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[quote author="no_vaseline" date=1216435913]<a href="http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/07/18/oc-jobless-rate-hits-five-year-high/">http://ocbiz.freedomblogging.com/2008/07/18/oc-jobless-rate-hits-five-year-high/</a>



The bottom is in. Look at all those new persepective buyers! Oh wait. What do you mean we can't do SISA loans anymore?



In that case, OC unemployment growth is simply one more seasoned log on a growing fire.</blockquote>


Eeek.... better hold onto my job for as long as I can.

-bix
 
[quote author="PadreBrian" date=1216444891]The jobless rate should peter off next year...all the damn mortgage brokers in their damn leased bmw's will move back where they came from.</blockquote>




Most of the brokers that I saw at lunchtime, who were always "doing deals" on their cells while I was trying to eat, seemed to be local OC boyz in their early 30s?.



where do you think that they came from
 
[quote author="PadreBrian" date=1216444891]The jobless rate should peter off next year...all the damn mortgage brokers in their damn leased bmw's will move back where they came from.</blockquote>
My husband entertained the heck out of me with stories of the mortgage guys in his office building over near the Spectrum. Literally, they would be in the men's room doing deals on their cell phones while tooting and crapping away. "yeah, we can get you *phttt* rate. trust me on *phttt* this." They all disappeared on the same day last year.



The dot com boom also produced a number of skanks in the sales end of things. We had a guy come work for us after the co-lo facility he was selling space in went belly up. One day he asked me to help him with his spell check. He wanted to know which choice for the correct spelling of colleague he should select. He had it spelled so poorly that the word itself didn't even come up as an option. Not only was he ignorant, but he was just a really vile human being. Needless to say he didn't succeed with us, so he left to go into the mortgage industry.
 
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/business/economy/19econ.html">Uncomfortable Answers to Questions on the Economy</a>



<em>"Something has clearly gone wrong with the economy. But how bad are things, really? And how bad might they get before better days return? Even to many economists who recently thought the gloom was overblown, the situation looks grim. The economy is in the midst of a very rough patch. The worst is probably still ahead.



Job losses will probably accelerate through this year and into 2009, and the job market will probably stay weak even longer. Home prices will probably keep falling, shrinking household wealth and eroding spending power.



?The open question is whether we?re in for a bad couple of years, or a bad decade,? said Kenneth S. Rogoff, a former chief economist at the International Monetary Fund, now a professor at Harvard."



"Back when home prices were multiplying, banks poured oceans of borrowed money into real estate loans. Unlike the dot-com companies at the heart of the last speculative investment bubble, the new gold rush was centered on something that seemed unimpeachably solid ? the American home.



But the whole thing worked only as long as housing prices rose. Falling prices landed like a bomb. Homeowners fell behind on their loans and could not qualify for new ones: There was no value left in their house to borrow against. As millions of people defaulted, the banks confronted enormous losses in a bloody period of reckoning."



"More than two years ago, Nouriel Roubini, an economist at the Stern School of Business at New York University, said that the housing bubble would give way to a financial crisis and a recession. He was widely dismissed as an attention-seeking Chicken Little. Now, Mr. Roubini says the worst is yet to come, because the account-squaring has so far been confined mostly to bad mortgages, leaving other areas remaining ? credit cards, auto loans, corporate and municipal debt.



Mr. Roubini says the cost of the financial system?s losses could reach $2 trillion. Even if it?s closer to $1 trillion, he adds, ?we?re not even a third of the way there.?"



"But Goldman Sachs assumes unemployment will reach 6.5 percent by the end of 2009, which translates into several hundred thousand more Americans out of work.



These losses are landing on top of what was, for most Americans, a remarkably weak period of expansion. <strong>From 1992 to 2000</strong> ? as the technology boom catalyzed spending and hiring ? the economy added more than <strong>22 million private sector jobs</strong>. Over the last <strong>eight years, only 5 million new jobs</strong> have been added."



"Average household debt has swelled to 120 percent of annual income, up from 60 percent in 1984, according to the Federal Reserve."



<strong>"Through it all, a lot of ordinary Americans borrowed a lot more money then they could afford to pay back, running up enormous credit card bills and borrowing against the value of their homes. Now comes the day of reckoning."</strong></em>



http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2008/07/19/business/aoneFUll.jpg



I have been saying that it is all about jobs since before IHB was ever created. No one listened to me then, and only a few do to this day, but at least the MSM is getting it. In comparing the national jobs picture cited by the NYT: Between 1992-2000 OC created nearly 263k new jobs, and in the last 8 years OC has only created almost 108k new jobs.
 
<strong>How Bad Could Things Get?</strong>



<em>Since World War II, there have been 18 banking crises in industrial countries. The worst five were caused by changing lending standards or real estate bubbles (often both) and cost at least 6 to 20 percent of G.D.P., the U.S. equivalent of $850 billion to $2.8 trillion. </em>



Don't forget this lovely picture, graph.



<img src="http://graphics8.nytimes.com/packages/html/business/20070718_ECON_GRAPHIC/images/jobs.gif" alt="" />
 
Wachovia just said it wasn't buying any more broker-originated

loans. There goes the only non-hard money closing I had scheduled.



Lots of (formerly good stocks reporting bad stuff.



I'm going out on a limb and saying tomorrow just might be

black Tuesday.



I'm going home, where I have no computer.
 
<a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_bi_ge/fannie_freddie_cost">Mortgage giant rescue could cost $25b</a>



WASHINGTON - A federal rescue of troubled mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac could cost taxpayers as much as $25 billion, Congress' top budget analyst said Tuesday.



But Peter R. Orszag, director of the Congressional Budget Office, predicted in a letter to lawmakers that there's a better than even chance the government will not have to step in to prop up the companies by lending them money or buying stock.



Congress is expected to vote this week on a housing measure that would give the Treasury Department authority to throw Fannie and Freddie a temporary lifeline.



<span style="color: purple;">Guess it's time for Congress to start looking under the couch cushions for spare change. I wonder where they'll get enough money for the bailout, if they can't scrounge up enough.</span>
 
<span style="font-size: 14px;"><strong>Roubini: More than 1 Trillion needed to solve housing crises.</strong></span>



LOL, he talks about a link to a www site that explains how homedebtors can walk away from their homes with limited legal ramifications.



<a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/41423/Roubini-More-Than-1-Trillion-Needed-to-Solve-Housing-Crisis?tickers=FNM,FRE,XLF,WM,WB,WFC,BAC">Roubini</a>
 
<strong><span style="font-size: 15px;">'They're All Toast': Roubini Says Brokers, Even <u>Goldman</u>, Can't Stay Independent</span></strong>



<a href="http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/41330/Theyre-All-Toast-Roubini-Says-Brokers-Even-Goldman-Cant-Stay-Independent?tickers=GS,LEH,MS,MER,JPM,BAC,C">Food for thought</a>
 
<a href="http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080723/congress_housing.html">Bush drops opposition to Housing Bill.</a>



Wonder what this will mean, or is it too little, too late?



Graph, now might be a good time to brush up on your government contracting skills.



And just because it seems a propos:



<img src="http://bigpicture.typepad.com/comments/images/2008/07/21/634081707pettslideshow_mainprod_aff.jpg" alt="" />
 
I love the sense of humor of this Realtor...

http://www.redfin.com/CA/Irvine/26-Dewey-92620/home/4779402?src=blg_irvine&utm_source=irvinehousingblog&utm_medium=blog&utm_nooverride=1



Home is in Northwood... On the market for 89 days so far... starting listing price was $848K. dropped twice; now at $788,950... last line in the listing is, "No need to preview this home, it will sell itself.".



Apparently, in the bubble, home owners wanted their home to earn a living and produce a third income. Now in a downturn market, Realturds want the home to keep working and sell itself. If it was actually true, how would the RE agent justify their 3%? $20,000 to take a few pictures, type up a listing and sit around during an occasional open house? It sounds like an eBay business plan (except for the open house part).
 
"The bill would let hundreds of thousands of homeowners <strong>trapped in mortgages</strong> they can't afford on homes that have plummeted in value escape foreclosure by refinancing into more affordable, fixed-rate loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration. Lenders would have to agree to take a substantial loss on the existing loans, and in return, they would walk away with <strong>at least some payoff </strong>and avoid the <strong>often-costly foreclosure process</strong>."



Please, cry me a river!
 
I posted this also in the economics section, but this thread seems more active and I'm wondering what people think - sorry for the double posting:



<a href="http://www.housingwire.com/2008/07/23/housing-bill-adds-second-lien-amendment-daps-to-be-eliminated/">Housing Bill Adds Second Lien Amendment</a>



"According to a published report, the nearly 700-page long Housing and Economic Recovery Act of 2008, HR 3221, saw a vital new amendment added in final negotiations that would ostensibly give second lien holders some incentive to agree to having their positions wiped out as part of a program that would look to refinance troubled mortgages into loans endorsed by the Federal Housing Administration.



The Act would authorize the FHA to endorse up to $300 billion in new 30-year fixed rate mortgages for troubled subprime borrowers; the lender must, however, first write-down principal loan balances to 90 percent of current appraisal value.



It?s a proposition that in many cases would mean wiping out second lien holders, leading more than a few market participants to suggest recently that lenders would be unlikely to participate voluntarily ? or, at the very least, that first lien holders would be held hostage by second lien holders.



An amendment added to the bill in compromise negotiations between House and Senate leaders would apparently look to solve this problem <strong>by allowing second lien holders to share in future price appreciation, even as their existing lien is extinguished via the refinancing transaction</strong>.



National Mortgage News first reported on the new amendment Wednesday afternoon in a blurb on the trade publication?s Web site; a copy of the amendment was not immediately available for media review at the time this story was published, leaving some question exactly as to how second lien holders would be impacted and what their position would be.



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I've been reading the Irvine Housing blog for quite a while, read all the blogs & analysis, and I was pretty convinced that, eventually, the housing markets would return to normal valuations where standard folk could buy homes without undue risk to their financial situation.



Today, I'm beginning to have my doubts.



There's an enormouse amount of government effort being put out to bail out banks and insolvent homeowners, which can only prop up house prices. Despite all the logical analysis, you can't fight billions of dollars being thrown at the problem, at the taxpayer's expense.



I'm beginning to wonder if this will not morph into a 10-year period of unnaffordable housing with prices essentially flat, instead of a protracted decline. Any thoughts?
 
<a href="http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f6405a62-58ca-11dd-a093-000077b07658,dwp_uuid=5db90a0e-4e6c-11dd-ba7c-000077b07658.html">US home owners cut back refinancing</a>



The rise in US mortgage rates has prompted a sharp decline in the number of refinancings according to data released yesterday by the Mortgage Bankers Association.



Last week. the MBA?s refinancing index fell 5.6 per cent, while the 30-year fixed mortgage rate jumped 37 basis points to 6.59 per cent.



High rates come at a time when homeowners are struggling to refinance mortgages because home values have fallen and banks have tightened their lending standards. According to RBS Greenwich Capital, <strong>just 3 per cent of the mortgage universe currently qualifies for refinancing. Two months ago that figure was 35 per cent.</strong>
 
<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/23/news/economy/housing_bill/index.htm?cnn=yes">House OKs mortgage rescue </a>



Details on the housing bills:



"The bill allows Treasury over the next 18 months to <strong>offer Fannie and Freddie an unlimited line of credit and the authority to buy stock in the companies </strong>if necessary.



<strong>Increase the Federal Housing Administration's role.</strong> The FHA could insure up to $300 billion in new 30-year fixed rate mortgages for at-risk borrowers in owner-occupied homes if lenders agree to write down loan balances to 90% of the homes' current appraised value.



Lenders would also agree to pay upfront fees to the FHA equal to 3% of a home's appraised value. Borrowers must agree to pay an annual premium to the FHA equal to 1.5% of their new loan balance. They must also agree to share with the government any profit they realize from selling or refinancing.



<strong>Establish a stronger regulator for the GSEs.</strong> The new regulator will have a greater say over how well funded the agencies are - a major concern in the markets that has sent stocks in both companies plunging.



<strong>Permanently increase "conforming loan" limits. </strong>The bill would <strong>permanently increase the cap on the size of mortgages guaranteed by Fannie and Freddie to a maximum of $625,000 from $417,000.</strong>



The FHA maximum loan limits for high-cost areas would also increase to $625,000. Higher loan limits will make it easier for borrowers to get mortgages, because they're more likely to be traded if they are considered conforming.



<strong>Create home-buyer credit. The bill includes a tax refund for first-time home buyers worth up to 10% of a home's purchase price but no more than $7,500. </strong>



The refund, however, serves more as an interest-free loan, since it would have to be paid back over 15 years in equal installments. It would be reduced gradually for single filers with adjusted gross incomes above $75,000 and for joint filers with AGIs over $150,000.



<strong>Bar down-payment assistance for FHA loans.</strong> The bill eliminates a program that has allowed sellers to provide down payment assistance.



<strong>Create an affordable housing trust fund. </strong>In the first three years of the FHA refinancing program, fees paid by Fannie and Freddie - based on a percentage of their new mortgage activity - would help defray potential government losses from loans that end in default. The fees would later pay for a permanent fund to promote affordable housing.



<strong>Give grants to states to buy foreclosed properties. The bill would grant $4 billion to states to buy up and rehabilitate foreclosed properties.</strong>"
 
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