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eyephone said:
Florida changed its Covid death reporting method making toll look less bad, newspaper?s analysis claims
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Anyone with a functioning brain knows that Florida has always been under-reporting their COVID cases and deaths.
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For 105 days, COVID?s death toll in Florida counties went missing

The Florida Department of Health knows how many people are dying in each county, but stopped telling the public on June 4. That?s when state officials stopped releasing daily pandemic data, switched to weekly reports and started withholding data once available to the public.

Instead, state officials decided to issue weekly reports. They also chose to withhold information that had been public, including: county-level vaccinations by race, age and gender; infected patients and staff in long-term health care facilities; and infections among students and school staff.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/healt...-death-toll-in-florida-counties-went-missing/

The troll uses tampabay news as a source. But when we use it as a source. He calls it an opinion piece. lol



 
Ahhh...the Swedes...sweet, sweet natural immunity, no mask mandates no vaccine mandates ...you would expect a disaster...not so much...
 

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Posting up way better numbers than other countries with higher vaccination numbers...
 

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morekaos said:
Ahhh...the Swedes...sweet, sweet natural immunity, no mask mandates no vaccine mandates ...you would expect a disaster...not so much...
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Sometimes you really post the dumbest shit.

Sweden has higher vaccination rate than the US...
 
But no mandates (mask or vaccinations), no closed schools, no closed business, and lower infection rates then pretty much everybody.  No Delta wave either. Like Florida they did this right.
 
morekaos said:
But no mandates (mask or vaccinations), no closed schools, no closed business, and lower infection rates then pretty much everybody. Like Florida they did this right.
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Higher vaccination rate than the US ==> sweet, sweet, natural immunity.

You really are dense.

Sweden doesn't need mandates because they don't have anti-vaxx Trumpers.
 
Vermonters are seeing the error in their ways...Live life...enjoy!!

Move on from failed vax, mask policy

One reason he stated is that we have ?low natural immunity.? Are any reporters asking the follow up questions here? How could this be?

Our vaccination rate is the highest in the country! We were one of the ?best? restricted states in the country during 2020-21! Proudly we wear masks while sneering at the scarlet letter of those who go bare-faced in the grocery store and we gossip about Floridians and Texans as if they are the prodigal children of our country for their low vaccination rates and anti-mask stances. How dare they endanger the rest of us? Biden?s ?patience is wearing thin? for all those non-vaxxers.

In Vermont, we have missed weddings, funerals, graduations, Thanksgiving and many joyful gatherings for the common good (but we did gather to protest). Yet, we now have THE HIGHEST COVID-19 CASE RATE IN THE COUNTRY. Yes, the all-caps are my yelling words. We masked! We hid in our homes! My friends could not access non-Covid-19 healthcare they needed! I amassed copious amounts of toilet paper! I cancelled Thanksgiving! We vaccinated and we shunned other-thinkers.

Have you watched football games in Florida and Texas? 80,000 people gathering and no masks. No proof of vaccines. Yet, at the Flynn Theater here in Burlington, Vermont, at a show for a few hundred people we are masking and forcing proof of vaccine, which might be only be 50-75% effective as immunity wanes, or proof of a test showing that 3 days ago the patron did not have Covid-19. Not. Logical.

Yet the public here seems to be thrilled that they are with like-minded people who are ?safe? because they got the jab and have a colorful mask. We have our badge of honor on a piece of paper that shows we have apparently waned immunity (according to the CDC).

Are we better off than Texas and Florida based on state Covid-19 rates? No. Texas and Florida schools have no masks. Vermont kids do. Still, lower rates! Texans and Floridians have been living life, attending weddings and schools and getting exposed to COVID and getting ?natural immunity? while we were hiding and creating a culture of fear and division for the haves and have-nots of the vaccine.

https://vermontdailychronicle.com/2021/11/12/bowen-move-on-from-failed-vax-mask-policy/
 
Personal anecdote:
I have seen more vaccine injuries than people affected by Covid. But if you don't go out much and live your life, just stay home, pay your taxes, watch the news and keep jabbing up.
 
akula1488 said:
Personal anecdote:
I have seen more vaccine injuries than people affected by Covid. But if you don't go out much and live your life, just stay home, pay your taxes, watch the news and keep jabbing up.
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That's a load of dishonest bull crap. 785,592 Americans have died of COVID. How many have died of vaccine?
 
I'm confused. Why would a surge of COVID cases be a problem in Gibraltar (or anywhere)? Shouldn't they be celebrating the incredible Natural Immunity(tm) that they're getting?
 
fatduck said:
I'm confused. Why would a surge of COVID cases be a problem in Gibraltar (or anywhere)? Shouldn't they be celebrating the incredible Natural Immunity(tm) that they're getting?
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They thought the vaccine would stop it?virus gotta virus..they got it anyway.
 
morekaos said:
fatduck said:
I'm confused. Why would a surge of COVID cases be a problem in Gibraltar (or anywhere)? Shouldn't they be celebrating the incredible Natural Immunity(tm) that they're getting?
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They thought the vaccine would stop it?virus gotta virus..they got it anyway.
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But why cancel Christmas? Shouldn't it be a celebration? Natural Immunity, woo! 
 
Gibraltar, near the top in deaths per million inhabitants in Europe at 2900.

Since completing their vax program, 4 deaths since end of March putting them 2nd to bottom next to Ireland, far below Norway, and Finland and a staggering 1/10th that of natural ? unity Sweden weighing in at 1400.
 
That's good...

OSHA Suspends Enforcement of Biden?s Vaccine Mandate

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration has suspended implementation and enforcement of the Biden administration?s vaccine mandate for private employers after a federal court blocked the measure.

The OSHA website page dedicated to the COVID Vaccine Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) reads: ?While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation.?

Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit fully blocked Biden?s executive order requiring companies with over 100 workers to mandate vaccination for their employees after temporarily staying it on November 12. The court ordered that OSHA ?take no steps to implement or enforce? the vaccine mandate ?until further court order.?

By its mandate, the Biden administration is claiming that the federal government, through congressional legislation, has regulatory power to issue a medical mandate for the sake of public health and therefore general welfare.

However, since the directive was announced, many legal scholars have challenged its constitutionality, given that the legislation it relies on for authority explicitly states that an ETS can only be issued when employees are exposed to a ?grave danger? that necessitates immediate action. That case is becoming increasingly difficult to argue, given the fact that some vaccinated individuals can transmit the disease and that treatment options for COVID infections are expanding. As of Tuesday, the Biden administration is planning to purchase 10 million doses of Pfizer?s antiviral medication to treat patents with COVID.

https://news.yahoo.com/osha-suspends-enforcement-biden-vaccine-171701465.html
 
Yea, we don?t want to end up surging like South Korea and reducing our case load by 90%.


morekaos said:
That's good...

OSHA Suspends Enforcement of Biden?s Vaccine Mandate

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration has suspended implementation and enforcement of the Biden administration?s vaccine mandate for private employers after a federal court blocked the measure.

The OSHA website page dedicated to the COVID Vaccine Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) reads: ?While OSHA remains confident in its authority to protect workers in emergencies, OSHA has suspended activities related to the implementation and enforcement of the ETS pending future developments in the litigation.?

Last week, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit fully blocked Biden?s executive order requiring companies with over 100 workers to mandate vaccination for their employees after temporarily staying it on November 12. The court ordered that OSHA ?take no steps to implement or enforce? the vaccine mandate ?until further court order.?

By its mandate, the Biden administration is claiming that the federal government, through congressional legislation, has regulatory power to issue a medical mandate for the sake of public health and therefore general welfare.

However, since the directive was announced, many legal scholars have challenged its constitutionality, given that the legislation it relies on for authority explicitly states that an ETS can only be issued when employees are exposed to a ?grave danger? that necessitates immediate action. That case is becoming increasingly difficult to argue, given the fact that some vaccinated individuals can transmit the disease and that treatment options for COVID infections are expanding. As of Tuesday, the Biden administration is planning to purchase 10 million doses of Pfizer?s antiviral medication to treat patents with COVID.

https://news.yahoo.com/osha-suspends-enforcement-biden-vaccine-171701465.html
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