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jmoney74 said:
The new homes come prewired with Cat 5 through the house.

They do, but the 8 wire pinnings may not match the 568-A or 568-B for ethernet. They use the CAT5 wires for telephone, which may have a slightly different wire pin setup.

I'd try it as is first, and if it doesn't work, something to look at.
 
thatOSguy said:
It is very easy to set it up as an extension of your wireless network - just set the same ssid, plug in the wire into a LAN port and disable DHCP. Voila.

I got the TP Link, I set it up, I got it plugged into the LAN port.  I set the SSID to the same as my Nighthawk.

But I don't see a place to disable the DHCP??

Do I disable the DHCP in my Nighthawk or TP Link or Both??  Many thanks in advance for the help!
 
thatOSguy said:
ZeroLot said:
thatOSguy said:
It is very easy to set it up as an extension of your wireless network - just set the same ssid, plug in the wire into a LAN port and disable DHCP. Voila.

I got the TP Link, I set it up, I got it plugged into the LAN port.  I set the SSID to the same as my Nighthawk.

But I don't see a place to disable the DHCP??

Do I disable the DHCP in my Nighthawk or TP Link or Both??  Many thanks in advance for the help!

Disable in your TP Link. Connect to it via hardwire and go to the admin console. You should also assign a specific IP to it via DHCP reservation on your Nighthawk so you can manage it later.

Easy for you to say.  I tried to follow your instructions and I think I broke the TP Link.  haha  :P

Anyhow I just need to figure it out.  I tried to use the TP Link as both an additional LAN + wifi.  I think that's why I broke it.

So far I tested my Nighthawk Wifi and I ALMOST got it to Floral Park. 

Anyhow I've been reading online and what's the difference between a repeater vs extender???  I heard Nighthawk can do both. 
 
Nighthawk is a beast of a router.

Got mine in the master closet and the signal is great all around the house.  House is already Cat5 wired.. but they didn't label each port so i have to figure that out.
 
I found the answer to repeater vs extender:

"So if you have a home or office wireless network (lets call it "MyNetwork-1") and you need to wirelessly expand the range you need to be cautious about the equipment you purchase. An "extender" simply captures your WiFi router/switch signal, boost the signal and retransmits it. Unfortunately it transmits under a different network name (lets call it "MyNetwork-2"). So now you can take your laptop 100 feet futher BUT you must connect to "MyNetwork-2". Well if all of your wireless devices such as your printers are connected to "MyNetwork-1" you are just SOL. (Simply Out of Luck)

Repeaters as the name suggests are "suppose" to allow you keep your original network name by acting as an Access Point and boasting the signal. Sadly most of the non-commerical units available at the box stores like Fry's or Best Buy are nothing more than "extenders" with a misleading name. A true repeater they are not.... Let the buyer beware. Also know that most of the clerks at these box stores don't have a clue. You will get the deer in headlight stare or a misleading answer.

If you can live with 2 or more network names, then these units do work. A better option is to hard wire Access Points (WAPS) back to your router, buy a true repeater(expensive) or get a high performance router with maximum range and forget about trying to extend."
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/15836-43-difference-wifi-repeater-range-extender[/i]


So I guess I need to go get myself a repeater. 
 
the TP link is a repeater. the setup was really fast. they both use the same network name. isnt this the one you bought?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA850RE-Universal-One-button-Indicator/dp/B00E98O7GC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1400878536&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link

 
qwerty said:
the TP link is a repeater. the setup was really fast. they both use the same network name. isnt this the one you bought?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA850RE-Universal-One-button-Indicator/dp/B00E98O7GC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1400878536&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link

Darn it!  I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR841N-Wireless-Router-300Mpbs/dp/B001FWYGJS/ref=pd_sim_pc_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0ZS0W4WEF3GFZFF7PSB0

Anyhow before I buy the repeater, just want to make sure you were able to use the same SSID & password for both the Nighthawk and TP-Link repeater, correct?

Also does it boost the signal (like an extender) or repeats the signal? 
 
ZeroLot said:
qwerty said:
the TP link is a repeater. the setup was really fast. they both use the same network name. isnt this the one you bought?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA850RE-Universal-One-button-Indicator/dp/B00E98O7GC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1400878536&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link

Darn it!  I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR841N-Wireless-Router-300Mpbs/dp/B001FWYGJS/ref=pd_sim_pc_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0ZS0W4WEF3GFZFF7PSB0

Anyhow before I buy the repeater, just want to make sure you were able to use the same SSID & password for both the Nighthawk and TP-Link repeater, correct?

Also does it boost the signal (like an extender) or repeats the signal? 

correct, the SSID and password remain the same for the repeater and the wireless router, so its a seamless transition anywhere in your house. it doesnt make the signal stronger, though but if you start out with a strong signal you should be fine. for example, my iphone 5s on my regular wireless router gets about 30mbps on the speedtest, when i do the speedtest when im on the TPlink repeater the speed drops down to about 15 mbps. and the setup is really easy. you just push the WPS button on your router and then push the WPS button on the TPlink repeater and they connect automatically. you dont have to hook up a wire to the TPlink repeater to set it up. literally takes like 20 seconds.
 
thatOSguy said:
ZeroLot said:
qwerty said:
the TP link is a repeater. the setup was really fast. they both use the same network name. isnt this the one you bought?

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WA850RE-Universal-One-button-Indicator/dp/B00E98O7GC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1400878536&sr=8-3&keywords=tp+link

Darn it!  I bought this one:

http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-TL-WR841N-Wireless-Router-300Mpbs/dp/B001FWYGJS/ref=pd_sim_pc_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0ZS0W4WEF3GFZFF7PSB0

Anyhow before I buy the repeater, just want to make sure you were able to use the same SSID & password for both the Nighthawk and TP-Link repeater, correct?

Also does it boost the signal (like an extender) or repeats the signal?

Do you have a wired connection to your TPLink?

Yes I am using all 4 wired connections on my TP Link as well.  2 network printers, 1 google phone, and 1 laptop.
 
thatOSguy said:
If you have a hard wire where you are placing the extension wireless router, there's no need for a repeater -- those degrade overall wireless performance and are a fine bandaid if you don't have a wire:

One downside of wireless repeaters, though, is that they reduce throughput on the WLAN. A repeater must receive and retransmit each frame on the same RF channel, which effectively doubles the number of frames that are sent. This problem compounds when using multiple repeaters because each repeater will duplicate the number of frames sent. Thus, be sure to plan the use of repeaters sparingly.

I wired every damn room, some more than once. I took advantage of that to add a $20 TPLink to extend coverage to areas outside our home.

Here are the steps, starting with taking the TPLink out of the box:

- Plugged in the TPLink to the wall power (not the network yet)
- Connected a computer to it via wireless (but you can do it via wire too on a LAN port)
- Logged on to TPLink admin console (default -- 192.168.1.1; admin/admin); disabled DHCP (DHCP|DHCP SETTINGS), set LAN IP to 192.168.1.2 (NETWORK|LAN) and took note of the router MAC address, changed the SSID to match the main network (WIRELESS|WIRELESS SETTINGS).
- Rebooted it
- Plugged in the RJ45 wire into the LAN port
- Logged on to Netgear Nighthawk and assigned a static IP reservation to the TPLink (ADVANCED|SETUP|LAN SETUP) using the noted router MAC address

I then fiddled with various placements of the TPLink to maximize my coverage (using the Xirrus tool mentioned earlier). I found there was little difference between the upstairs window and downstairs window atop a bookshelf.

Done.

I'm guessing that you might have messed up the order above and gotten the TPLink into a state where you might not be able to access it successfully. Just reset it and start over again.
http://www.tp-link.com/en/article/?id=83

Good luck!

OS, what's the difference with this setup compared to just doing the quick setup ?  How mine is done right now is I have my main router where all the room's data ports are connected.  Then I put two separate wireless router LAN connected to the main router on two of the rooms with the same SSID as the main router.  So, my main router IP would be 192.168.0.xxx, while the other two wireless has IP of 192.168.1.xxx and 192.168.2.xxx.

With the above setup you outlined, I believe all the router will have the same IP ?  what is the disadvantage of the current setup I have with three different IP address ?  Looks like whenever I connect to that SSID, it will always connect to the strongest one (i check the IP address of the wireless), so it technically served my need but am not sure what am missing.

Thanks !
 
thanks OSguy for the explanation.  I'll change my setup to mimic the one you outlined .. maybe it will speed up our connection.  We usually just blame Cox when the connection is slow  >:D  Thanks again !
 
I'm going to be upgrading my router soon and have an all Apple ecosystem. I use a Time Capsule at home for routing and backup. I would like to improve coverage in my home and also continue using Time Machine to backup my Macs via Wifi.

Here are the routers I'm considering:

1)Netgear Nighthawk AC1900 (R700)http://www.cnet.com/products/netgear-nighthawk-ac1900-smart-wi-fi-router-r7000/

2) Asus RT-AC68Uhttp://www.cnet.com/products/asus-rt-ac68u-dual-band-wireless-ac1900-gigabit-router/

3) Linksys WRT1900AChttp://www.cnet.com/products/linksys-wrt1900ac-wireless-router/

I like the paper performance advantages of the Linksys and Asus but I'm leaning to the Nighthawk. Main reason is the native support for Apple iTunes/Air Play and Time Machine. Any thoughts?
 
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