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graphrix,

can you tell me why you think this project is cursed? and why you don't like the area? i am VERY interested in these homes, but i know it's very difficult to sell 375 million+ homes in 2 years so there might be a price hold or drop or more incentives in the later stages. i am pretty set on buying in this community, but would like advice on buying in an earlier phase or waiting for a couple later phases. i am positive that the 2 higher communities will sell as their homes are far superior than the first 2 communities. also, can you give me a reason why i shouldn't buy in this community? i love the area, as it's close to the beach, close to long beach/la, and most importantly close to lil saigon.
 
HB Big Bird



Are you planning on buying cliffs or breakers? They only released 2 ocean view homes and they won't be done until october. i agree w/ you that the homes and the location is great, i'm trying to figure out why everyone is against this project.
 
<p>All the following is just my opinion. Facts may vary.</p>

<p>If you are retired or work from home, it's a nice location. If you don't, it sucks. During rush hour, it's 20+ minutes to the freeway. There's only one and it will put you on that freeway at a point were it is gridlocked in both directions.</p>

<p>Then there is the land. Suffice to say, that land has not been treated well, I woudn't want to depend on it to treat me well. Have you ever smelled Newport's back bay when the tide is out twice a day? Since Bolsa is intertidal marsh, think of it as 20X worse. Plus like much of HB, is ex-oil land. hmmm, beach front oil land that is literally, virtually that last to be developed. Is your spidey-sense tingling?</p>

<p>Third, it's not beach. It's sludge bay. Bolsa just got re-opened to ocean water tides for the first time in about 20 years. That's 20 years of built up run-off and contamination.</p>

<p>Fourth, it's still not beach, if you want to go to the beach, I'd lay 10:1 odds, you get in your car. You still have to go out to PCH which during beach time, sucks.</p>

<p>Fifth, it overlooks Bolsa Chica State beach. Which during summer and much of winter, becomes RV refugee land. Bonfires of painted pallets will blow nicely right into your two million dollar partial ocean view. </p>

<p>Six, in winter rains. The land is sand sediment...</p>

<p>Seven, it's south of Huntington Harbor. Nothing wrong with that, but like Huntington Harbor, it's surrounded by some unpleasantness.</p>

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God yeah, who'd live in one of these places over a nice place in Laguna up on the hill with ocean views? Less house, for sure, but such a better location.
 
To the bloggers who are negative about this community( graphix,winex,elricseven,awgee,irvinerenter),

This site works perfect for you because we don't know who you are. What we do know you will not be buying here, even if prices drop you still won't be able to afford it!!!! My parents taught me at a very young age to work hard provide shelter for your family and follow your dreams. It sounds like the negative bloggers on this site skipped a couple of those steps so now they are mad because they will not be able to enjoy this upcoming community in HB. I bet they were blogging negative stuff when Seacliff was built and it was over-priced back then, but look what happened to Seacliff prices... do I need to say more. Graphix, I will take you up on your bet of $20.00 on Shea Homes completing this community. As I said on my first blog, I will enjoy the community and the views and can't wait for the builder to release the location I am waiting for.
 
HB Big Bird, you have mischaracterized me. I am not negative about the development in the Bolsa Chica Wetlands. The truth is that my expertise doesn't lie in real estate, and as someone relatively new to the area, I don't know much about individual communities.





The negativism you saw in my post was simply directed to you. What can I say other than "I don't like trolls"?
 
I know nothing about the community and have no opinion about it, negative or positive. The only opinion I have is of you. You, HBBB are a blowhard.
 
Yes Big Bird. Us poor people are so envious of the likes of yourself. Please do purchase your home when it becomes available, enjoy your view, and be sure to report back a year from now about how great your purchase was and how housing was a great investment.





By the way, this site works perfect for you Big Bird because we don't know who you are.
 
awgee,



You are correct, HBBB is a blowhard but I have lived in HB over four decades and these are the best ocean views I've seen. I too, toured the bigger models this week and have to admit that I am very impressed. By the way, I was told the cliff's and breaker's were to be completed in 4-5 years not 2 years like frebay stated.



No_such_reality, that is a perfect name for you. If the bolsa chica wetlands are such a contaminated sludge bay than why do the birds like it so much? All you young folks are so bitter! People used to buy a house to live and raise their family in. Quit treating your home like a stock and learn to love thy neighbor. God Bless!
 
Oh boy... looks like a history lesson needs to be taught by graphrix.





<em>frebay: there are 375 homes planned for here? that's a pretty big number of homes. </em>Um... recheck the beginning of this thread, it was originally over 3000 units.





Yes, yes, I am bitter. Doh! Why would I be? I own a home, and an investment property. Here is my advice my grandmother gave me... If you assume, all you have to do is remove the last three letters of assume, and that is what you will look like.





A history lesson, on why this place is cursed, the two other owners of this land, the balance sheet of CALC, and the 30+ years this project has been in the works, will be coming soon.





awgee... how cool is it to be young and bitter? BTW, I have met awgee, and he is one of the most happy, optimistic, and coolest people I have met. The lesson here, don't judge a poster by their comments, they might be a much cooler person than you think.
 
<p><em>"awgee... how cool is it to be young and bitter? "</em></p>

<p>Graph - I don't think anyone would be silly enough to call me young.</p>

<p>oldsalt - I like touring model homes. Where are they?</p>
 
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<p>Damn this dude makes me look mellow!!!!!!!</p>

<p>HBBB</p>

<p>From one who lived on or near the beach most of his life and has owned over 23 homes I say to you buy what you want, live where you enjoy, and be successful and do it quietly without insulting other people. I used to have a shirt that said "There is no life east of PCH" Man was I tacky!!!!!!!! I'll look to see if I can find it for you.</p>

<p>I am somewhat of a realist concerning real estate and there is a great amount of wisdom and knowledge on this board. </p>

<p>After posting here for a while I can assure that there are folks here who can purchase if, where, and when they wish.</p>

<p>There are also some folks who have a bit of a negative attitude and it is always interesting to get their views. Think about the nature of the blog.</p>

<p>Your input would go a lot further without insults.</p>

<p>Regards</p>

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May I one up's you on the tacky? Where I grew up we used to say, "There is no life east of Manhattan Ave.", as a put down to the folks who thought that they were cool because they lived west of PCH. And we lived in our parents homes. Talk about moronic.
 
Models are open. I may go by on Sunday. I think I'll bring my camera, get some shots of the neighborhood and beach to contrast with the beautiful Pier shot they use that is six miles away.
 
<p>Good morning awgee</p>

<p>But we are much older and wiser!!! LOL And aged like fine wine with a wealth of experiences.</p>

<p>I will go for one up on the "tacky meter". When I had a boat in Dana Harbor I had a shirt printed that said: "Marina hours for non boat owners-2:00 am to 3:00am, Tue and Thur".</p>

<p>Top that one! </p>

<p>I still owe you those pix of the Fiat, sorry I have been lazy.</p>

<p><strong>Have a fantastic day!</strong> (realtor speak)</p>

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<p>Morning socal.</p>

<p>You win today's tackiness contest. But only because I am old and have selective memory. Thank goodness.</p>
 
<p>"If the bolsa chica wetlands are such a contaminated sludge bay than why do the birds like it so much?"</p>

<p>Because birds aren't that smart.</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesterson_National_Wildlife_Refuge">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kesterson_National_Wildlife_Refuge</a></p>

<p>I lived through this. Think three legged birds and birds with no beeks. Scary stuff.</p>
 
I think it is rather sad that HBBB's happiness seems to depend on a feeling of superiority and the desire to make everyone else jealous. I must admit, knowing HBBB is going to endure a protracted equity burn in excess of $20,000 a month, coupled with the character flaws demonstrated, is giving me a major schadenfreude fix.





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<p>IR</p>

<p>HBBB represents one of the reasons that I am XSOCAL!!</p>

<p>People need to understand wealth versus income or buying power.</p>

<p>I say no more about this subject!</p>

<p>Well maybe a couple more posts. </p>

<p>Have a fantastic day!</p>

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