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irvinehusky

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What does that College Readiness number mean?  Does it really mean only 1/3 of students graduating from Woodbridge High are college ready and the other 2/3 will end up at McDonalds and Starbucks?  Please say no.  :(

http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/california/rankings?name=school+name&schooltypepublic=y&schooltypemagnet=y&state=ca&county=saddleback%2Cirvine&schooltypecharter=y
 
No, no.  The 1/3 corresponds to 100% of the Tiger population.  The other lowly 2/3 are from the "other" groups.  :P

Cubic Zirconia said:
Wow! Tiger parenting failure rate is high..I would have imagined all Irvine kids are 100% college ready.
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How do 65% and 61% percent pass AP courses and only 62% be deemed college ready?  I thought AP were college level courses.

I'm extremely jaded on our education system which is no longer about preparing people to be productive members of society and instead now is focused on never ending "education" and propagation of the education system. IMHO.
 
nosuchreality said:
How do 65% and 61% percent pass AP courses and only 62% be deemed college ready?  I thought AP were college level courses.

I'm extremely jaded on our education system which is no longer about preparing people to be productive members of society and instead now is focused on never ending "education" and propagation of the education system. IMHO.
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Yup....not to mention AP classes are pointless for college purposes.  You can't use them for your majors and you have plenty of time in 4 years to get all your GEs in.  It's just a way for GPA inflation and for bragging purposes.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
nosuchreality said:
How do 65% and 61% percent pass AP courses and only 62% be deemed college ready?  I thought AP were college level courses.

I'm extremely jaded on our education system which is no longer about preparing people to be productive members of society and instead now is focused on never ending "education" and propagation of the education system. IMHO.
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Yup....not to mention AP classes are pointless for college purposes.  You can't use them for your majors and you have plenty of time in 4 years to get all your GEs in.  It's just a way for GPA inflation and for bragging purposes.
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I thought AP classes allow you to skip "entry level" courses.

From what I remember, my AP Math credits allowed me not have to take Freshman math courses... I could have taken Sophomore tracks but was lazy and saved them for my 2nd year. I think I skipped an English or Writing course too because of AP English.
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Irvinecommuter said:
nosuchreality said:
How do 65% and 61% percent pass AP courses and only 62% be deemed college ready?  I thought AP were college level courses.

I'm extremely jaded on our education system which is no longer about preparing people to be productive members of society and instead now is focused on never ending "education" and propagation of the education system. IMHO.
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Yup....not to mention AP classes are pointless for college purposes.  You can't use them for your majors and you have plenty of time in 4 years to get all your GEs in.  It's just a way for GPA inflation and for bragging purposes.
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I thought AP classes allow you to skip "entry level" courses.

From what I remember, my AP Math credits allowed me not have to take Freshman math courses... I could have taken Sophomore tracks but was lazy and saved them for my 2nd year. I think I skipped an English or Writing course too because of AP English.
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You can use them to skip GE but you can always find some super easy course for GE.  Actually, it's good to take GE.  One of the best classes I took in college was a film studies class.
 
Honestly, if your kid can graduate a decent HS and get into a major university, they're college ready.

What you should worry about is social skills and self-worth. 
 
So, what is a passing grade for AP courses?  When I took it long ago, I think you got a grade between 1 and 5.  And, you could get college credit if your score was 4 or 5.  Is that still the case?
 
So true.

Irvinecommuter said:
Honestly, if your kid can graduate a decent HS and get into a major university, they're college ready.

What you should worry about is social skills and self-worth.
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Irvinecommuter said:
You can use them to skip GE but you can always find some super easy course for GE.  Actually, it's good to take GE.  One of the best classes I took in college was a film studies class.
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But then you waste your time taking/paying for a class you already know.

Depending on your degree... 4 years may not be enough so sometimes it's better to skip the lower class GEs so you can fast track to the upper class courses. If you're going to take GE at a college/university, you would be better off doing that at a community college, it cost less (but I guess you lose 2 years of the "college" experience).
 
irvinehomeowner said:
Irvinecommuter said:
You can use them to skip GE but you can always find some super easy course for GE.  Actually, it's good to take GE.  One of the best classes I took in college was a film studies class.
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But then you waste your time taking/paying for a class you already know.

Depending on your degree... 4 years may not be enough so sometimes it's better to skip the lower class GEs so you can fast track to the upper class courses. If you're going to take GE at a college/university, you would be better off doing that at a community college, it cost less (but I guess you lose 2 years of the "college" experience).
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Well, most university/college have a flat fee where you can take classes up to a certain number units (usually 20).  Community colleges and CSUs (?) are the ones you have generally have to pay by class.  I was able to complete a double major in four years and all my GEs.  There is plenty of time and units.
 
Irvinecommuter said:
Well, most university/college have a flat fee where you can take classes up to a certain number units (usually 20).  Community colleges and CSUs (?) are the ones you have generally have to pay by class.  I was able to complete a double major in four years and all my GEs.  There is plenty of time and units.
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at SC you can take 12-18 units for the low price of $22K per semester. and if you are an over achiever you can take extra units for $1,473/unit.
 
qwerty said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Well, most university/college have a flat fee where you can take classes up to a certain number units (usually 20).  Community colleges and CSUs (?) are the ones you have generally have to pay by class.  I was able to complete a double major in four years and all my GEs.  There is plenty of time and units.
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at SC you can take 12-18 units for the low price of $22K per semester. and if you are an over achiever you can take extra units for $1,473/unit.
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Unfortunately they charged per unit for grad school at SC.  :(  But it was only $973/unit when I was there.  :D
 
My god, I wonder how any of you have any money left.  :P

I'm sure they long closed that loophole by now but when I was going to UW, there was no limit to how many credits you could take.  And, there were four quarters including summer quarter.  But each quarter's tuition was about $285;Not per class or unit, the whole quarter of unlimited credits, if you could handle it.  Braniacs in my EE classes were taking 6 to 8 difficult EE courses and graduating early and getting good grades.  And, no, those courses were not easy courses.  Average people cannot do that anyway.
 
When I talk about extra cost, I'm not saying that you are charged per unit... most universities charge per quarter/semester. What I'm talking about is if you use your 1st year to take GE classes (which AP credits will cover) then you don't have that extra year to take other courses that might be more useful or interesting to you.

And yes, 4 years can be enough but that depends if you are working during college, type of degree, etc etc.
 
I remember I had a bunch of AP credit that I was considered a sophomore when I entered college.  It gave me registration priority in getting the classes I needed over my class peers.  Of course I wasted about a year in frivolous classes like Asian Am, Chinese History, before I hunkered down for classes for my major (undeclared for 2 years).  If I was more focused, I could've finished college in 3 but then taking those extra classes pinpointed me in the direction I should go.  I would think if not for the AP units, I would've been a super senior.
 
ps9 said:
I remember I had a bunch of AP credit that I was considered a sophomore when I entered college.  It gave me registration priority in getting the classes I needed over my class peers.  Of course I wasted about a year in frivolous classes like Asian Am, Chinese History, before I hunkered down for classes for my major (undeclared for 2 years).  If I was more focused, I could've finished college in 3 but then taking those extra classes pinpointed me in the direction I should go.  I would think if not for the AP units, I would've been a super senior.
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Same here.... finished undergrad in 2 years. 


 
USCTrojanCPA said:
qwerty said:
Irvinecommuter said:
Well, most university/college have a flat fee where you can take classes up to a certain number units (usually 20).  Community colleges and CSUs (?) are the ones you have generally have to pay by class.  I was able to complete a double major in four years and all my GEs.  There is plenty of time and units.
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at SC you can take 12-18 units for the low price of $22K per semester. and if you are an over achiever you can take extra units for $1,473/unit.
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Unfortunately they charged per unit for grad school at SC.  :(  But it was only $973/unit when I was there.  :D
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SC... LOL
 
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