ICE or EV?

Which car(s) will you be buying next?

  • ICE ICE Baby (morekaos dinosaur option)

    Votes: 13 31.0%

  • EV forEVa (unicorns for all)

    Votes: 23 54.8%

  • PHEV (I still have range anxiety)

    Votes: 4 9.5%

  • Hybrid (can't plug in yet)

    Votes: 5 11.9%

  • Alternative fuel (Hydrogen, vegetable oil, etc)

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • Total voters
    42
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irvinehomeowner said:
EV scorecard:

Tesla IHO wins
Rivian IHO yes, morekaos no
Lucid IHO neutral, morekaos no
Chinese EVs (BYD,Nio,etc) IHO yes, morekaos no
VinFast IHO no, morekaos no
Fisker IHO doubtful, moreaos ?
Big 3 IHO yes, morekaos doomed
Big 3 Asian (Honda, Toyota, Hyundai/Kia) IHO yes, morekaos no
Euro IHO yes, morekaos no

Is the above right?
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not looking so good IHO…🤦🏽‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂🦄🌈

Chinese EV stocks tank after Tesla earnings disappoint​

  • Hong Kong-listed shares of Chinese EV makers plunged Thursday morning after Tesla CEO Elon Musk delivered grim news on Tesla’s outlook on Wednesday.
  • BYD and XPeng fell 2.18% and 8.76% respectively. Li Auto slid 3.14% while Nio and Geely dropped 8.36% and 3.97% respectively in Hong Kong.
  • Tesla posted lower-than-expected third-quarter results on Wednesday where the company missed earnings and sales estimates.

  • https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/19/chinese-ev-stocks-fall-after-teslas-disappointing-q3-results.html?
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
Just a blip.

I saw some headline that some one bought a bunch of Nio stock... can't remember who and too morekaosy to search.
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…a 30% loss in just a few weeks is…”just a blip”?…you are a forgiving soul, easy to say from the peanut gallery but real clients with real money would not be so generous. I have to play with real money in the big boy game, not the teachers lounge🤷🏽‍♂️. DNB bought some shares…doomed…

Why NIO (NYSE:NIO) May Face a Reckoning in Its Home Market​

MSN

www.msn.com
 
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irvinehomeowner said:
Yet the end of your article (which I know you never read) recommends buy:


Today, Evercore ISI’s Chris McNally upgraded the rating on Rivian to a Buy from a Hold while raising the price target on the stock to $35. Overall, the Street has a consensus price target of $28.20 on Rivian, alongside a Moderate Buy consensus rating.


Illiterate gonna illiterate.
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Remember now?
 
cleanenergyrevolution.co

$2,500 EV Rebate Program Just Launched in Texas - Clean Energy Revolution

The EV rebate program will operate on a first come, first served basis. Only 2,000 rebates will be distributed in total.
cleanenergyrevolution.co cleanenergyrevolution.co

How will moretroll deal with this? His favorite state just launched $2500 EV rebate program.

"The government of Texas has announced rebates on select electric vehicle (EV) purchases, including certain Tesla models, through a time-limited grant program.

The program is granting rebates of up to $2,500."
 
The Carney show unmasked…Barkers are everywhere…just one big scam!....🤦🏽‍♂️😂🦄🌈

Nikola’s shares surge after disgraced founder Trevor Milton ordered to repay $165 million

· An arbitration panel awarded Nikola $165 million in damages from its founder and ex-CEO Trevor Milton.

· Milton left the company in 2020 and was subsequently convicted of fraud related to false statements he made about Nikola’s tech.

· Nikola had to pay $125 million to settle related charges in 2021.

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/24/nikola-nkla-trevor-milton-damages.html
 
They are throttling production because they aren’t selling!! In your same article Chevy now has to give back money to Bolt owners bc the cars don’t work….this transition is going just swell….🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂😂🦄🌈

Chevy offers $1,400 to Bolt EV owners who endured lower charging levels​

It's part of an expected class-action settlement over battery issues with 2020-22 Bolt EVs and EUVs.​

 
irvinehomeowner said:
Still don't understand why EVs are political?

Was there a divide when smartphones came out? Or the internet? It's so silly.
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This is why…it always has been …😂😂🦄🌈

Could Biden's support for electric cars tank his re-election? 'Woke' EVs are now 'political football,' Ford boss warns, as Trump vows to back gasoline engines

As the presidential battle appears to be taking the shape of a 2020 rematch, Trump and Biden are facing off on the EV issue
  • As UAW union workers remain on strike in Michigan, Republicans criticize the administration's commitment to EVs, while Biden is unwavering in his support
  • In a recent Harvard Harris poll, Trump is outperforming Biden. In a direct match up, Trump is shown winning 52 percent of the vote, and Biden 48

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ump-vows-to-back-gasoline-engines/ar-AA1iF3se

Trump vows to undo Biden’s electric vehicle policies

The former president’s latest attempt to win auto workers’ votes came in a video that accused his successor of imposing “crippling mandates” on the industry.

He said he would target Biden’s update to greenhouse gas emissions limits for cars, proposed in April, which the administration has said would result in about 67 percent of new U.S. auto sales being electric by 2032.

The remarks were Trump’s newest effort to turn Biden’s clean-energy policies into a liability among the Rust Belt voters who could hold the key to victory in next year’s presidential election

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/20/trump-biden-ev-policies-00107437
 
Except that Trump was behind EVs before. Just like he was the one who claimed to spearhead the Covid vax.

So this is still silly.

Tell me... do you disagree with your party on anything?
 
… it’s why they’re my party… Trump was behind EV’s, but not like this. And yes, I was against vaccination mandates…, but not trying to find one.🤷🏽‍♂️😂😂😂
 
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OK, let’s look at this objectively, dollars and cents. This is a pretty broad representation of the entire EV market. Does this look good to you and successful or is this failure? IMG_1075.pngyou decide.
 
More evidence…🤷🏽‍♂️🦄🌈

GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop ‘affordable’ sub-$30,000 EVs​

GM and Honda have canceled plans to jointly develop affordable electric vehicles as they face slower-than-expected demand and changing market conditions.
  • The partnership was expected to use GM’s next-generation Ultium battery technology to produce millions of EVs that cost less than $30,000 for global markets, beginning in 2027.
  • The cancellation is the latest in a growing number of decisions by automakers to scale back or scrap previously announced EV plans.
www.cnbc.com

GM, Honda scrap plans to co-develop 'affordable' sub-$30,000 EVs

The cancellation by GM and Honda is the latest in a growing number of decisions by automakers to scale back or scrap previously announced EV plans.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
Love the smell of napalm in the morning….like I said..all of you who wanted an EV have one. No one else wants them…

Ford will postpone about $12 billion in EV investment as buyers become more cautious​

Ford said customers in North America are unwilling to pay a premium for an EV.
  • The company, in turn, is postponing about $12 billion in EV manufacturing investment.
  • Ford’s Model e EV unit lost about $3.1 billion through three quarters this year.
www.cnbc.com

Ford will postpone about $12 billion in EV investment as buyers become more cautious

Ford said customers in North America are unwilling to pay a premium for an EV.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com
 
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