Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice

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Hey look IHS, another one to Cal State Fullerton!

In all honesty, however, this girl is way smarter than the ones who piss away $300k to go to Harvard.  She will graduate debt-free and will have a job waiting for her immediately upon graduation.  She will be making money from day 1 while her classmates piss away more money for graduate school and pay the opportunity cost of more lost income throughout their twenties.  By the time her friends finish law school, she will be ready to flip her Capella home while her friends struggle to cobble enough money together to make the down payment at Strada.


Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/csuf-724309-program-year.html
 
Irvine Dream said:
WTTCHMN said:
she will be ready to flip her Capella home while her friends struggle to cobble enough money together to make the down payment at Strada.


Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/csuf-724309-program-year.html
Common, Paris is a Doctor >:D

Nurses make more than doctors if you account for school debt, opportunity cost of lost income while going to school, and the fact that nurses only work 3 days/week + overtime.
 
I graduated from CSUF.  They have pre-med programs now and my doctor's office just took in 5 interns for the Summer from them.

CSUF was not a "fun" school.  We actually drove to CSULB to party with the girls there.
 
No one looks at what school you graduated from or your GPA when you get a job as an RN.

All that matters is did you pass the board, hours you can work, any clinical experience you have outside of school like as a nurse's aid, references especially from others who work at the hospital and your personality if it's a competitive market (yes there are times when RNs have to fight for jobs.... when the economy goes down the drain you'll have more experienced nurses who take on more hours eliminating entry jobs and there are areas that usually only hire from within when they need new blood).
 
I agree. It don't matter. Get your degree and climb the ladder.  ;)
Just don't complain the system is rigged. Lol
 
WTTCHMN said:
Irvine Dream said:
WTTCHMN said:
she will be ready to flip her Capella home while her friends struggle to cobble enough money together to make the down payment at Strada.


Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/csuf-724309-program-year.html
Common, Paris is a Doctor >:D

Nurses make more than doctors if you account for school debt, opportunity cost of lost income while going to school, and the fact that nurses only work 3 days/week + overtime.

Um maybe if it's a primary care doctor. Specialists catch up real quick and surpass a RN salary by a long shot. And I work 3 times a week. But I get to rest in my call room during my shifts while those nurses have to be on their feet 12 hours of their shift, doing all that dirty work cleaning up shit and having to deal with irritating patients and their family members. No thanks. Physician > nurse Any day which is why it's so difficult to get into medical school. These days you could buy a nursing degree for a $130k at west coast university - they let anyone in if you pay.
 
WTTCHMN said:
Hey look IHS, another one to Cal State Fullerton!

In all honesty, however, this girl is way smarter than the ones who piss away $300k to go to Harvard.  She will graduate debt-free and will have a job waiting for her immediately upon graduation.  She will be making money from day 1 while her classmates piss away more money for graduate school and pay the opportunity cost of more lost income throughout their twenties.  By the time her friends finish law school, she will be ready to flip her Capella home while her friends struggle to cobble enough money together to make the down payment at Strada.


Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/csuf-724309-program-year.html
Good choice.  She'll appreciate the lack of debt and a quality paying job right out of college.  As long as she wanted to be a nurse, then her choice makes total sense. I'm biased though as I'm a proud Titan (my education there was the best deal money could buy and landed me big internships plus big 4 gig a year before graduating). 
 
Paris said:
Um maybe if it's a primary care doctor. Specialists catch up real quick and surpass a RN salary by a long shot. And I work 3 times a week. But I get to rest in my call room during my shifts while those nurses have to be on their feet 12 hours of their shift, doing all that dirty work cleaning up shit and having to deal with irritating patients and their family members. No thanks. Physician > nurse Any day which is why it's so difficult to get into medical school. These days you could buy a nursing degree for a $130k at west coast university - they let anyone in if you pay.

Oh, Paris, if that's how you feel about your patients and the nurses you work with, well it's no wonder they probably don't like you either.

And in case you didn't get the memo, a hospitalist is not a specialist.
 
WTTCHMN said:
Paris said:
Um maybe if it's a primary care doctor. Specialists catch up real quick and surpass a RN salary by a long shot. And I work 3 times a week. But I get to rest in my call room during my shifts while those nurses have to be on their feet 12 hours of their shift, doing all that dirty work cleaning up shit and having to deal with irritating patients and their family members. No thanks. Physician > nurse Any day which is why it's so difficult to get into medical school. These days you could buy a nursing degree for a $130k at west coast university - they let anyone in if you pay.

Oh, Paris, if that's how you feel about your patients and the nurses you work with, well it's no wonder they probably don't like you either.

And in case you didn't get the memo, a hospitalist is not a specialist.

You make a good point. I just noticed the greater than symbol.
 
Paris said:
WTTCHMN said:
Irvine Dream said:
WTTCHMN said:
she will be ready to flip her Capella home while her friends struggle to cobble enough money together to make the down payment at Strada.


Future nurse makes CSUF her No. 1 choice
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/csuf-724309-program-year.html
Common, Paris is a Doctor >:D

Nurses make more than doctors if you account for school debt, opportunity cost of lost income while going to school, and the fact that nurses only work 3 days/week + overtime.

Um maybe if it's a primary care doctor. Specialists catch up real quick and surpass a RN salary by a long shot. And I work 3 times a week. But I get to rest in my call room during my shifts while those nurses have to be on their feet 12 hours of their shift, doing all that dirty work cleaning up shit and having to deal with irritating patients and their family members. No thanks. Physician > nurse Any day which is why it's so difficult to get into medical school. These days you could buy a nursing degree for a $130k at west coast university - they let anyone in if you pay.

Depends on what area the RN works in. I worked in Labor and Delivery which is feast or famine. Except on the absolute most craziest days when there are patients on beds in the halls because there is no room at the inn, L/D RNs are definitely not on their feet all day and the RN isn't the one cleaning up in most cases. LVN's, scrub techs, housekeeping is the one to clean up stuff.

Circulating RNs, ICU/CCU, NICU, PICU are not on their feet all day either.

Double time after their initial shift adds up to quite a tidy sum.

One of the nice perks is working thru a registry if you're comfy with going to several hospitals. We had nurses we had thru the registry we considered staff they were there so much. You work WHEN you want and WHERE you want.

AND RNs aren't limited to working in hospitals. They can work in surgical out patient centers or offices. They can get their Nurse Practitioner license for way cheaper than an MD and do much of what a doctor does.

I had a friend who went from CNA to LVN to RN to Nurse Practitioner who got herself a share of a well known well regarded perinatologist out of St. Joes and remained with him for well over 20 years until she retired and then he bought her share back. She worked her days in the office and never had to take call and was quite well paid.

I've known two nurses who went on to get an MBA (paid for with tuition reimbursement and it only took an additional two years of part time classes) and went high up in hospital administration. One has been a hospital CEO for many years.

My oncologist employs RNs and pays better than a hospital with vacation, sick leave etc all better than the hospital. They do all the chemo, blood draws, review labs etc just as an RN would do in the hospital so it's important to have nurses that are competent and have a reason to stay, pay being only one.

I've known many docs and in Labor and Delivery you have a LOT of time where RNs and docs talk for hours. We knew about their kids and they knew about ours. You know what a common theme was? They didn't want their kids to be a doctor. Maybe that was just OB, but somehow I think not. They could have said not an OB doc, but they said not a doctor, period....... due to the time they are on call and the cost of keeping an office and their education. We had several that actually left their practices who went on to hospital administration and one became a malpractice lawyer. One sold his practice and worked in a clinic but he said in the end, he would have not bothered with medicine as he didn't like working in the clinic and saving money over his own office wasn't fulfilling.

I retired because I wanted to spend more time with my kids and had enough money to never work again but if I had to pick med school or nurse......... nurse hands down, but NOT on a general med/surg floor. I would pick L/D again and if that weren't available circulating RN.
 
WTTCHMN said:
Oh, Paris, if that's how you feel about your patients and the nurses you work with, well it's no wonder they probably don't like you either.

Careful... an armed Marine might show up at your door.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
WTTCHMN said:
Oh, Paris, if that's how you feel about your patients and the nurses you work with, well it's no wonder they probably don't like you either.

Careful... an armed Marine might show up at your door.

I'd be more afraid of Uncle Jo.
 
I discourage kids staying so close to home. A big part of going away to college is to experience life and independence.Many parents insist their kids attending college close to home. Many colleges shape good workers and to lead productive life with a primary passion for financial rewards in society. Some shapes future influential leaders with a primary passion to better society with less emphasis on financial success but lives rewarding life.

 
It's interesting how two people can look at a post so and read it so differently. I read it entirely differently. The reaction towards Paris is a bit over the top. Paris is not disrespecting nurses. If anything, she's giving them credit for the tough job that they do. With the greater than / less than symbol, she's saying being a doctor is a cushier job than a nurse's job. In many ways, doctors have it easier. Also, the part about the irritating families -- Come on, guys. Anybody who has ever worked with the public knows that's just a fact of life. Some are more irritating than others. Some just don't like hearing the word, "No" and can be rude. Some are downright abusive. I've worked with patients, customers, and clients of all kinds. It takes a special kind of person to want to show up and help them day in & day out, let alone go the extra mile for them with the way that some of them treat you. It can make a job become soul-crushing. I'm sure being a nurse can truly be a thankless job. That's why they deserve our respect. I think that's what Paris is trying to say.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
I discourage kids staying so close to home. A big part of going away to college is to experience life and independence.Many parents insist their kids attending college close to home. Many colleges shape good workers and to lead productive life with a primary passion for financial rewards in society. Some shapes future influential leaders with a primary passion to better society with less emphasis on financial success but lives rewarding life.

I'm sure their are plenty of college kids that stayed at home, are on par with the kids that didn't stay home.
 
SoCal said:
It's interesting how two people can look at a post so and read it so differently. I read it entirely differently. The reaction towards Paris is a bit over the top. Paris is not disrespecting nurses. If anything, she's giving them credit for the tough job that they do. With the greater than / less than symbol, she's saying being a doctor is a cushier job than a nurse's job. In many ways, doctors have it easier. Also, the part about the irritating families -- Come on, guys. Anybody who has ever worked with the public knows that's just a fact of life. Some are more irritating than others. Some just don't like hearing the word, "No" and can be rude. Some are downright abusive. I've worked with patients, customers, and clients of all kinds. It takes a special kind of person to want to show up and help them day in & day out, let alone go the extra mile for them with the way that some of them treat you. It can make a job become soul-crushing. I'm sure being a nurse can truly be a thankless job. That's why they deserve our respect. I think that's what Paris is trying to say.

Nah, if you re-read her original post, Paris pats herself on the back for getting into medical school while claiming that anyone off the street can buy their way into nursing school:

Paris said:
Physician > nurse Any day which is why it's so difficult to get into medical school. These days you could buy a nursing degree for a $130k at west coast university - they let anyone in if you pay.

Paris is also proud she can rest in her call room while her nurses do the dirty work, "cleaning up shit" and "having to deal with irritating patients...No thanks."  I don't see one ounce of respect.

Paris said:
But I get to rest in my call room during my shifts while those nurses have to be on their feet 12 hours of their shift, doing all that dirty work cleaning up shit and having to deal with irritating patients and their family members. No thanks.
 
Graduates from nursing program offered through college for profit are her co workers. Some will eventually acquire additional education from no brand colleges and could be in surgery along with surgeons. Those who went to Columbia, Upenn, UNC, UVA, Duke and Washington U will likely be making similar salaries. The same could be said about OD and MD. OD doctors are those who can't get into the top medical schools but eventually they make the same as MDs.
 
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