Harvard records show discrimination against Asian-Americans
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The social engineering is happening every day, and you, I, other Irvine residents, and other affluent households are a big part of it. We should be highly skeptical and hesitant when government attempts to engineer opportunity and/or outcomes, but we can't simply ignore what's occurring.
I spend time talking about school every day and helping with homework. Nearly every day, an hour or two is spent on an extracurricular/enrichment activity. I spend hours, outside of normal practice, every week working on agility drills, basketball drills, baseball drills, etc.
I am engineering a short term and long term advantage every single day for my kids. This has a massive cumulative effect.
As you can probably tell, I think about this quite a bit. My kids have extreme advantages over other kids, including my childhood. So, I am social engineering inequalities.
What I?m describing are accumulative merit-based advantages, knowledge and skills, higher income/wealth households contribute to their kids on a daily basis, over two decades.
We shouldn?t disregard non-merit-based advantages kids are born with, that affect opportunities, in youth and beyond. Imagine if college admission standards not only considered race, but also height, weight, attractiveness, baldness propensity, etc. High school seniors below average height, above average weight, and below average attractiveness are at a serious statistical disadvantage in the workplace.
Height: Various treatments, including hormone injections are avail during growth phase. After growth phase there are limb lengthening surgery and elevator shoes avail. See: Samsung Medical Center in Seoul.
Weight: Diet, exercise, and lipo.
Attractiveness: Cosmetic products, procedures, and surgeries avail. See: Oracle Clinic in Seoul.
Baldness: Hair transplant avail at Newport Beach.
Not qualifying to be a male porn star: male XL sized implant + viagra avail at Newport Beach.
Race: You could cosmetically change your appearance with some attributes of another ethnicity (see Lisa of Blackpink), but you cannot change your race.
Some East Indians (ie. not native) can pass as African American.
https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/
The Market solution is what they currently are doing.
You all missed the really important one, the Dean's special interest list.
And let's be honest, the reason you want your non-1% kid going to Harvard is to get access to that group of people on the special interest list.
Access to the people through commonality that were previously on the interest list.
Take away the special interest list and the dogged limitations for only taking Harvard, Yale or other Ivy graduates into certain roles will follow.
Once that goes, so goes your desire to get into them.
And if you're not getting that Ivy education to get access to a specific connection, what are you doing?
College athletic scholarships are another can of worms, a topic of many very good books.
If you've ever seen Elie Mystal on MSNBC, he is the "angry black man" right out of central casting: white people are responsible for all of society's ills.
However, I do agree with Elie in this piece that even if the SCOTUS overturns Bakke, the clever folks at Harvard and like minded schools will find other more ingenous ways of keeping Asians out. A selective school with a race blind admissions policy like Cal Tech is over 40% Asian. Harvard and its compatriots will go nuclear before they allow that to happen to them.
Yea, he's changed over the years. His rage 10+ years ago was primarily directed at law schools over-charging students and burdening them with hundreds of thousands of dollars with meager prospects to earn good incomes. Above the Law's comments sections were filled with hate and vitriol, and he'd respond in the comments. Eventually ATL removed comments altogether because the comments just became a cesspool.
His columns have increasingly addressed political issues, with a very angry edge. "News" has evolved/devolved into entertainment and shock jock takes. I think that's part of his game. The Left needs a few guys/gals like this though. The Right is FULL of these folks.
Perspective
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Irvine Dream said:
The social engineering is happening every day, and you, I, other Irvine residents, and other affluent households are a big part of it. We should be highly skeptical and hesitant when government attempts to engineer opportunity and/or outcomes, but we can't simply ignore what's occurring.
I spend time talking about school every day and helping with homework. Nearly every day, an hour or two is spent on an extracurricular/enrichment activity. I spend hours, outside of normal practice, every week working on agility drills, basketball drills, baseball drills, etc.
I am engineering a short term and long term advantage every single day for my kids. This has a massive cumulative effect.
As you can probably tell, I think about this quite a bit. My kids have extreme advantages over other kids, including my childhood. So, I am social engineering inequalities.
Perspective
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Perspective said:
What I?m describing are accumulative merit-based advantages, knowledge and skills, higher income/wealth households contribute to their kids on a daily basis, over two decades.
We shouldn?t disregard non-merit-based advantages kids are born with, that affect opportunities, in youth and beyond. Imagine if college admission standards not only considered race, but also height, weight, attractiveness, baldness propensity, etc. High school seniors below average height, above average weight, and below average attractiveness are at a serious statistical disadvantage in the workplace.
momopi
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Perspective said:
Height: Various treatments, including hormone injections are avail during growth phase. After growth phase there are limb lengthening surgery and elevator shoes avail. See: Samsung Medical Center in Seoul.
Weight: Diet, exercise, and lipo.
Attractiveness: Cosmetic products, procedures, and surgeries avail. See: Oracle Clinic in Seoul.
Baldness: Hair transplant avail at Newport Beach.
Not qualifying to be a male porn star: male XL sized implant + viagra avail at Newport Beach.
Race: You could cosmetically change your appearance with some attributes of another ethnicity (see Lisa of Blackpink), but you cannot change your race.
woodburyowner
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momopi said:
Some East Indians (ie. not native) can pass as African American.
https://nypost.com/2015/04/12/mindy-kalings-brother-explains-why-he-pretended-to-be-black/
nosuchreality
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fortune11 said:
The Market solution is what they currently are doing.
You all missed the really important one, the Dean's special interest list.
And let's be honest, the reason you want your non-1% kid going to Harvard is to get access to that group of people on the special interest list.
Access to the people through commonality that were previously on the interest list.
Take away the special interest list and the dogged limitations for only taking Harvard, Yale or other Ivy graduates into certain roles will follow.
Once that goes, so goes your desire to get into them.
And if you're not getting that Ivy education to get access to a specific connection, what are you doing?
Perspective
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bones said:
College athletic scholarships are another can of worms, a topic of many very good books.
Perspective
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Asian-American Affirmative-Action Lawsuit Against Harvard Has Always Been On Behalf Of Mediocre White People
If white supremacists cared about Asian-American students, they'd be fighting to hold Harvard accountable to Bakke, not destroy it.
https://abovethelaw.com/2018/10/asi...ways-been-on-behalf-of-mediocre-white-people/
If white supremacists cared about Asian-American students, they'd be fighting to hold Harvard accountable to Bakke, not destroy it.
https://abovethelaw.com/2018/10/asi...ways-been-on-behalf-of-mediocre-white-people/
Perspective said:
If you've ever seen Elie Mystal on MSNBC, he is the "angry black man" right out of central casting: white people are responsible for all of society's ills.
However, I do agree with Elie in this piece that even if the SCOTUS overturns Bakke, the clever folks at Harvard and like minded schools will find other more ingenous ways of keeping Asians out. A selective school with a race blind admissions policy like Cal Tech is over 40% Asian. Harvard and its compatriots will go nuclear before they allow that to happen to them.
Perspective
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Happiness said:
Yea, he's changed over the years. His rage 10+ years ago was primarily directed at law schools over-charging students and burdening them with hundreds of thousands of dollars with meager prospects to earn good incomes. Above the Law's comments sections were filled with hate and vitriol, and he'd respond in the comments. Eventually ATL removed comments altogether because the comments just became a cesspool.
His columns have increasingly addressed political issues, with a very angry edge. "News" has evolved/devolved into entertainment and shock jock takes. I think that's part of his game. The Left needs a few guys/gals like this though. The Right is FULL of these folks.
Harvard has so many rich kids
https://nypost.com/2018/10/22/harva...d-financial-pressure-on-the-school-testimony/
https://nypost.com/2018/10/22/harva...d-financial-pressure-on-the-school-testimony/
Fifteen percent of Harvard students come from families that made about $630,000 or more a year. Only two Ivy institutions ? Columbia and Cornell Universities ? have a smaller share of students from such families, at 13 percent and 10 percent, respectively. At the top of the list is Dartmouth College, with 21 percent. The chart below shows the proportion of students enrolled at each Ivy League institution who are from the top 1 percent.
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Harvard-s-Racial-Diversity/244896?cid=wcontentlist_hp_latest
https://www.chronicle.com/article/Harvard-s-Racial-Diversity/244896?cid=wcontentlist_hp_latest
Is an Extroverted Applicant Better Suited for Harvard Than an Introvert?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/us/harvard-admissions-trial-asian-americans.html
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/25/us/harvard-admissions-trial-asian-americans.html
Harvard's Not-So-Secret Admissions Factor: Donors Get a Boost
?Emails raised at bias trial show donor dollars got action
Fitzsimmons says personal rating includes multiple factors
Under questioning, Fitzsimmons explained that Harvard assigns each applicant a numerical rating from 1 to 6 in 14 separate categories.?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bl...o-secret-admissions-factor-donors-get-a-boost
?Emails raised at bias trial show donor dollars got action
Fitzsimmons says personal rating includes multiple factors
Under questioning, Fitzsimmons explained that Harvard assigns each applicant a numerical rating from 1 to 6 in 14 separate categories.?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bl...o-secret-admissions-factor-donors-get-a-boost