basement in California house?

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<p>Basements were built for many practical reasons. Buyers today see basement as nostalgic and not so much for its practical use. Several hundred years ago prior to the Revolution the Colonists were required to open their homes to British soldiers. No one was interested in building homes that look large and inviting. The architectural movement at that time was to disguise the extra stories in basements and attics. The taxation of homes imposed on to Colonial America by the English government was based on the number of visible stories. Homes without basement the floors were also raised several feet above the outside dirt due to deep snow and flooding after winter hence sewer and storm drains did not exist. When the floor of the home was raised several feet above the ground it only made sense to dig into the ground for only several feet and gain a useable basement for keeping food and cured meat since the natural ground temperature is around 50 degree. Other functions of a basement were for hiding and protection. Door access was secretive to fool the British. Length of lumber was another limitation to single story homes. </p>

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<p>Food pantry in the kitchen had a hole on the floor so the convection of cool air from the basement up into the pantry chamber preserved food longer. Refrigerators replaced this practical application. Prior to 1940’s all floor constructions were framed over foundation walls and the space between the dirt and the bottom of the floor were called the crawl space used mostly for running plumbing and heating ducts and keeping the wood away from ground termites. </p>

<p>Many homes equipped with basement for bomb shelters. The threat of atomic bomb started as early as the 30’s but realized in the 40’s. The paranoia prompted the builders in using the basement as good marketing appeal. The invention of slab foundation saves construction cost on framing floor beams on the ground floor as well as speeding up construction time. Other benefits were the elimination of sagging floors and floor creeps. </p>

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<p>The economy of slab foundation is the cheapest in both cost and labor. The boxy construction along with roof trusses eliminated the highly skilled and labor carpenters and replaced with unskilled construction workers during the 40’s. Home design compromised greatly because of this movement. West Floral Park and Floral Park are examples of 2 neighborhood from the 20’s and 40’s that the design aesthetic was obviously compromised. Earthquake is not the major reason for not having a basement. Earlier built homes did not have seismic bolts that tied the structure to the foundation walls so we heard of old homes slipped off from their foundation. As long adequate bolts were retrofitted the house is seismically sound. The slab foundation was cheap and a new breed of contractors was born. Few strayed from the typical method and basement was too complex to be integrated with a concrete slab system. Another issue was waterproofing and dampness. Short life span of waterproofing membrane offered only a few good years for basement before homeowners had to excavate dirt around the entire basement for waterproofing replacement. Basement is too expensive per sf than framing a third story. </p>

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<p>Economic and avoiding lawsuit was the bottom line for home builders. Unless land cost is very high like at a coastal location where a 2 story would block ocean view and ocean view premium is $$$$$$$. Basement for a single story home then would make sense for the economic equation. Plumbing for a 2 story home by codes could be plastic while a 3 story home all plumbing including waste line must be cast iron. The basement triggers the 3 story plumbing requirement thus significantly increased construction cost. When a home buyer chooses the 3rd story option all plumbing has to be upgraded from plastic to iron.</p>
 
BK,



Wow....amazing with all your history.

One more questions....if economic and avoiding lawsuit was the bottom line for home builder, than why some home like in Colorado and other part of the US still built with basement...but yet their selling price is very reasonable.



Thanks,
 
<p>Colorado basement is the norm and meant to leak and have mold. Snow is the biggest reason for not having a slab foundation there. People live with it and shut up. Here is California consumers demand everything and the court system is seldom on the side of the deveopers and builders. Lawyers and poor construction in California are the reason for not having a basement to complicate legal matters. </p>

<p>Basement in California under the mechanical and building code requires large operable windows for light and ventilation. Egress to outside through french door and properly sized escape well made of concrete retaining walls equipped with steel ladder are just a few of the complicated code issue. Sump pump, toilet back flow, dual mechanical thermostat and separate zoned HVAC are few more financial obstacles. Foundation system is costly and wood floor framing of the main level limit the type of flooring finishes. Floor framing will deflect due to live load thus floor tiles will crack and lift. Light weight concrete poured over the floor will help but also added cost significantly. </p>

<p>Colorado has low land cost and builders can afford to give away more and have good profit margin. California land is too costly with added construction cost translated to higher selling price and IHB bears are staying away.</p>
 
Most homes in Floral Park have basements and grandma attics. Well composed windows are taller and narrow for a very picturesque effect. Beautiful from the outside but rooms are dark due to narrow windows. West Floral Park has mostly single story slab on grade homes without a basement. Windows are wide and horizontal without much variety to animate the elevation as a result the houses looks mundane and similar. Spaces inside is much brighter and has a better indoor outdoor relationship to the yard.
 
A neat article about geothermal heating and cooling ran in the local paper this past weekend. Basically, dig a bunch of DEEP holes in the ground, the deeper the better, and run pipes down the holes. The pipes carry whatever thermally conductive liquid you want to use, probably water or if in a freezing climate, antifreeze. Since the holes will have a constant temp year round, with the holes cooler than summer temps and hotter than winter temps, you get a nice boost to either cool or heat your home. That way your HVAC won't have to work as hard. They can be quite expensive, but you'd probably have to calculate a break-even, if any.
 
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