Cetara Orchard Hills The Groves Shea Homes

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

My friend told me that the glass wall in lieu of standard windows and the sliding doors in the great room in Plan 2 is $30k.  That sounds expensive.  Is it advisable and cheaper to find a contractor to do it after closing?

Definitely better to do structural options through the builder. The glass wall, the floating stairs ect.

Seems like a good deal. The floating stairs is a $50k option.

What?s the max weight limit?

2-3k lbs around there.

 

[Movingup]

unofficially all the phases are sold out going by the size of that prequal list. The phases sell out in however fast Leslie and Mei are able to dial and converse with buyers.

So basically are you saying if you are not on the list, don't bother?

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

unofficially all the phases are sold out going by the size of that prequal list. The phases sell out in however fast Leslie and Mei are able to dial and converse with buyers.

So basically are you saying if you are not on the list, don't bother?

oh not at all. Definitely get yourself on the list and have a realtor check you in at the office.

For those late to the party, Homes that fall out of contract don't go to the priority list, they become first come first serve, so that's a possibility. Also people are fickle and impatient. You can get called on the priority as phases move on because people buy elsewhere instead of waiting or change their minds.

 

[E]

unofficially all the phases are sold out going by the size of that prequal list. The phases sell out in however fast Leslie and Mei are able to dial and converse with buyers.

So basically are you saying if you are not on the list, don't bother?

oh not at all. Definitely get yourself on the list and have a realtor check you in at the office.

For those late to the party, Homes that fall out of contract don't go to the priority list, they become first come first serve, so that's a possibility. Also people are fickle and impatient. You can get called on the priority as phases move on because people buy elsewhere instead of waiting or change their minds.

By all the phases do you mean the entire 80+ homes? They seem to be telling ppl the other 40+ homes are still uncertain, the builder hasn?t purchased the lots, plans might not be the same, yada yada yada...kinda feels like a sales tactic. I can?t imagine more than 80 people on the list.

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

It is, they don't want people waiting for the larger lots. They want things getting sold. Options paralyze people. And I can assure you the prequal list is well over 80

 

[E]

It is, they don't want people waiting for the larger lots. They want things getting sold. Options paralyze people. And I can assure you the prequal list is well over 80

That?s insane. If the list is that long, would they builder faster than originally planned? 2023 completion seems very far from now, the higher end of price tag makes Bella Vista look like a steal for those who got it new.

 

[jyeh74]

Everyone keeps comparing Cetara to the Vistas, including myself.  I do not know why TIC released Vistas before Cetara.  They should have saved the Vistas for last.  Probably could have gotten more for them.  For $2m, you could have bought a 5500 sq ft Bella on a 10k lot vs Cetara which is 4K sq ft on a 5k lot in the early phases.  It is a no brainer which one is a better deal.

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

Everyone keeps comparing Cetara to the Vistas, including myself.  I do not know why TIC released Vistas before Cetara.  They should have saved the Vistas for last.  Probably could have gotten more for them. For $2m, you could have bought a 5500 sq ft Bella on a 10k lot vs Cetara which is 4K sq ft on a 5k lot in the early phases.  It is a no brained which one is a better deal.

It was Toll Bros not TIC. Hindsight is 20-20. I recall at the time some people said the vistas were overpriced.
Yes the first phases for just about  any development is something everyone should try to buy either as primary residence or an investment. 

 

[jyeh74]

People thought the Vistas were overpriced in the beginning?  I have never heard that.  Trevi started at $2.5m and they are on a lower elevation without 4 car garages.  Amelia started at $2m with back to back lot situations.  Amelia homes were 5k square feet homes on a 6k sq ft lot.  Most everyone I spoke to thought the Vistas started low before Toll started increasing the prices. But everything is in hindsight.  The track that no one thought would appreciate like it did was La Vita.  I remember how everyone clowned on the piazzas and why anyone would pay $1.5-$1.7m for those. Look at the resales now, especially plan 4.  4k sq ft home selling for what some of the Vistas, which are much larger homes, sell for.

If you were to compare Cetara right now at the current prices to everything that is currently available, Genoa, Ravello or resale, then yeah, Cetara is probably a steal.

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

There were definitely doubters at the time. There always is for everything.
Genoa has more larger lots available so it?s still a good buy if you like big yards.

 

[scubasteve]

There were definitely doubters at the time. There always is for everything.
Genoa has more larger lots available so it?s still a good buy if you like big yards.

Does Genoa have any view lots?

 

[jyeh74]

There were definitely doubters at the time. There always is for everything.
Genoa has more larger lots available so it?s still a good buy if you like big yards.

Does Genoa have any view lots?

No.  But I have heard poor build quality with KB Homes even though people say builders all contract out the work to the same subcontractors.

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

There were definitely doubters at the time. There always is for everything.
Genoa has more larger lots available so it?s still a good buy if you like big yards.

Does Genoa have any view lots?

No.  But I have heard poor build quality with KB Homes even though people say builders all contract out the work to the same subcontractors.

There were definitely doubters at the time. There always is for everything.
Genoa has more larger lots available so it?s still a good buy if you like big yards.

Does Genoa have any view lots?

No long horizon city view lots though they do have some nice orchard facing and elevated lots.

There?s no large builder I know of here in competitive SoCal where I?ll say avoid them. I say treat them all the same, when it comes time to do your walk through hire a home inspector like you would with a resell home give you the ok sign off on the home.

 

[shadyoc]

Kris, interesting to hear you mention that.  I went though the new home buy process before and never thought to hire my own home inspector.  I just used the one the builder used to walk through with us.  I figured if anything breaks, we have warranty through the builder. 

Is it best practice to hire your own to contest things that the builder could miss?  Has anyone on this forum had a poor experience with the builders home inspection?

 

[Goriot]

I think the hype/popularity at Cetara is driving up traffic and sales at Palermo tract as well.  I think Palermo sales picked up after Cetara grand opening or is it more availability of jumbo loans?

 

[usctrojancpa]

Kris, interesting to hear you mention that.  I went though the new home buy process before and never thought to hire my own home inspector.  I just used the one the builder used to walk through with us.  I figured if anything breaks, we have warranty through the builder. 

Is it best practice to hire your own to contest things that the builder could miss?  Has anyone on this forum had a poor experience with the builders home inspection?

It's not just about something that breaks, a home inspection for a new home is a great piece of mind and will reveal if there are any fit/finish issues along with any safety items. I ALWAYS recommend my new home buyers to get a home inspection, some even get a pre-drywall inspection. Then you have a 3rd party inspection report that you can take to the builder and request that all the items be corrected.

 

[usctrojancpa]

I think the hype/popularity at Cetara is driving up traffic and sales at Palermo tract as well.  I think Palermo sales picked up after Cetara grand opening or is it more availability of jumbo loans?

The availability of jumbo loans has always been there if you have good credit and stable income, the market for the higher end has been improving in the past few months.

 

[Dr. CA Real Estate]

Kris, interesting to hear you mention that.  I went though the new home buy process before and never thought to hire my own home inspector.  I just used the one the builder used to walk through with us.  I figured if anything breaks, we have warranty through the builder. 

Is it best practice to hire your own to contest things that the builder could miss?  Has anyone on this forum had a poor experience with the builders home inspection?

It's not just about something that breaks, a home inspection for a new home is a great piece of mind and will reveal if there are any fit/finish issues along with any safety items. I ALWAYS recommend my new home buyers to get a home inspection, some even get a pre-drywall inspection. Then you have a 3rd party inspection report that you can take to the builder and request that all the items be corrected.

Kris, interesting to hear you mention that.  I went though the new home buy process before and never thought to hire my own home inspector.  I just used the one the builder used to walk through with us.  I figured if anything breaks, we have warranty through the builder. 

Is it best practice to hire your own to contest things that the builder could miss?  Has anyone on this forum had a poor experience with the builders home inspection?

Prevention is better than repair essentially. Same principle in medical and any field really.

Do you really want to be dealing with customer service calls and forms to replace an AC 3 times before they realize there's a faulty pipe at cause. A couple hundred can save quite a bit of future headache.

 

[shadyoc]

Do you guys have a good home inspector to recommend?

 

[usctrojancpa]

Do you guys have a good home inspector to recommend?

Give Steve at Bilt-Rite a call at 714-777-9111 (he's a great inspector but a talker).
https://www.yelp.com/biz/bilt-rite-property-inspections-and-consulting-llc-yorba-linda-2