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[quote author="biscuitninja" date=1236386414][quote author="PeterUK" date=1236356217]
USC, good find but I question the part of the Article that says "Gone for good" I think they will come back when the economy finally hits the bottom and we have to re-build it to create real wealth and the only way to do that is via Manufacturing, Mining and Agriculture so we will need more skilled People or better still, train them here!!
The same thing is happening in the UK where the economy is even worse, a lot of skilled workers are returning to their native Poland and similar Countries, after all, immigrants tend to be very mobile, once you've left your Home you can never go back.</blockquote>
Yep we see that in the engineering field. So far we are are declining at pretty good rate, we make about 35,000 engineers a year and retire close 60,000 per year. We've been replacing these guys with Indian and Chinese immigrants. BUT there are lots of issues in using them and invariably we see our products being made across the seas....
I blame it on the MTV/Reality TV kids. They all think they can become a star just by being themselves.... None of them really want to work hard and succeed. Engineering is FAR down the list. Oh well.
-bix</blockquote>
Saw an interview with Paul Volkner where he said a few years back he was dismayed to find out a relative (nephew?) who was talented at math had decided to become a financial engineer.
Similar comments from a Chinese official who said the same thing, the best and brightest were trying to get into finance, because of how much money the finance guys were making.
Maybe now that the finance gig has imploded, those students will go into real (ie. civil, electrical, etc) engineering instead ...
USC, good find but I question the part of the Article that says "Gone for good" I think they will come back when the economy finally hits the bottom and we have to re-build it to create real wealth and the only way to do that is via Manufacturing, Mining and Agriculture so we will need more skilled People or better still, train them here!!
The same thing is happening in the UK where the economy is even worse, a lot of skilled workers are returning to their native Poland and similar Countries, after all, immigrants tend to be very mobile, once you've left your Home you can never go back.</blockquote>
Yep we see that in the engineering field. So far we are are declining at pretty good rate, we make about 35,000 engineers a year and retire close 60,000 per year. We've been replacing these guys with Indian and Chinese immigrants. BUT there are lots of issues in using them and invariably we see our products being made across the seas....
I blame it on the MTV/Reality TV kids. They all think they can become a star just by being themselves.... None of them really want to work hard and succeed. Engineering is FAR down the list. Oh well.
-bix</blockquote>
Saw an interview with Paul Volkner where he said a few years back he was dismayed to find out a relative (nephew?) who was talented at math had decided to become a financial engineer.
Similar comments from a Chinese official who said the same thing, the best and brightest were trying to get into finance, because of how much money the finance guys were making.
Maybe now that the finance gig has imploded, those students will go into real (ie. civil, electrical, etc) engineering instead ...
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