ICE or EV?
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We've gone through this already, you paid $3.6k, sure, but it's not worth $20k (hey, my kids painting is worth $1m and climbing), unless the transaction goes through, having people say or your neighbors say they'd pay that amount isn't the same thing.
You've also spent money on it (you've even admitted it back in some prior post), based on a restoration bronco site:
gearandcylinder.com
Bronco restoration will cost between $35,000 – $50,000 if it’s in medium condition.
Based on jdpower avg retail is $17k, in order to get the high retail of $29k, you'd need to spend the above
www.jdpower.com
Again, you attempting to make some profound point, nice try, i like the effort!
again, that's a different bronco than yours, off by a decade, different altogether
yours is this year iirc
The average of all Tesla models is about $60,000 to $70,000, and varying trim levels add or subtract around $10,000 in most cases. The Plaid trim is the priciest by far, exceeding $120,000.
There are many EVs lower than $50k... and a few less than $30k, but you keep ignoring that and will respond with some story that you can't get one.
Tesla is not the only EV game in town.
I paid $3600 for that truck two years ago it’s now worth over $20,000 and climbing…that’s 520% in two years. How much had your Tesla appreciated?
We've gone through this already, you paid $3.6k, sure, but it's not worth $20k (hey, my kids painting is worth $1m and climbing), unless the transaction goes through, having people say or your neighbors say they'd pay that amount isn't the same thing.
You've also spent money on it (you've even admitted it back in some prior post), based on a restoration bronco site:
The Cost To Restore An Early Bronco (With Charts) | Gear and Cylinder
If you have an early Bronco you're wanting to restore, or you're thinking about getting one to restore, then congratulations! You have one of the…
gearandcylinder.com
Based on jdpower avg retail is $17k, in order to get the high retail of $29k, you'd need to spend the above
Used 1989 Ford Bronco 2 Door Utility 4X4 Ratings, Values, Reviews & Awards
Get accurate pricing information for a used 1989 Ford Bronco 2 Door Utility 4X4, and explore other options.
www.jdpower.com
Again, you attempting to make some profound point, nice try, i like the effort!
morekaos
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I get offers just driving down the street every week…
www.dailymail.co.uk
Cars from 1990s have soared in value by up to 78%, new report shows
Values for '90s cars have rocketed an average of 78 percent over the past three years, according to Brian Rabold, vice president of automotive intelligence at Hagerty, a firm that monitors the car market.
morekaos
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and that’s a crappy one
Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/9QrvHY5A4wb
Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/9QrvHY5A4wb
I'm sure you get offers every week, just not the ones that you're looking for, obviouslyand that’s a crappy one
Check out this item on OfferUp. https://offerup.co/9QrvHY5A4wb
again, that's a different bronco than yours, off by a decade, different altogether
yours is this year iirc
morekaos
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that was a great deal if I saw it a year ago when he posted it, I would’ve bought it and turned it. Now a well done mule ( like mine) only appreciates.
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irvinehomeowner
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morekaos live in a world where EVs cost $100k and his beat up ICE cars are worth 520% more than he bought it for.
Who is dreaming of unicorns here?
Who is dreaming of unicorns here?
morekaos
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definitely not me
The average of all Tesla models is about $60,000 to $70,000, and varying trim levels add or subtract around $10,000 in most cases. The Plaid trim is the priciest by far, exceeding $120,000.
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irvinehomeowner
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Changing the story again.definitely not me
The average of all Tesla models is about $60,000 to $70,000, and varying trim levels add or subtract around $10,000 in most cases. The Plaid trim is the priciest by far, exceeding $120,000.
There are many EVs lower than $50k... and a few less than $30k, but you keep ignoring that and will respond with some story that you can't get one.
Tesla is not the only EV game in town.
morekaos
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68.7% of all EV sales in California makes them the only game in town
zubs
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If i had a different EV !tesla, I would not be comfortable driving it more than 100 miles away from my home charging.
Palm Springs is almost too far for a round trip.
Tesla beats all others with its super charging stations.
I tried using chargepoint charger up in Santa Barbara with my TeslaY and 10% battery recharge took about 1.5 hours, and a lot of the chargers looked like they were about to break...or were broken. A Tesla supercharger takes about 30 min to charge 50% or 160 miles.
Palm Springs is almost too far for a round trip.
Tesla beats all others with its super charging stations.
I tried using chargepoint charger up in Santa Barbara with my TeslaY and 10% battery recharge took about 1.5 hours, and a lot of the chargers looked like they were about to break...or were broken. A Tesla supercharger takes about 30 min to charge 50% or 160 miles.
marmott
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Good news then, we should see the Supercharger opening up to other EVs in the US.
electrek.co
Tesla leaks ‘Magic Dock’ CCS adapter ahead of opening its Supercharger network
Tesla has leaked the “Magic Dock” CCS adapter in its mobile app ahead of the imminent opening of its Supercharger network in North America.
electrek.co
I so hope not - let them build their own networksGood news then, we should see the Supercharger opening up to other EVs in the US.
Tesla leaks ‘Magic Dock’ CCS adapter ahead of opening its Supercharger network
Tesla has leaked the “Magic Dock” CCS adapter in its mobile app ahead of the imminent opening of its Supercharger network in North America.
morekaos
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And like GM…Ford steps in the EV poo pile…This is not just about execution…they try to obscure the dismal sales and public uptake…again Toyota has it right. American car makers stumble backward through the dark…good job…
Ford posts full-year net loss, ugly fourth quarter as ‘execution issues’ plague operations
· Ford Motor reported an ugly fourth quarter and a full-year net loss.
· The automaker cited “execution issues” that plagued operations. It fell short of expected sales by 100,000 units.
· The company is looking to cut additional costs this year and is not ruling out additional layoffs.
Ford continues to face issues with internal combustion engine vehicles, which are responsible for almost all of Ford’s profits.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/02/for...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail
Ford posts full-year net loss, ugly fourth quarter as ‘execution issues’ plague operations
· Ford Motor reported an ugly fourth quarter and a full-year net loss.
· The automaker cited “execution issues” that plagued operations. It fell short of expected sales by 100,000 units.
· The company is looking to cut additional costs this year and is not ruling out additional layoffs.
Ford continues to face issues with internal combustion engine vehicles, which are responsible for almost all of Ford’s profits.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/02/for...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail
irvinehomeowner
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Just like you quoted, if Ford could produce more EVs, they would be doing better.
And not just EVs, the new Bronco and Maverick have shortages too.
And not just EVs, the new Bronco and Maverick have shortages too.
irvinehomeowner
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Believe it or not:
electrek.co
Do it for the children.
Surprise! Electric cars are already making California healthier
From the “duh” department, California is already becoming more healthy because of electric car penetration, which has resulted in cleaner...
electrek.co
Do it for the children.
The Motor Court Company
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So invest in rental properties near the freeway…noise will still be present but the smog will be much better.Believe it or not:
Surprise! Electric cars are already making California healthier
From the “duh” department, California is already becoming more healthy because of electric car penetration, which has resulted in cleaner...
Do it for the children.
Hugo Township
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Good news for homes along the 133 / 241
morekaos
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It’s a slippery slope…
The Climate Crusaders Are Coming for Electric Cars Too – Report reveals ‘the ultimate goal: tiny, uncomfortable apartments & bicycles for all’
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cl...nergy-power-fossil-fuels-environment-31a692ca
The Climate Crusaders Are Coming for Electric Cars Too – Report reveals ‘the ultimate goal: tiny, uncomfortable apartments & bicycles for all’
Allysia Finley in WSJ: Replacing all gasoline-powered cars with electric vehicles won’t be enough to prevent the world from overheating. So people will have to give up their cars. That’s the alarming conclusion of a new report from the University of California, Davis and “a network of academics and policy experts” called the Climate and Community Project. The report offers an honest look at the vast personal, environmental and economic sacrifices needed to meet the left’s net-zero climate goals. Progressives’ dirty little secret is that everyone will have to make do with much less—fewer cars, smaller houses and yards, and a significantly lower standard of living. ... The report concludes that the auto sector’s “current dominant strategy,” which involves replacing gasoline-powered vehicles with EVs without decreasing car ownership and use, “is likely incompatible” with climate activists’ goal to keep the planet from warming by more than 1.5 degrees Celsius compared with preindustrial times. Instead, the report recommends government policies that promote walking, cycling and mass transit. ...
A Natural Resources Defense Council report last year on lithium mining also concluded that the government needs “to reduce long-term dependency on single-passenger vehicles.” The Inflation Reduction Act included billions of dollars to promote bicycling and so-called livable neighborhoods. ...
California’s Democratic Legislature last year even passed a bill creating a $1,000 tax credit (originally proposed at $7,500) for households that don’t own cars. “We can invest in the future by providing financial incentives for Californians to transition from vehicles to more sustainable options,” state Sen. Anthony Portantino said.
A Natural Resources Defense Council report last year on lithium mining also concluded that the government needs “to reduce long-term dependency on single-passenger vehicles.” The Inflation Reduction Act included billions of dollars to promote bicycling and so-called livable neighborhoods. ...
California’s Democratic Legislature last year even passed a bill creating a $1,000 tax credit (originally proposed at $7,500) for households that don’t own cars. “We can invest in the future by providing financial incentives for Californians to transition from vehicles to more sustainable options,” state Sen. Anthony Portantino said.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-cl...nergy-power-fossil-fuels-environment-31a692ca