Condo above garages - is it loud?

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roundcorners said:
It's one thing that we SACRIFICE dearly... that we still sacrifice TODAY..!  We missed countless gatherings, events and rushed home just to put the kid down in his OWN bed!

We can count on one hand the times he took a nap or slept outside his bed, since 3-years ago...  It just breaks our hearts to see parents stroll their sleepy toddlers at the South Coast Plaza while mommy just has to go to the Apple store...

:o Some of my best memories when my first was that age was pushing him around the mall in his stroller during the day while he was all "snug as a bug in a rug". I never would have thought you & your wife would have looked at me as a crappy mom for doing that. The boy slept like a rock. He was always a good sleeper but I feel getting him comfortable in those situations helped him to learn to not be bothered by distractions as well. I always made sure he was fed, clean, dry, had a blankie, and was comfortable. It certainly wasn't a daily thing (most naps were taken at home with him either on my chest or in his bed) but I feel it's a lot different than the parents you see hauling their kids to the grocery store at 11 p.m. when they should be in bed at a proper hour. I'll admit to having looked at them and gone, "What the heck."

Imo, you are overprotective as most first-time parents are. At the first peep from their child, the parent freaks out. Just wait until you have your second child. The first will dictate the schedule and there will be no time to tip-toe around the baby. Trust me on this. You sound almost intimidated by your child. He's going to be running that house in ten years.
 
irvinehomeshopper said:
I am not greedy. 1/2 of an acre is sufficient enough for privacy. I would be living my ultimate dream if the garage is totally separate from the house.

qwerty said:
roundcorners said:
qwerty said:
roundcorners said:
I would pick a fight with anyone who wakes my son up... why do you people have to live like this...?

Ok tough guy.  why do you think your kid sleeping is more important than them using their living space as they see fit? They bought their place just like you bought yours and can use it accordingly.


My point was that my son's sleep is VERY important to us and his development.  Living in Irvine did become too stressful because of the noise above and the tight living situation.  And if my son, gets woken up by some jerk watching concert videos in his garage, who isn't suppose to use his garage as living quarters that I would be pissed!

But who can blame you guys in Irvine; life would be miserable anywhere if you decide to live on top of one another like that..

i would never live in an attached product. right now we rent a house with sideyards, front yard and backyard, a true SFR and the neighbor kid sometimes starts playing an instrument like at 9pm. Unless you own a acre you are going to hear the damn instruments regardless of attached, homes 10ft apart, ect.    In the kids defense, he never goes longer than 15-20 minutes.

Detach garage please... tell that to the wife! & I'm even more simple, I will take 6,500 sq/ft lot... if U're BK, you know which hood I'm talking about, and if you're BK, we need to go to lunch again, my turn to pay...
 
Amber... I'm the last person to tell a parent what to do, but I would have to agree with the author that there is a difference between the quality of sleep when the kid is in their own bed versus being pushed around in stroller...

yes, we are freaked out parents, and the kid is turning out to be our first and last, yes, seeing as how he runs our lives...
 
roundcorners said:
Of all the things we held the line since having our son was.. sleep...
http://www.amazon.com/Healthy-Sleep-Habits-Happy-Child/dp/0449004023

It's one thing that we SACRIFICE dearly... that we still sacrifice TODAY..!  We missed countless gatherings, events and rushed home just to put the kid down in his OWN bed!

We can count on one hand the times he took a nap or slept outside his bed, since 3-years ago...  It just breaks our hearts to see parents stroll their sleepy toddlers at the South Coast Plaza while mommy just has to go to the Apple store...

I agree most cities have their noise problems, but you will be surprise to see what you can find outside of Irvine if you just give it a chance and open you eyes a little; it's a give and take and it's taking the good along with the bad...

But again, it just breaks my heart, seeing what TIC, IAC and Irvine Builders subject Families to, all for the sake of keeping the "Loving where you live" image...

It breaks your heart to see a kid sleeping in a stroller?

I read that book too, and I think it made me a crazy person. It made me into a nap Nazi. Luckily, I eventually I relaxed and realized that kids turn out fine if they occasionally nap in a stroller, car seat, or wherever. They probably actually turn out better, because they have learned to adapt and be flexible (good life skills to have). And life was more enjoyable for me, too, without having to rush home to get the kid back to his crib for his designated nap time. If we are blessed with a second child, I will be SO much more flexible than I was with the first!
 
rkp said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
wow, what an honor that you compared me to the legendary bk known for his novel long insightful posts and wisdom. I doubt he is a brown noser like me and my longest post don't even come near to his intro.

roundcorners said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
The ideal solution is not to build over thr garage or keep the garage separate from the house. To the developers that is like seeing a Benjamin on the ground and not picking it up.

The more I read IHS... BK, is that you?  Why do People & Cars have to live together?  SFR, with set-back, front yard, side-yards, and back-yard and a detached garage (in back with Alley access) with studio on top... FTW, again not in Irvine...

hmmm...i always assumed you were the same person as BK...wonder how many other people thought that as well...

i guess that irked me even more as i used to have a folder on one of my PCs of insightful things BK would share....good to know you 2 arent same person as you are not insightful or helpful  :D

This BK person is starting to sound like Keyser Soze...a legend that former IHB'ers tell their children about, scaring them so they will not buy ugly stucco boxes in Irvine.
 
(Totally off topic) but in response to Trace - agreed, imo, babies / young kids do some of their best napping in a moving vehicle. Why else do people take their little one for a spin around the block when they're having trouble sleeping... because it works, that's why.

Sorry, everyone. Back to your regularly-scheduled programming...
 
to be clear, I was mainly referring more to Toddlers, not infants...  I know infants need that background noise, but 6-months or older, kids need quality sleep... sleep deprivation is akin to physical abuse in my opinion...
 
roundcorners said:
to be clear, I was mainly referring more to Toddlers, not infants...  I know infants need that background noise, but 6-months or older, kids need quality sleep... sleep deprivation is akin to physical abuse in my opinion...

I take offense at this. Letting a kid sleep in a stroller is not sleep deprivation and it's definitely not child abuse.

If your heart's gonna break for a child, let it break for the Powell boys in Washington...not the kid in South Coast Plaza napping in a stroller.
 
RC, do you think the parents who travel to Asia on those 14-16 hour flights should be booked for torture?
It's not just a nap.. the parents are disrupting their entire schedule ;-)
 
RC is a nut job parent. Whatever he says just do the opposite and your kid will be fine.  Im sure most of us didnt have nap/sleep schedules and we all turned out just fine.  A kid will fall asleep if he is tired.  RC is that friend who uses the baby as the excuse to get out of doing stuff.  Your kid is supposed to be part of your life, not become your life. And no, i dont have kids and spare me the wait till you have kids speech.
 
Come-on people trying to drive home, watch Money Ball and talk on the phone.. I mean chronic sleep deprivation.. if its a daily habit to skip naps and having to run around all day long
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roundcorners said:
Come-on people trying to drive home, watch Money Ball and talk on the phone.. I mean chronic sleep deprivation.. if its a daily habit to skip naps and having to run around all day long
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I wish I could took daily naps but I found on those days that I have, I could not fall asleep at night....really threw my sleep clock off.
 
Or put the crib in a bedroom over other neighbors garage. The vibration and noise will do just the same.
SoCal78 said:
(Totally off topic) but in response to Trace - agreed, imo, babies / young kids do some of their best napping in a moving vehicle. Why else do people take their little one for a spin around the block when they're having trouble sleeping... because it works, that's why.

Sorry, everyone. Back to your regularly-scheduled programming...
 
The children will not have a choice to choose between a good house and a decent house. It will likely be a bad house or the worse house. They will be extremely lucky if they can buy just an ugly stucco box that comes with a driveway, a yard, and hopefully a 2 car wide garage. When the basic necessity is extracted out asking for a nicer looking house is asking for the moon. This is a very sad day!


traceimage said:
rkp said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
wow, what an honor that you compared me to the legendary bk known for his novel long insightful posts and wisdom. I doubt he is a brown noser like me and my longest post don't even come near to his intro.

roundcorners said:
irvinehomeshopper said:
The ideal solution is not to build over thr garage or keep the garage separate from the house. To the developers that is like seeing a Benjamin on the ground and not picking it up.

The more I read IHS... BK, is that you?  Why do People & Cars have to live together?  SFR, with set-back, front yard, side-yards, and back-yard and a detached garage (in back with Alley access) with studio on top... FTW, again not in Irvine...

hmmm...i always assumed you were the same person as BK...wonder how many other people thought that as well...

i guess that irked me even more as i used to have a folder on one of my PCs of insightful things BK would share....good to know you 2 arent same person as you are not insightful or helpful  :D

This BK person is starting to sound like Keyser Soze...a legend that former IHB'ers tell their children about, scaring them so they will not buy ugly stucco boxes in Irvine.
 
Read this post and I just had to add my two cents.

I bought a condo (carriage style) in '99 that in addition to my own ATTACHED garage, sits over a DETACHED double car garage. Detached. Meaning the condo that is part and parcel to it, is not attached directly to it. The individuals who live in that condo and use the garage are renters who've rented longer than I've owned. The situation has been an ongoing thorn in my side pretty much from the beginning, but has gotten worse in the last several years. Reason? From what I can tell, none of the 4 occupants work, so that means they are ALWAYS home and what do they do?? They open and close their garage door excessively. Every. Single. Day. For the most part, they're not even coming or going in their cars. For some weird, and I can't figure it out, reason, they mostly abstain from using the small access door in favor of, you got it, opening and shutting the big garage door. In the past I've (nicely) talked to them about it, and they either think I'm nuts, or that I'm just being a pain in the a**. It is true that if you are standing outside in front of it and it's raised or lowered, it's not terribly noisy. But inside my place, it's another story. I realize that I'm going to hear something, of course, I don't expect not to. Believe me, I wouldn't have an issue with it if they were like any other neighbor of mine, (including myself) and open the big door 2 to 3 times a day. That I could deal with. But excessively, it's not fun. There have been numerous occasions over the many years that while home and paying attention, the door will be opened and closed at least 10 times a day. It's opened, and 2 minutes later, closed. In another 15 minutes, it's opened again, couple minutes later, closed...and NO cars are going anywhere!!!! This goes on all the time. When they do use the small access door, more often than not, it's not closed quietly.

So, my advice is, think long and hard about purchasing this type of unit. If I had known prior to buying, I NEVER would've bought mine. But then again, I just happened to get extremely unlucky in buying a place over neighbors who are probably the biggest losers in the complex.
 
eenymeeny said:
The individuals who live in that condo and use the garage are renters who've rented longer than I've owned.

I just happened to get extremely unlucky in buying a place over neighbors who are probably the biggest losers in the complex.

So that's where quattroporte lives.
 
Quattroporte, we used to have a member name graphrix, I think you'll like him.

graphrix said:
What a troll! No seriously... TI hasn't seen a douchebag troll like test since asianinvasian... wait... are they the same person? Me thinks so. Gotta love the laid off Lyon employee coming on here taking pot shots like this. It only proves his ignorance. He is so dumb he doesn't even know what a put option is, and this is when he went under the moniker of "jpmorganfunds", what an asshat. Bring on the stupid, test, your ignorance is always welcome for a debate on why you catch a Frisbee in the mouth each and every time. BTW, I heard you were invited to OCR. Bring it! I need some short bus helmet riders like you to make fun of. How is your investment in VOC going? LOL!
 
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