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"Should'a, would'a, could'a." It's easy to say what you would do until you're actually in that situation. Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. What's ironic is if you ask anyone who knows me IRL, ***I*** am always the one saying it's not worth a confrontation -- our lives are clearly worth more. However, until it actually happens, you don't know for sure what you would do. I was surprised by how my instincts kicked in. You don't have much time to analyze the situation or play armchair quarterback. I didn't expect to this to happen today. Your fight/flight/freeze kicks in and one will win. I wanted her to stay safely away from my property and my child but to be held accountable for being there in the first place so that others don't get victimized. Not to mention, I wanted my damn box before she put her paws on it! When I opened the door, I wasn't threatening. I said, "Can I help you?" She stood there, speechless, just staring at me. She looked stunned and "out of it". She just murmered, "Umm. Uhhh." I sized her up from there. She was either shocked or high or both. She even looked a little scared. I actually felt compassion for her because she looked like she needed a bath and to get her life turned around. If I felt she was a real threat, I would have walked away and locked the door but I stood my ground and let hit her with the reality that I know what's up. I said, "I think you're here for something. I think you're here for this." After standing there a little while like a zombie, she calmly walked away and drove off. I hope none of you has this happen. I hope she realizes how stupid her actions are (in broad daylight, no less) and quits doing it so it doesn't happen again.
#interesting
1. Next time if this happens let it go. Just remember this incident was over a box of Kcups. You most likely would have been reimbursed by the company.
2. If you must confront the person next time, think about the following: packing heat, folding buck knife. (have it concealed)
3. Also, if you want to get her prosecuted, let her take the package, and write down her license plate. #211Robbery
Yes, Tweeker Angela!
She was a tweeker if I ever saw one. 3" dark roots, scrawny, unhealthy complexion, paranoia, and obviously a problem with stealing. Feel bad for her actually. In hindsight, I wish I would have offered her some help or prayed with her on the spot. We were both just stunned, though. O_O
1. Those Momma Bear instincts are very, very strong. Until they attempt something, you don't know what they're going to do. Who knows, maybe she would have tried to get inside the house as well since she believed nobody was home. (I'm the rare person who actually uses their garage and has no cars parked out front.) I wasn't going to let this tweeker, who was there with bad intentions, get close enough to my home and my baby to find out how far she wanted to take this.
2. I agree. As a matter of fact, I am a proud supporter of our second amendment rights.
3. Yes, what I'm thinking about doing is this: Order a big, cheap package off of Amazon. Like paper towels. Or maybe a box of spring-loaded toy snakes would be more fun. Get it with a gift receipt / message. My doorstep is highly visible. Leave the box there until it's stolen. When they open it, they can read the message: "Congratulations. Your face and vehicle have been recorded and turned over to the police."
A potential assailant doesn't need a gun to hurt you. At distance of 10 feet, even if you had your hand on a holstered pistol, an assailant can stab you with sharp object faster than you can draw. If you were able to draw a weapon, statistically trained officers (NYPD stats) only has 38% hit rate per shot vs assailant at 0-2 yards. The situation is made worse by the fact that most soft body armor are not stab/spike resistant. Body armor that can resist .44 magnum rounds can be pierced with an ice pick.
If you had a metal security door or a sizable dog, it would have offered more deterrence. But the issue remains that we cannot always be home to monitor incoming packages. I pay for a PO BOX at the UPS store for this reason, and usually have my packages shipped there instead.
If you guys are seriously interested in this stuff, talk to a correction facility (jail) employee. They face threats from improvised blades, shanks/spikes, hypodermic needles, etc.
You could wear heavy steel ballistic plates in your vest and someone can still stab you in the eye:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/student-stabs-man-eye-christian-7207215
Looks heavier than your thief:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/anaheim-701390-hills-packages.html
Maybe they are related tho.
socal78
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Happiness said:
"Should'a, would'a, could'a." It's easy to say what you would do until you're actually in that situation. Maybe you would, maybe you wouldn't. What's ironic is if you ask anyone who knows me IRL, ***I*** am always the one saying it's not worth a confrontation -- our lives are clearly worth more. However, until it actually happens, you don't know for sure what you would do. I was surprised by how my instincts kicked in. You don't have much time to analyze the situation or play armchair quarterback. I didn't expect to this to happen today. Your fight/flight/freeze kicks in and one will win. I wanted her to stay safely away from my property and my child but to be held accountable for being there in the first place so that others don't get victimized. Not to mention, I wanted my damn box before she put her paws on it! When I opened the door, I wasn't threatening. I said, "Can I help you?" She stood there, speechless, just staring at me. She looked stunned and "out of it". She just murmered, "Umm. Uhhh." I sized her up from there. She was either shocked or high or both. She even looked a little scared. I actually felt compassion for her because she looked like she needed a bath and to get her life turned around. If I felt she was a real threat, I would have walked away and locked the door but I stood my ground and let hit her with the reality that I know what's up. I said, "I think you're here for something. I think you're here for this." After standing there a little while like a zombie, she calmly walked away and drove off. I hope none of you has this happen. I hope she realizes how stupid her actions are (in broad daylight, no less) and quits doing it so it doesn't happen again.
socal78
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I also just want to make it clear that if this were a big black guy or Qwerty or scary Iho, I WOULD NOT HAVE OPENED THAT DOOR. However, THIS is the thief. Here are the real pics taken from my camera and zoomed in. I wasn't very afraid of a skinny young blond woman. SHE, on the other hand, should be terrified of this tall, fiery redhead right here! 
I felt confidant I could take her down, no problem. She backed off so she probably thought so, too. She has her hands on her hips because she was mimicking me standing like that, while telling her I know what's up and asking her what the heck she's thinking. She had nothing to say! Not "Wrong address", not "I'm selling cookies", not "I lost my dog"... nothing.
The car is a white Chrysler convertible with the black top rolled up. If I can crop the pic later, I'll post it.
I felt confidant I could take her down, no problem. She backed off so she probably thought so, too. She has her hands on her hips because she was mimicking me standing like that, while telling her I know what's up and asking her what the heck she's thinking. She had nothing to say! Not "Wrong address", not "I'm selling cookies", not "I lost my dog"... nothing.
The car is a white Chrysler convertible with the black top rolled up. If I can crop the pic later, I'll post it.
SoCal said:I also just want to make it clear that if this were a big black guy or Qwerty or scary Iho, I WOULD NOT HAVE OPENED THAT DOOR. However, THIS is the thief. Here are the real pics taken from my camera and zoomed in. I wasn't very afraid of a skinny young blond woman. SHE, on the other hand, should be terrified of this tall, fiery redhead right here!
The car is a white Chrysler convertible with the black top rolled up. If I can crop the pic later, I'll post it.
#interesting
1. Next time if this happens let it go. Just remember this incident was over a box of Kcups. You most likely would have been reimbursed by the company.
2. If you must confront the person next time, think about the following: packing heat, folding buck knife. (have it concealed)
3. Also, if you want to get her prosecuted, let her take the package, and write down her license plate. #211Robbery
J
jmoney74
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About time someone invented a safe spot to deliver packages to homes.
socal78
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ps9 said:
Yes, Tweeker Angela!
She was a tweeker if I ever saw one. 3" dark roots, scrawny, unhealthy complexion, paranoia, and obviously a problem with stealing. Feel bad for her actually. In hindsight, I wish I would have offered her some help or prayed with her on the spot. We were both just stunned, though. O_O
Ready2Downsize
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How about this?
When I originally went to the post office to inquire (and then complain) about not having mail service in Tustin Legacy because I have outgoing mail daily (although my key worked in the installed cluster boxes, the outgoing mail boxes were open and not locked) I was told, "oh you should never use those outgoing mail boxes! They are pried open daily all over Tustin and Irvine. Every day we get complaints on stolen outgoing mail".
So.............. the post office knowingly provides a place that isn't even close to being a secure location to drop mail off.
The solution, according to the person at the P.O. is to drive around and find one of the old style blue free standing post office drop boxes and use that.
Yes, but I really don't want to use those. The carrier from my old house told me to never use THOSE because there are a lot of instances where people throw liquids (or even fire crackers) into those boxes which would ruin the mail I send out.
Maybe they need internet cameras on all of their mailboxes.
When I originally went to the post office to inquire (and then complain) about not having mail service in Tustin Legacy because I have outgoing mail daily (although my key worked in the installed cluster boxes, the outgoing mail boxes were open and not locked) I was told, "oh you should never use those outgoing mail boxes! They are pried open daily all over Tustin and Irvine. Every day we get complaints on stolen outgoing mail".
So.............. the post office knowingly provides a place that isn't even close to being a secure location to drop mail off.
The solution, according to the person at the P.O. is to drive around and find one of the old style blue free standing post office drop boxes and use that.
Yes, but I really don't want to use those. The carrier from my old house told me to never use THOSE because there are a lot of instances where people throw liquids (or even fire crackers) into those boxes which would ruin the mail I send out.
Maybe they need internet cameras on all of their mailboxes.
socal78
Well-known member
eyephone said:
1. Those Momma Bear instincts are very, very strong. Until they attempt something, you don't know what they're going to do. Who knows, maybe she would have tried to get inside the house as well since she believed nobody was home. (I'm the rare person who actually uses their garage and has no cars parked out front.) I wasn't going to let this tweeker, who was there with bad intentions, get close enough to my home and my baby to find out how far she wanted to take this.
2. I agree. As a matter of fact, I am a proud supporter of our second amendment rights.
3. Yes, what I'm thinking about doing is this: Order a big, cheap package off of Amazon. Like paper towels. Or maybe a box of spring-loaded toy snakes would be more fun. Get it with a gift receipt / message. My doorstep is highly visible. Leave the box there until it's stolen. When they open it, they can read the message: "Congratulations. Your face and vehicle have been recorded and turned over to the police."
momopi
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SoCal said:
A potential assailant doesn't need a gun to hurt you. At distance of 10 feet, even if you had your hand on a holstered pistol, an assailant can stab you with sharp object faster than you can draw. If you were able to draw a weapon, statistically trained officers (NYPD stats) only has 38% hit rate per shot vs assailant at 0-2 yards. The situation is made worse by the fact that most soft body armor are not stab/spike resistant. Body armor that can resist .44 magnum rounds can be pierced with an ice pick.
If you had a metal security door or a sizable dog, it would have offered more deterrence. But the issue remains that we cannot always be home to monitor incoming packages. I pay for a PO BOX at the UPS store for this reason, and usually have my packages shipped there instead.
irvinehomeowner
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Can body armor protect against icicle guns?
#throwback
#throwback
momopi
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WTTCHMN said:
If you guys are seriously interested in this stuff, talk to a correction facility (jail) employee. They face threats from improvised blades, shanks/spikes, hypodermic needles, etc.
You could wear heavy steel ballistic plates in your vest and someone can still stab you in the eye:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/student-stabs-man-eye-christian-7207215
Ready2Downsize
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jmoney74 said:
Looks heavier than your thief:
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/anaheim-701390-hills-packages.html
Maybe they are related tho.
socal78
Well-known member
More crime to report.
I got a call from Irvine P.D. today. The detective thinks my thief is a match for one that hit up another house in Irvine in December. That woman was also captured on that homeowner's security system as well. The detective wanted me to do a comparison since I'm the only one who has been face-to-face with her. Here's the flyer he sent me. There, she's driving a 7 series BMW -- I'm guessing stolen. The lady has got the same boots, same pants, and same undershirt. That's her. Go steal yo'self a new outfit, girl!
I got a call from Irvine P.D. today. The detective thinks my thief is a match for one that hit up another house in Irvine in December. That woman was also captured on that homeowner's security system as well. The detective wanted me to do a comparison since I'm the only one who has been face-to-face with her. Here's the flyer he sent me. There, she's driving a 7 series BMW -- I'm guessing stolen. The lady has got the same boots, same pants, and same undershirt. That's her. Go steal yo'self a new outfit, girl!