Differences between Chinese food

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SoCal said:
So, tell me. Where can an English girl get a boba drink? I could have swore I saw it once at Starbucks or some other common (non-Asian) chain but I could be wrong.

I don't know what that robot is.

Where can't you get a Boba drink?  Not at a Starbucks though...if you live in Irvine...Lollicups are everywhere...they have them at 85 degrees. 
 
SoCal said:
Irvinecommuter said:
You get a wide straw and chew the boba (don't drink it...you'll choke).

Thank you!! - I thought so!  :o
But then again, if you're not supposed to swallow it, why the wide straw? - You see, it is confusing.

I figure people sip the drink and the boba is just a garnish - not meant to be eaten. I saw a person leave it all in the bottom of their cup before. I guess that's why I thought it's just for decoration. Maybe that person just doesn't know what to do with it like me.  :P

You are supposed to swallow it...just don't drink it straight.  It's kinda like eating cereal with milk except it's mostly milk and some cereal. 
 
irvinehomeowner said:
SoCal said:
I don't know what that robot is.
Mr. SoCal will be quite upset at that statement.

I can barely discern Star Wars vs. Star Trek. The names are interchangeable to me. I don't know which one that is from but from what you say - I'm guessing it's a tip Boba is one of those storm troopers or whatever. Am I getting warmer?
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Where can't you get a Boba drink?  Not at a Starbucks though...if you live in Irvine...Lollicups are everywhere...they have them at 85 degrees. 

I'll have to stop for a boba and balut one weekend. Swing by for a stomach pump on the way home.
 
SoCal said:
I'll have to stop for a boba and balut one weekend. Swing by for a stomach pump on the way home.
Boba does not compare to duck fetus.

I would rather eat frog legs than balut.

Boba is like syrup flavored gummy bears.
 
Silly, Iho. SoCal has no frame of reference for frog legs. Do you mean:

Frog legs = yummy but balut = super yummy
or
Frog legs = yuck and balut = blech

I remember you mentioning catching frogs as a youth. I didn't realize you were catching dinner.

I've had duck. It was delicious but I won't go near balut.
 
Let's start with some broad regional dishes.

North-Eastern Chinese food

North-Eastern region of China is geographically defined as the 3 northern provinces in NE China.  However, in culinary terms it can include the 4 provinces north of Beijing:  Inner Mongolia, Liaoning, Jilin, & Heilongjiang.

Although the Northern Chinese were probably the first to harvest wild rice, the local conditions were not optimal to growing multiple harvest during the year.  Wheat and other grains like millet were the preferred crop.  Thus, the stereotype Northern Chinese Food is usually noodles, steamed buns, dumplings, and such.  Northerners tend to be physically taller, less lactose intolerant, less financially savvy (poor-er compared to the South), and the food tend to be less refined.  However, since the Imperial Court was in Beijing, you'd find exceptionally refined dishes from few urban cities.

Because it gets really cold in the northern areas, the people tend to pickle vegetables from summer harvest.  Chinese Napa cabbage is pickled like sauerkraut, and put in hot pots, dumplings, and other dishes.

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Unlike the hot pots today, the ingredients were fairly limited in ye olde days.  Usually it's just pickled veggies with sliced fatty pork.  Sometimes sliced lamb is used:

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Corn is an important corp in the north, and cornmeal is mixed in the dough to make steamed breads.  It's possible that various ancient varieties of maize may have existed in China before the 15th century, but records show that widespread cultivation did not occur until after the 1500's, when corn, tomatoes, South American chili peppers, potatoes, and sweet potatoes were introduced from the Americas.

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Sachima (???)

This is a sweets dish of Manchurian origin, made with flour, butter, and sugar.  There are many variations across China and Taiwan.  The Tartar ??k??k (???-???/chak-chak) is very similar to this dish (http://randomness.dreamwidth.org/233790.html):
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??? Guo Bao Rou - think of it as sweet and sour pork

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???? (North Eastern chop suey stew) -- in olde days this is what you do with kitchen leftovers, toss them into a pot.  These days they're made with fresh ingredients and served at restaurants.

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????? Pork with clear noodles stew
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You might have noticed that a lot of dishes are stews, hot pots, and steamed.  This is due to the cold climate.  To illustrate:
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Chinese dumplings have been recorded since the Three Kingdoms period (~1,800 years ago).  We're pretty sure that it remained similar in shape because the records called it "moon shaped wontons", and it still looks like a half moon today, though due to our prosperity today it's more like an overweight half moon shaped dumpling.  In the Three Kingdoms period (220 AD) they were called moon-shaped "wontons" (??), and by Southern Song Dynasty period (1127 AD) the common name had been changed to Jiaozi (??), possibly after "Jiao" (?) for horn-shape.

Dumplings is a wide spread dish and you basically put whatever ingredients you have on hand into it.  The Manchus were known to put pickled veggies and game meats into their dumplings.  Today dumplings with pickled napa is seen as a northern variety of the dish, versus the south have much more refined varieties seen in dim sum carts today.

?????? Pickled napa and pork dumplings:
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Here's a few places to look at more NE Chinese dishes:http://www.meishij.net/china-food/caixi/dongbeicai/http://www.meishij.net/chufang/diy/sijiacai/166316.htmlhttp://www.haochi123.com/s_caipu/C_Caixi/List_114.htm
 
A&J on the other side of jeffrey 99 is a good place for taiwanese snacks... great place to go if u dont want like a full meal but just something to snack on... menus in mandarin tho so gluck if u cant read chinese
 
boba actually literally slang for big boobs... i had a laugh reading everybodies comments on the appropriate way of eating boba and how it tastes like milk

back home in taiwan its actually traditionally called "fen yuan" (powder balls or something) if its not with tea... some places like to call it frog eggs...

only some boba shops have the mini-bobas... i prefer those more then the large ones  :-[
 
Irvinecommuter said:
irvinehomeowner said:
Being Austrian... I don't have any idea, but maybe this is something that momopi can answer.

What is the difference between:

1. Chinese

2. Taiwanese

3. Hong Kong

The first I am kind of familiar with (well... Americanized Chinese food)... and the 2nd seems like it's rice dishes, popcorn chicken and shaved ice (at least that's what I see at all those Taiwanese cafes)... but what is different about the 3rd? Is Hong Kong the Beef Noodle soup one (or is that Taiwanese?).

I feel like SoCal.

Chinese is pretty much all encompassing...Chinese cuisine is actually divided into eight different types of cuisine but the the four most popular are Mandarin, Cantonese, Szechuan, and Shanghai.  Those types are regional in nature(kinda of like Southern food v. California v. Midwest). 

Mandarin is cuisine from Northern China and generally more balanced and refined.  Noodles and wraps are used a lot (as opposed to rice).  Dishes are usually very light and delicate and do not rely on heavy sauces.  Beef and lamb are the primary meats as well as exotics like duck and quail.  Mandarin Cuisine is what you would usually get if you go to a high end Chinese restaurant in Asia. 

Cantonese comes from the province of Guangdong (or Canton), which is in the south of China and a tradition trade hub.  Hong Kong food is pretty much Cantonese in origin.  Cantonese food focus on speed and rice-focused.  A lot of seafood and a wide variety of meats.  Cantonese food is what most Westerners consider to be "Chinese food".

Shanghai cuisine is a mix between Mandarin and Cantonese as Shanghai is located between Beijing and Canton.  Shanghai is also a port city and thus have easy access to fish/seafood.  Shanghai cuisine uses both noodles and rice and is generally sweeter than the other Chinese cuisines.  It also features alcohol as a major ingredient.

Szechuan cuisine is from the Szechuan province which is located in the inner parts of China.  It uses spices and chili as primary flavoring.  There is relatively little meat and almost no seafood in the cuisine (due to the landlock nature of Szechuan).  Most of the dishes are spicy and/or peppery in flavor.

Taiwanese food is sort of an amalgamation of all the cuisine above.  Taiwan cuisine developed when the KMT retreated to Taiwan, which resulted in the all of the cultures/regions of Chinese being squeezed into a small island.  It has features of all of the cuisines and features dishes with rices and noodles.  The food is more "tapa-esque" as opposed to family style where the dishes are complete meal within itself.  Meats and seafood are used but not usually the primary ingredients.  Most Taiwanese food develop from a lunch cart/night market culture and meant to be eaten quickly.  Most of Taiwanese food are meant to be snacked on rather than a sit down meal. 

There is also Hong Kong style cafe food which combines Chinese food with Western (English) cuisine.  HK style cafes serve milk teas and coffee and serve both traditional Chinese food as well as things like sandwiches and pork chops.

@irvinecommuter, could you elaborate on why mandarin cuisine is more refined? I've never felt light after eating at Peking restaurant in Westminster.
 
SoCal said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Boba culture is basically coffee culture but Taiwanified.
What does "Taiwanified" mean? I have no frame of reference.

Example:  Starbucks is "Americanized" coffee culture.


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