How low can we go? 30 yr fixed at 3.75% with no fees...

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A few words to the wise for anyone watching rates fall and wondering what the best path forward is:

1) With low rates comes a "rush to the exit" - meaning processing time will stretch from 60 days to 90 days. Plan accordingly.

2) Trees don't grow to the sky and mortgage rates don't fall to zero. At any moment I'd anticipate a .25% in rate or .50 in fee snap back rally. Should someone from the Royal House of Saudi come out and say they'll begin to pump less oil, or if Greece rejects their Anti-Euro candidates, rates will rise pretty fast. Take what you can because timing the market is very, very difficult - even for professionals.

3) If you closed a purchase or refi within the past 90 days, some lenders can't refi your loan. Ask your loan officer if "seasoning is an issue" and always get the answer in writing.

4) Regretfully, your escrow, title report, and appraisal from your last deal can't be used - even if your refi is through the same lender. I get that question often and may as well burp up the answer ahead of it being asked.

5) Will the Fed raise rates mid 2015? Perhaps, but it often has zero impact on mortgages. Don't make refinance or purchase loan lock plans in relation to a possible Fed rate increase.
 
Day 27 of refi.  Appraiser shows up.  Super intimidating - no nonsense, no small talk.  Had a list of comps to show/give.  Appraiser claims to be "very" familiar with this area so wussed out and decided to keep the comps to myself. 
 
bones said:
Day 27 of refi.  Appraiser shows up.  Super intimidating - no nonsense, no small talk.  Had a list of comps to show/give.  Appraiser claims to be "very" familiar with this area so wussed out and decided to keep the comps to myself. 
It took 27 days for the appraiser to come out?  Wow, that's slow.  I had the appraiser at my home about 9 days after I locked and said to proceed.  Got conditional approval last night with a load of letters of explanations along with providing full back-up for the commission that my broker wired me in the past 3 months.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
bones said:
Day 27 of refi.  Appraiser shows up.  Super intimidating - no nonsense, no small talk.  Had a list of comps to show/give.  Appraiser claims to be "very" familiar with this area so wussed out and decided to keep the comps to myself. 
It took 27 days for the appraiser to come out?  Wow, that's slow.  I had the appraiser at my home about 9 days after I locked and said to proceed.  Got conditional approval last night with a load of letters of explanations along with providing full back-up for the commission that my broker wired me in the past 3 months.

Yea slow appraisal.  But took 40 days to close.  Well within the 60 day discussed upfront.
 
locked a jumbo 30 year fixed for 3.625 with 1 free relock if rate drops at watermark.  this is what they offered me today:

3.5% 30 day - $946 credit
3.5% 45 day - $2275 cost
3.625 30 day - $5077 credit
3.625 45 day - $2802 credit <-- took this one
 
Looks like I just missed the low yesterday, 2.5% with $3800 in credit, could've gotten a nice chunk of change left after closing.  Today is only with $1800 credit.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
ps9 said:
Looks like I just missed the low yesterday, 2.5% with $3800 in credit, could've gotten a nice chunk of change left after closing.  Today is only with $1800 credit.

Lock today!  10 year down to 1.95!
where?  i can't find that info
 
yaliu07 said:
Irvinecommuter said:
ps9 said:
Looks like I just missed the low yesterday, 2.5% with $3800 in credit, could've gotten a nice chunk of change left after closing.  Today is only with $1800 credit.

Lock today!  10 year down to 1.95!
where?  i can't find that info

I think he is talking about the 10 year treasury yield not mortgage rate
 
Irvinecommuter said:
ps9 said:
Looks like I just missed the low yesterday, 2.5% with $3800 in credit, could've gotten a nice chunk of change left after closing.  Today is only with $1800 credit.

Lock today!  10 year down to 1.95!

Hmmm, so come Monday we might see a dip?  My lender said Chase re-prices rates only once a day in the morning and is reflected the following business day after a market dip. 
 
ps9 said:
Irvinecommuter said:
ps9 said:
Looks like I just missed the low yesterday, 2.5% with $3800 in credit, could've gotten a nice chunk of change left after closing.  Today is only with $1800 credit.

Lock today!  10 year down to 1.95!

Hmmm, so come Monday we might see a dip?  My lender said Chase re-prices rates only once a day in the morning and is reflected the following business day after a market dip.

Just call him today and see where you are at.  Monday may be a bounce back day.
 
10y - indicator only.
Mortgage Backed Securities (MBS) - reality.

Plenty of times the 10y stayed stable, while MBS's rose radically or dropped drastically same trading day.

As for Chase re-pricing a day later... pfffft. Everyone changes pricing daily if the MBS swings warrant it.

The big news is the FHA MMI changes. If the refi houses were just ramping up on Conventional volume, the FHA refi volume will clog most companies pipelines. Be sure to take the 60 day lock OR ask what the lenders rate extension policies are. Most banks (not all) will extend for free if your loan is delayed by the bank. Most mortgage bankers and brokers? Need to get the policy it in writing.

See that Impac is buying CashCall?  CC had their share of difficulties over the past 12 months.

My .02c
 
So got a request for another 2 letters of explanations from the underwriter before they approve the loan.  That's 7 letters of explanations.  haha  Looking to close on the refi at the end of this week and if rates fall a bit more Alyson said I'd get half of the additional savings. 
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
So got a request for another 2 letters of explanations from the underwriter before they approve the loan.  That's 7 letters of explanations.  haha  Looking to close on the refi at the end of this week and if rates fall a bit more Alyson said I'd get half of the additional savings.

I went through heck and back for a refinancing attempt and finally dropped it because it dragged on too long.  I can see being careful with a purchase loan but it makes little sense with a refinancing loan where there is a history of payment and the payments are lower.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
I went through heck and back for a refinancing attempt and finally dropped it because it dragged on too long.  I can see being careful with a purchase loan but it makes little sense with a refinancing loan where there is a history of payment and the payments are lower.

Same here. Lost around $500 paying for an appraisal :(
 
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