>

Imagine living in Irvine and suddenly finding out your house you paid big bucks for sits right on top of a toxic plume of contamination that?s been migrating from the former El Toro base for years. Well, that?s what hapened to me and my husband; a subject we have been doing a lot of research on. Today, I talked with a realtor who told me houses in Irvine that are on top of or anywhere near this contamination are likely worthless because most buyers?if they knew about the contamination?wouldn?t buy any home that sits on top of or anywhere near toxic contaminaiton. I can only wonder what is going to happen when other Irvine residents suddenly realize their homes are in the same situation my home is in. Imagine living in a home that nobody would want to buy if you had to sell it. Imagine what could happen to your health insurance if your insurance provider discovered you live in a toxic area like we do in Irvine. Imagine what could happen to your homeowner?s insurance if the company issuing the policy found out about the toxic plume under your house. The sad thing is this is not just a Woodbridge issue; many other Irvine neighborhoods are impacted just the same. The city of Irvine knows all about this mess, but they haven?t offered any assistance except to turn a deaf ear. Meanwhile, Irvine realtors continue to try to sell homes in Irvine without saying a thing about the contamination despite being asked. I look forward to the day when a class-action lawsuit is brought forth by angry Irvine residents because having a home that?s worthless is sure to get a lot of Irvine residents hopping mad when they find out they?ve been duped.

I continue to follow ElToroNow.com because they seem to be the only organization reporting on this.

We Irvine residents deserve better, and I can only hope some attorneys take notice of what?s happening and take action.



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April 7th, 2009</span>

Yes, from what I have been able to gather, the plume has reached the wells in santa ana, and there is evidence that shows this dates back several years. In february, there was an article in the OC Register talking about how the ocwd was going to do some more testing in that area to see how far the plume has spread. The bad part of all this is the fact that this is the area where the wells are that distribute water to irvine residents. Reports I saw on eltoronow.com show concentrations of tce were found in the well area going back several years at least. The more i dig, the more i find?info that shows we have been lied to about this for a very long time. Perhaps this may explain the high level of cancers in irvine. Even hoag hospital said irvine has a high rate of breast cancers; breast cancer just so happens to be one of the things tce causes. A boston doctor said tce exposure is ?like a world trade center in slow motion?you wouldn?t know it was happening to you until it was too late.?

This has turned out to be a huge irvine cover-up the irwd, the city of irvine, realtors, and others don?t want irvine residents to know about. The tough part is nobody can sell their houses who live atop or near the contamination because of a law that says the contamination must be revealed to the new buyer otherwise you can get sued later for failing to disclose.

If I can uncover this info, others can too?it just takes a little effort.

If irvine residents only knew what was really going on?



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July 6th, 2009</span>

It?s my understanding several folks in Irvine are in the process of challenging their home purchase/mortgage because they were not told about the contamination under the city of Irvine, and they?re really smart to do so! Thousands of Irvine homes have been sold to buyers without notifying the buyers of what lies beneath i.e. the contamination from the closed El Toro Marine base in Irvine. Friends, this is akin to fraud according to several experts I have spoken with. My husband and I continue to speak with Irvine residents about this and guess what? Almost everyone we have spoken with said they knew nothing about the toxic contamination under Irvine. This same group of experts also told me there could soon be a home-value collapse in major parts of Irvine because of this issue, an issue that?s been keep secret for a long time. The big question that remains is just who will compensate Irvine residents for their lost property values? Irvine renters should also dispute their apartment leases for the very same reason?outright fraud!
 
Has anyone noticed that

<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/R84d2qEvvPI/AAAAAAAAJx4/q7v6oK74ghU/s320/marsha-brady.jpg" alt="" />

makes a post and doesn't reply to anything. An obvious troll. But she is entertaining kinda like Bubbles the Chimp.
 
[quote author="ABC123" date=1247102004]I think Marsha has an agenda. She's either involved with one of those marine lawsuits or her ex got the house in a nasty divorce settlement. She could also be one of those pro-airport supporters that frequently write comments on the OC Register.



If Marsha is right, I want to be part of a class action lawsuit so I can blame the contaminated water on something or everything that is wrong with me and get a huge settlement.</blockquote>


You might be just who "lawyer Marsha" is looking for.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1247022173]Just remember that the spokesperson for VelSpar stated in an OC Register article that the street called "The District" (the one closest to Best Buy and In&Out;) wasn't supposed to be the main entrance. You're supposed to use Tustin Ranch/Von Karman... the one that's marked as "alternate" access based on the road signs.



Those planners are so full of it.

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That's actually true. The District was designed to primarily serve the residents in Tustin Legacy, which will all be located north and west of the District, and will utilize the main entrances off Tustin Ranch Road.
 
Air Pollution From Freeway Extends One And A Half Miles Away



ScienceDaily (June 28, 2009) ? Environmental health researchers from UCLA, the University of Southern California and the California Air Resources Board have found that during the hours before sunrise, freeway air pollution extends much further than previously thought.



Air pollutants from Interstate 10 in Santa Monica extend as far as 2,500 meters ? more than 1.5 miles ? downwind, based on recent measurements from a research team headed by Dr. Arthur Winer, a professor of environmental health sciences at the UCLA School of Public Health. This distance is 10 times greater than previously measured daytime pollutant impacts from roadways and has significant exposure implications, since most people are in their homes during the hours before sunrise and outdoor pollutants penetrate into indoor environments.



The study was published last month in the journal Atmospheric Environment, with Dr. Shishan Hu, a postdoctoral scholar at the UCLA School of Public Health, as lead author.



"To measure the pollution levels, we equipped an electric vehicle with no emissions of its own with fast-response instruments for gaseous and particulate air pollutants, a GPS and video monitor, and instruments to measure temperature and winds," Winer said. "In both winter and summer of 2008, we drove toward and away from Interstate 10 on a route perpendicular to the freeway in Santa Monica between the hours of 4 a.m. and 7 a.m."



A second striking finding of the study was that although traffic volumes are lower in the pre-sunrise hours, the air pollution concentrations measured by the team were higher than even those during daytime traffic congestion peaks. Concentrations are higher before sunrise even though emissions are lower because of the unique weather conditions. In the pre-sunrise hours, wind speeds are generally very low, and while the wind direction is somewhat variable, the predominant direction is from the northeast in the winter months and the northwest in the summer months.



Numerous epidemiologic studies have already shown that traffic-related pollution is linked to increased risk of asthma, respiratory illness, cardiovascular disease and premature mortality.



The researchers recommend that residents living near freeways should consider keeping their windows closed at night and minimize outdoor exercise near major roadways in the hours before sunrise.



Catalina Island is safe.
 
[quote author="Snooby" date=1247313136][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1247022173]Just remember that the spokesperson for VelSpar stated in an OC Register article that the street called "The District" (the one closest to Best Buy and In&Out;) wasn't supposed to be the main entrance. You're supposed to use Tustin Ranch/Von Karman... the one that's marked as "alternate" access based on the road signs.



Those planners are so full of it.

</blockquote>


That's actually true. The District was designed to primarily serve the residents in Tustin Legacy, which will all be located north and west of the District, and will utilize the main entrances off Tustin Ranch Road.</blockquote>


It's the same with Columbus Square. The main entrance is actually off Valencia (facing south) and not Edinger (facing north) as most people think. It's only because Legacy Park isn't built out yet that it seems that way.
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1246963896]The firm that did the disaster at Tustin Marketplace did a similar disaster in Fresno at Riverpark.



I think this was BK and my first bonding experience.</blockquote>


I was there last week in 104 degree heat. Krispy Kreme went out of business and replaced by Chick Fil La. Parking was still a nightmare there with too many twists and turns. There at Riverpark the main drive also parallel to the big box storefronts and I was imagining the shoppers coming out from the stores were my bowling pins. and those red balls in front of Target the bowling balls.



The firm was Perkowith Ruth aka PR Architects.



Despite of Legacy's parking disaster it is still one of the well positioned Power Center in Tustin/Irvine. The tenant mix is very successful. Brick and mortar stores, eateries, and entertainment all in one center. TJ Maxx Home Goods is a popular hang out for stay home moms.
 
[quote author="Snooby" date=1247313136][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1247022173]Just remember that the spokesperson for VelSpar stated in an OC Register article that the street called "The District" (the one closest to Best Buy and In&Out;) wasn't supposed to be the main entrance. You're supposed to use Tustin Ranch/Von Karman... the one that's marked as "alternate" access based on the road signs.



Those planners are so full of it.

</blockquote>


That's actually true. The District was designed to primarily serve the residents in Tustin Legacy, which will all be located north and west of the District, and will utilize the main entrances off Tustin Ranch Road.</blockquote>
I don't believe it.



It's a power shopping center which means it serves the larger regional area and the mix of shops seems to cater to a higher income demographic. That means most of the residents will either come from the south or east (Irvine) and north off of Jamboree (Tustin Ranch etc). The main entrances there are Warner and Millikan/The District. In addition, the high traffic stores are on the east side of the District (save for Target).



This is like saying the Spectrum is primarily for the Village residents.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1247834357][quote author="Snooby" date=1247313136]That's actually true. The District was designed to primarily serve the residents in Tustin Legacy, which will all be located north and west of the District, and will utilize the main entrances off Tustin Ranch Road.</blockquote>
I don't believe it.



It's a power shopping center which means it serves the larger regional area and the mix of shops seems to cater to a higher income demographic. That means most of the residents will either come from the south or east (Irvine) and north off of Jamboree (Tustin Ranch etc). The main entrances there are Warner and Millikan/The District. In addition, the high traffic stores are on the east side of the District (save for Target).



This is like saying the Spectrum is primarily for the Village residents.</blockquote>


Whoa... whoa... the majority of <a href="http://www.tustinlegacy.com/">Tustin Legacy</a> has hardly been graded. There are still about 3000 units to be developed by Shea on the Air Base. Once that starts to come to fruition, then the District will be primarily serving the residents of Tustin Legacy.



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Tustin Ranch Road will go through from the 5 to the development eventually. This will be the main entrance once it becomes a reality.



So while the District pulls the majority from outside of Tustin Legacy currently, eventually they will become the majority. They were planning ahead. It will continue to pull from outside the Legacy, but that is not what it was planned for. People get used to the center, enjoy the shops and the food, and hopefully will want to live there. As for your "higher income" demographic, they will also come from Tustin Legacy, because there is a significant portion of the land dedicated to low density housing. I.E. 10k sqft. lots and bigger homes. As long as Tustin holds out to this, then thank you city of Tustin, for not allowing high density see your neighbor from your bathroom window cracker boxes. Trust me, the plan was to service TL, not the outlying areas. The plan was also to be breaking ground next year and selling homes on TL... but things have changed.
 
[quote author="frank69m" date=1247139378]Has anyone noticed that

<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bkFIPLIOGL8/R84d2qEvvPI/AAAAAAAAJx4/q7v6oK74ghU/s320/marsha-brady.jpg" alt="" />

makes a post and doesn't reply to anything. An obvious troll. But she is entertaining kinda like Bubbles the Chimp.</blockquote>


If she's a troll, she's not very original. Going on a few months and and only one topic. Part of the fun of doing a troll is keeping your character going and coming up with new topics.



Delroy
 
[quote author="graphrix" date=1247846291][quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1247834357][quote author="Snooby" date=1247313136]That's actually true. The District was designed to primarily serve the residents in Tustin Legacy, which will all be located north and west of the District, and will utilize the main entrances off Tustin Ranch Road.</blockquote>
I don't believe it.



It's a power shopping center which means it serves the larger regional area and the mix of shops seems to cater to a higher income demographic. That means most of the residents will either come from the south or east (Irvine) and north off of Jamboree (Tustin Ranch etc). The main entrances there are Warner and Millikan/The District. In addition, the high traffic stores are on the east side of the District (save for Target).



This is like saying the Spectrum is primarily for the Village residents.</blockquote>


Whoa... whoa... the majority of <a href="http://www.tustinlegacy.com/">Tustin Legacy</a> has hardly been graded. There are still about 3000 units to be developed by Shea on the Air Base. Once that starts to come to fruition, then the District will be primarily serving the residents of Tustin Legacy.

</blockquote>
I still doubt this. Tustin Marketplace long served residents of both Tustin and Irvine. People from Irvine go to the District Costco because it's bigger than Tustin's and closer than the Spectrum. This goes for any of the outlying cities.

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Tustin Ranch Road will go through from the 5 to the development eventually. This will be the main entrance once it becomes a reality.

</blockquote>
Even if this is the case, most of the customers will probably spend time on the east side of the District which is really only convenient via car and if you've seen how crowded the two internal roads that lead to that area are, this is a nightmare. Even if it were to be accessed mainly by pedestrians, that is even worse, as one poster put it... it's like real-life Frogger. The layout, parking and internal access roads are horrible.

<blockquote>

So while the District pulls the majority from outside of Tustin Legacy currently, eventually they will become the majority. They were planning ahead. It will continue to pull from outside the Legacy, but that is not what it was planned for. People get used to the center, enjoy the shops and the food, and hopefully will want to live there. As for your "higher income" demographic, they will also come from Tustin Legacy, because there is a significant portion of the land dedicated to low density housing. I.E. 10k sqft. lots and bigger homes. As long as Tustin holds out to this, then thank you city of Tustin, for not allowing high density see your neighbor from your bathroom window cracker boxes. Trust me, the plan was to service TL, not the outlying areas. The plan was also to be breaking ground next year and selling homes on TL... but things have changed.</blockquote>
Like I said... even if this happens, this doesn't change the fact that there will still be some major access from the south and east sides of the District. Couple that with the increased traffic from Legacy and the District is going to be one of the worst centers to visit. Remember how bad the Spectrum was before they build the parking structures? Or the Block?



See... most of you don't go to the District very often so I can understand your opinions, but I go there very frequently and I abhor it every time (I think the Best Buy employees know me on a first name basis).
 
I think some of you who think that the District doesn't have a major traffic/parking problem have probably not been there very much. And for those who need pictures to see what I'm talking about (cough-graph-cough), here you go:



<img src="http://i30.tinypic.com/iygd9e.jpg" alt="" />



See those red areas? That's where there is major vehicle congestion at lunchtime, after 5pm and many times during the weekend.



The green areas? That's where people have to walk to and fro from the closest parking (the teal areas), notice how they intersect with the congested traffic areas? Frogger indeed.



Why did I mark those parking areas in teal? Because those parking areas have to service at least 6 eating establishments, Whole Foods, Micheal's, Best Buy, TJMaxx, 2 banks and are the closest to the east side of the Promenade namely Border's Books, the coffee shop and a handful of eateries. And even when you do park there... you have to run for your life across the crosswalks because some people don't know what right of way for pedestrians means.



Not to mention going to the AMC... sure you can park on the west side but do you see how far that is (the purple line)? There is a small parking lot not on this map that is closer to the theatre on the west side but that usually fills up fast during high time and then you fight with all the Seafood/Schmidts customers on the next closest lot.



I will now return the grouchy pants to graph (they are probably too big for him now because I stretched them out).
 
[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1246963896]The firm that did the disaster at Tustin Marketplace did a similar disaster in Fresno at Riverpark.

I think this was BK and my first bonding experience.</blockquote>Tustin MarketPlace or The District ?



I dont find parking at the Marketplace too bad. The District is horrible especially if trying to see a movie, or go to Whole Foods or Best Buy.
 
The parking at Tustin Marketplace is ill conceived and annoying, but it would never keep me from going there. I don't remember the last time I went to The District and that is mainly because traffic is such a disaster there.
 
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