Experts admit global warming predictions wrong
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I'm not getting in the middle of this. I have no idea if he was saying two hot days meant something or if he was including much more data and I'm not even taking a side on global warming at all.
I'm just saying a windy day is not wintry weather in central OC.
The authors attribute 19 percent of the severe 2021 drought, and 42 percent of the extended drought since the 21st century began, to human-caused climate change.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...-extreme-in-1200-years-study-finds/ar-AATR830
And to what do we attribute the remaining 81% and 58% of the droughts, respectively? And why is climate change getting top billing, when it is not the major cause?
Sure... I'm just counter posting to morekaos' absolutist posts.
He says there is zero climate change... I say there is some.
Just like he says masks are zero percent effective, Tesla is zero percent successful, everyone is moving out of California and Sweden had zero lockdowns.
Ready2Downsize
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Liar Loan said:
I'm not getting in the middle of this. I have no idea if he was saying two hot days meant something or if he was including much more data and I'm not even taking a side on global warming at all.
I'm just saying a windy day is not wintry weather in central OC.
irvinehomeowner
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Hah. I like R2D's style.
Just the facts.
Just the facts.
morekaos
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Happy Earth Day!! ;D ;D >
Fewer Americans see climate change as a priority than they did a year ago - CBS News poll
With issues like the economy and inflation, crime, and the war in Ukraine weighing most on Americans' minds, the percentage who think climate change needs to be addressed right now has dipped
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fewer-...ange-as-priority-opinion-poll-2022-04-22/#app
Fewer Americans see climate change as a priority than they did a year ago - CBS News poll
With issues like the economy and inflation, crime, and the war in Ukraine weighing most on Americans' minds, the percentage who think climate change needs to be addressed right now has dipped
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fewer-...ange-as-priority-opinion-poll-2022-04-22/#app
morekaos
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Comedy gold!!!!
Every day you read how the ?climate crisis? is real, and rapidly getting worse. Humans burning fossil fuels to support out-of-control consumerism have brought the earth to the brink of disaster. Droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, and plagues of every sort are proliferating. Of course, you are feeling all the natural human reactions: fear, dread, not to mention overwhelming guilt at your own role in causing the crisis through the grave sin of enjoying your life. In short, you have entered the state known to the experts as ?climate anxiety.?
The New York Times, as usual, was way out front on this issue. Back in July 2021 they published a long piece by Molly Peterson with the headline ?How to Calm Your Climate Anxiety.? Subheadline: ?Between wildfires, heat waves and hurricanes, we?re all feeling nervous about the future. But stewing or ignoring the problem won?t ease your burden.? Yes, if you are a writer for the New York Times you fully expect that among the readership it is accurate to say that ?we?re all? feeling the climate anxiety. How could we not? Kindly, Molly, tell us how bad it is.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/well/mind/mental-health-climate-anxiety.html
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-4-25-comedy-gold-how-to-relieve-your-climate-anxiety
https://youtu.be/B359hCC3HQU
Every day you read how the ?climate crisis? is real, and rapidly getting worse. Humans burning fossil fuels to support out-of-control consumerism have brought the earth to the brink of disaster. Droughts, floods, hurricanes, tornados, earthquakes, and plagues of every sort are proliferating. Of course, you are feeling all the natural human reactions: fear, dread, not to mention overwhelming guilt at your own role in causing the crisis through the grave sin of enjoying your life. In short, you have entered the state known to the experts as ?climate anxiety.?
The New York Times, as usual, was way out front on this issue. Back in July 2021 they published a long piece by Molly Peterson with the headline ?How to Calm Your Climate Anxiety.? Subheadline: ?Between wildfires, heat waves and hurricanes, we?re all feeling nervous about the future. But stewing or ignoring the problem won?t ease your burden.? Yes, if you are a writer for the New York Times you fully expect that among the readership it is accurate to say that ?we?re all? feeling the climate anxiety. How could we not? Kindly, Molly, tell us how bad it is.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/23/well/mind/mental-health-climate-anxiety.html
https://www.manhattancontrarian.com/blog/2022-4-25-comedy-gold-how-to-relieve-your-climate-anxiety
https://youtu.be/B359hCC3HQU
irvinehomeowner
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California declares historic water emergency measures amid drought
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/27/california-drought-water-restriction/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2022/04/27/california-drought-water-restriction/
Liar Loan
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irvinehomeowner said:
The authors attribute 19 percent of the severe 2021 drought, and 42 percent of the extended drought since the 21st century began, to human-caused climate change.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/t...-extreme-in-1200-years-study-finds/ar-AATR830
And to what do we attribute the remaining 81% and 58% of the droughts, respectively? And why is climate change getting top billing, when it is not the major cause?
irvinehomeowner
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Every little bit helps.
So if something will help you by either 19% or 42%, wouldn't you still do it?
Or are you saying that if human caused climate change is only 19% or 42% responsible for our current drought, then it's not a big deal?
I know where morekaos stands but he doesn't do well with science... does LL think that we are not having any affect on climate and so we don't need to worry about conservation or environmental issues?
So if something will help you by either 19% or 42%, wouldn't you still do it?
Or are you saying that if human caused climate change is only 19% or 42% responsible for our current drought, then it's not a big deal?
I know where morekaos stands but he doesn't do well with science... does LL think that we are not having any affect on climate and so we don't need to worry about conservation or environmental issues?
irvinehomeowner
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How ironic... so why post your complaints about California business climate?
Seems like everything to you is "Nothing can be done"... so just be quiet and adapt.
Seems like everything to you is "Nothing can be done"... so just be quiet and adapt.
irvinehomeowner
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Liar Loan said:
Sure... I'm just counter posting to morekaos' absolutist posts.
He says there is zero climate change... I say there is some.
Just like he says masks are zero percent effective, Tesla is zero percent successful, everyone is moving out of California and Sweden had zero lockdowns.
morekaos
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This is what I mean by all this is talk anyway and nothing really gets done...All talk to placate the movement but in reality we need to just adapt to what comes...doesn't require belief...just the reality of humans....entropy...
Broken climate promises
The world observed Earth Day for the 52nd time last week, but there was a shadow on the celebration. Earlier in the month, the UN?s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued its latest report on efforts to stop global warming. It showed a ?litany of broken climate promises? was ?putting us on track towards an unlivable world,? in the words of UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.
The report is an indictment of governments, corporations and investors who have signed on to the ?net-zero carbon? goal but have put little or no concrete effort behind their pledges. ?Government and business are saying one thing and doing another,? Guterres said. ?Simply put, they are lying.?
The report is the latest in a series from scientists taking part in the IPCC research and findings. They concluded it will be impossible to keep the Earth?s temperature from rising more than 1.5 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels ? unless we cut global greenhouse gas emissions 43 percent over the next eight years. That?s a formidable goal.
So, what are the empty promises the UN secretary-general has criticized? Researchers at Japan?s Kyoto University analyzed the corporate reports and spending of BP, Shell, Chevron and ExxonMobil. They concluded that ?no major (oil company) is currently on the way to a clean energy transition.?
Big investors are part of the problem. Tim Quinson, a senior executive editor at Bloomberg, reports ?None of the world?s largest asset managers has definitively called on fossil-fuel companies to stop the development of new oil and gas projects.?
Notably, 30 of the largest asset managers have invested at least $550 billion in oil, gas and coal company expansion, Quinson says. ?This is happening against a backdrop where the world?s leading climate finance experts and economists warn too much money is pouring into fossil fuels.? The International Energy Agency says if our goal is net-zero carbon, there is no reason to put any additional funds into fossil energy.
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/3466824-broken-climate-promises/
Broken climate promises
The world observed Earth Day for the 52nd time last week, but there was a shadow on the celebration. Earlier in the month, the UN?s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued its latest report on efforts to stop global warming. It showed a ?litany of broken climate promises? was ?putting us on track towards an unlivable world,? in the words of UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres.
The report is an indictment of governments, corporations and investors who have signed on to the ?net-zero carbon? goal but have put little or no concrete effort behind their pledges. ?Government and business are saying one thing and doing another,? Guterres said. ?Simply put, they are lying.?
The report is the latest in a series from scientists taking part in the IPCC research and findings. They concluded it will be impossible to keep the Earth?s temperature from rising more than 1.5 degrees Celsius above preindustrial levels ? unless we cut global greenhouse gas emissions 43 percent over the next eight years. That?s a formidable goal.
So, what are the empty promises the UN secretary-general has criticized? Researchers at Japan?s Kyoto University analyzed the corporate reports and spending of BP, Shell, Chevron and ExxonMobil. They concluded that ?no major (oil company) is currently on the way to a clean energy transition.?
Big investors are part of the problem. Tim Quinson, a senior executive editor at Bloomberg, reports ?None of the world?s largest asset managers has definitively called on fossil-fuel companies to stop the development of new oil and gas projects.?
Notably, 30 of the largest asset managers have invested at least $550 billion in oil, gas and coal company expansion, Quinson says. ?This is happening against a backdrop where the world?s leading climate finance experts and economists warn too much money is pouring into fossil fuels.? The International Energy Agency says if our goal is net-zero carbon, there is no reason to put any additional funds into fossil energy.
https://thehill.com/opinion/energy-environment/3466824-broken-climate-promises/
StarmanMBA
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The Dimocrat (correctly spelled) Mantra:
Fear through ignorance!
FEAR global warming
FEAR police
FEAR white straight men
FEAR Elon Musk
FEAR freedom and liberty
They hate everyone, including themselves. That's why so many try to turn homosexual, turn atheist, turn socialist, turn into the opposite sex. They call this intellectualism and inclusive.
Fear through ignorance!
FEAR global warming
FEAR police
FEAR white straight men
FEAR Elon Musk
FEAR freedom and liberty
They hate everyone, including themselves. That's why so many try to turn homosexual, turn atheist, turn socialist, turn into the opposite sex. They call this intellectualism and inclusive.
morekaos
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Sure its temporary...and their diesel engines are clean diesel too...Unicorns and Rainbows... ;D ;D >
Volkswagen is prolonging its use of coal due to Russian energy ?threat?
?We can [adapt] ... to the situation,? Herbert Diess tells CNBC. ?We can, [for] a little bit, prolong our coal fired plants ? hopefully it?s not for too long.
Company had been planning to replace coal-fired boilers with gas and steam turbine units, but global events appear to have prompted a rethink for the time being.
VW reported results for the first quarter of 2022 on Wednesday, with operating profit before special items hitting 513 million euros.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/04/vol...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail
Volkswagen is prolonging its use of coal due to Russian energy ?threat?
?We can [adapt] ... to the situation,? Herbert Diess tells CNBC. ?We can, [for] a little bit, prolong our coal fired plants ? hopefully it?s not for too long.
Company had been planning to replace coal-fired boilers with gas and steam turbine units, but global events appear to have prompted a rethink for the time being.
VW reported results for the first quarter of 2022 on Wednesday, with operating profit before special items hitting 513 million euros.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/04/vol...rce=iosappshare|com.apple.UIKit.activity.Mail
morekaos
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Unicorns and rainbows....
Industry experts warn of power shortages due to 'renewable' energy
"Traditional and nuclear power plants are being retired to make way for renewable sources of energy, but the plants are going offline faster than renewable energy and battery storage can keep up."
John Bear, the CEO of MISO told the press on Sunday, "As we move forward, we need to know that when you put a solar panel or a wind turbine up, it?s not the same as a thermal resource."
https://thepostmillennial.com/industry-experts-warn-of-potential-power-shortages
Even the Boy King cannot hide it....
California Needs More Power to Keep the Lights on This Summer
It?s incredible when you consider that California, at one time, had five working nuclear power plants. Now they have one. The state used to have 242,000 oil wells. They now have a little more than half that number.
The state sits on a mountain of coal. It has effectively banned hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil from hard-to-drill places. It has plenty of ?renewable? energy sources ? like wind and solar power? except officials wildly overestimated how much energy those ?renewables? would generate. This has resulted in brownouts and blackouts in recent years.
The same thing is going to happen this year ? only worse.
Knowing that the switch to solar and wind power generation would lead to far less electricity being generated ? and not caring about it ? is criminal stupidity. California ? one of the original NIMBY states ? deserves every brownout, every blackout it gets.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...er-to-keep-the-lights-on-this-summer-n1595966
Industry experts warn of power shortages due to 'renewable' energy
"Traditional and nuclear power plants are being retired to make way for renewable sources of energy, but the plants are going offline faster than renewable energy and battery storage can keep up."
John Bear, the CEO of MISO told the press on Sunday, "As we move forward, we need to know that when you put a solar panel or a wind turbine up, it?s not the same as a thermal resource."
https://thepostmillennial.com/industry-experts-warn-of-potential-power-shortages
Even the Boy King cannot hide it....
California Needs More Power to Keep the Lights on This Summer
It?s incredible when you consider that California, at one time, had five working nuclear power plants. Now they have one. The state used to have 242,000 oil wells. They now have a little more than half that number.
The state sits on a mountain of coal. It has effectively banned hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, to extract oil from hard-to-drill places. It has plenty of ?renewable? energy sources ? like wind and solar power? except officials wildly overestimated how much energy those ?renewables? would generate. This has resulted in brownouts and blackouts in recent years.
The same thing is going to happen this year ? only worse.
Knowing that the switch to solar and wind power generation would lead to far less electricity being generated ? and not caring about it ? is criminal stupidity. California ? one of the original NIMBY states ? deserves every brownout, every blackout it gets.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politi...er-to-keep-the-lights-on-this-summer-n1595966