Augusta at Columbus Square

[shadax]

Lookie what I found.  The highly contaminated soil that you can't plant any trees otherwise your kids will die and and we will sue you because you promised not to plant any trees because the soil is so toxic disclosure.

Believe what you want.

Sorry I'm joining late to this, but is this all there is in the disclosures about the soil in Columbus Square?  Didn't the "don't plant fruit trees in CS" saying come from a thread from an old IHB thread?  I read that thread long ago, but don't recall if it was an actual quote from the disclosure or if it was an inference from what was said in the disclosure.  Are these two pages the only things said about the soil in CS?

Agree-  If all of the disclosures aren't posted completely, what does it prove?

 

[usctrojancpa]

Looks like those Augusta homes have already hit MLS and the builder is offering a $10k broker co-op...why the slow sales Test???
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/1447-Montgomery-St-92782/home/12249363

 

[shadax]

Looks like those Augusta homes have already hit MLS and the builder is offering a $10k broker co-op...why the slow sales Test???
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/1447-Montgomery-St-92782/home/12249363

location, location, location.

 

[zakami]

Looks like those Augusta homes have already hit MLS and the builder is offering a $10k broker co-op...why the slow sales Test???
http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/1447-Montgomery-St-92782/home/12249363

location, location, location.

Exactly. Over-priced by at least $100,000.

 

[IndieDev]

I'd say more than $100,000.

These homes are zoned for some mediocre schools. Currie Middle School is one of the worst schools in OC.

 

[jvna]

Lookie what I found.  The highly contaminated soil that you can't plant any trees otherwise your kids will die and and we will sue you because you promised not to plant any trees because the soil is so toxic disclosure.

Believe what you want.

Sorry I'm joining late to this, but is this all there is in the disclosures about the soil in Columbus Square?  Didn't the "don't plant fruit trees in CS" saying come from a thread from an old IHB thread?  I read that thread long ago, but don't recall if it was an actual quote from the disclosure or if it was an inference from what was said in the disclosure.  Are these two pages the only things said about the soil in CS?

Agree-  If all of the disclosures aren't posted completely, what does it prove?

I'm not trying to disprove Test.  I really do want to know how the comment of "don't plant fruit plants in CS" came about.  Anyone know if it says that in the disclosures?

 

[usctrojancpa]

I'd say more than $100,000.

These homes are zoned for some mediocre schools. Currie Middle School is one of the worst schools in OC.

I wouldn't buy a home over in Columbus Square with Test's or NonFCB's money

 

[IndieDev]

I'd say more than $100,000.

These homes are zoned for some mediocre schools. Currie Middle School is one of the worst schools in OC.

I wouldn't buy a home over in Columbus Square with Test's or NonFCB's money

I couldn't buy a home over in Columbus Square with Test's or NonFCB's money.

 

[shokunin]

I'm not trying to disprove Test.  I really do want to know how the comment of "don't plant fruit plants in CS" came about.  Anyone know if it says that in the disclosures?

When we looked at Ciara at Columbus Grove (tustin side) there were disclosures to NOT plant any fruit or vegetable plants/trees due to soil conditions.  It was another nail in the coffin.  I don't think I kept that document, but do remember reading it because I thought wow what a coincidence Villages of Columbus is VOC (volatile organic compounds).


That was several years ago, not sure what is in the disclosures today.  Anyone interested should probably go to the sales office and ask for all CCR's, special tax docs, and disclosures.

 

[LAtoOC]

I'd say more than $100,000.

These homes are zoned for some mediocre schools. Currie Middle School is one of the worst schools in OC.

I wouldn't buy a home over in Columbus Square with Test's or NonFCB's money

I couldn't buy a home over in Columbus Square with Test's or NonFCB's money.

ooooooooooh burn

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I'm not trying to disprove Test.  I really do want to know how the comment of "don't plant fruit plants in CS" came about.  Anyone know if it says that in the disclosures?

When we looked at Ciara at Columbus Grove (tustin side) there were disclosures to NOT plant any fruit or vegetable plants/trees due to soil conditions.  It was another nail in the coffin.  I don't think I kept that document, but do remember reading it because I thought wow what a coincidence Villages of Columbus is VOC (volatile organic compounds).


That was several years ago, not sure what is in the disclosures today.  Anyone interested should probably go to the sales office and ask for all CCR's, special tax docs, and disclosures.

That was our experience too.

 

[zakami]

I guess they are really not selling. Received this via email:

Hello from Augusta at Columbus Square,

We hope you have had a chance to visit our new community, Augusta at Columbus Square in the last 3 weeks.  If not, please come by this weekend.  We have a great 4th of JULY PROMOTION.

If you purchase a home by July 10th, you will receive a Washer, Dryer and Refrigerator!  Please call, email or visit us this weekend!

Best regards and have a Happy and Safe 4th of July!

 

[irvinehomeowner]

I actually went to these finally.

I like the layouts... unlike most of the new homes, even though there is a great room, they didn't forget an extra downstairs living space that you can use as a formal dining, living, parlor or music room. And... there is an upstairs loft space on all plans.

I don't like the disconnected garage entries in Plan 1 and 2 but can see how it's utilized as a pseudo CaliRoom in Plan 1. In Plan 2, they should have just enclosed it and made it a mud room.

Obviously Plan 3 with the 3CWG is my favorite but I do think the island could have been reduced to allow space for a nook table (like on the original plans test posted on page 1 of this thread). The huge porch area is great which is one pro about rear garages but I do miss the driveway.

The high MRs and location is probably what is keeping these from selling better. How Astoria (the ones in the same area but bigger floorplans) were able to sell for more is just indicative of what kind of bubble frenzy we were in. However, as my wife said, if something like these were in Irvine, we would really consider it (of course they would cost much more).

 

[Condo TRAP]

What's the sold pin count at?

 

[nathanT]

As of  Sunday,  3 out of 10 are sold.    No one put down a deposit for plan 3. 
Seems like they rushed on the design;  Odd how the architects manage to make the second floor look really busy.  A loft in place of bedroom 5 makes perfect sense.

 

[shadax]

As of  Sunday,  3 out of 10 are sold.    No one put down a deposit for plan 3. 
Seems like they rushed on the design;  Odd how the architects manage to make the second floor look really busy.  A loft in place of bedroom 5 makes perfect sense.

Agree!  it simply looks out of place...and shares a complete wall with one of the other secondary bedrooms (ew)

 

[rkp]

You're still not getting it.  $8k is not outrageous for a 3k sqft home.  Show me the mello roos for another 3k sqft home.  At least you're not buying the 4k sqft Gables model.  If you want to pay less mello roos then buy a smaller home or an older home.  Homes built in the 90's have a mello roos about half that.  Like I said, you need to compare apples to apples.

Here is an apples to apples comparison of 2 houses that just closed in the last 3 months - one in CG and one across the street in TF2.  Both houses sold for about the same price, are about the same size, and built around the same time.  Both feed into same Irvine schools and have similar neighborhoods.  Yes CG has more parks, pools, and a clubhouse but its larger so ratio of park+pool is similar minus the clubhouse.  The point is that these 2 houses are VERY similar yet the MR is $6000 MORE.  Please explain the benefit of that $6000 more per year.

TF2 -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/401-Hudson-Dr-92782/home/5957075
tax for TF2 house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43437159&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-155&Suffix=00

CG -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/Undisclosed-address-92782/home/7215204
tax for CG house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43448146&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-165&Suffix=00

 

[nathanT]

I saw the sign "This area or product may cause cancer ..." right inside the the sales office entrance.  Does anyone have additional information on this?
btw, the "or product" part of the sentence really help lighten the warning.  I would imagine "This area may cause cancer" would send everyone running.

 

[test]

You're still not getting it.  $8k is not outrageous for a 3k sqft home.  Show me the mello roos for another 3k sqft home.  At least you're not buying the 4k sqft Gables model.  If you want to pay less mello roos then buy a smaller home or an older home.  Homes built in the 90's have a mello roos about half that.  Like I said, you need to compare apples to apples.

Here is an apples to apples comparison of 2 houses that just closed in the last 3 months - one in CG and one across the street in TF2.  Both houses sold for about the same price, are about the same size, and built around the same time.  Both feed into same Irvine schools and have similar neighborhoods.  Yes CG has more parks, pools, and a clubhouse but its larger so ratio of park+pool is similar minus the clubhouse.  The point is that these 2 houses are VERY similar yet the MR is $6000 MORE.  Please explain the benefit of that $6000 more per year.

TF2 -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/401-Hudson-Dr-92782/home/5957075
tax for TF2 house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43437159&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-155&Suffix=00

CG -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/Undisclosed-address-92782/home/7215204
tax for CG house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43448146&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-165&Suffix=00

You just proved my point that CS taxes are not "outrageous" when CG is even higher.
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php?topic=1173.msg22263#msg22263

 

[shadax]

You're still not getting it.  $8k is not outrageous for a 3k sqft home.  Show me the mello roos for another 3k sqft home.  At least you're not buying the 4k sqft Gables model.  If you want to pay less mello roos then buy a smaller home or an older home.  Homes built in the 90's have a mello roos about half that.  Like I said, you need to compare apples to apples.

Here is an apples to apples comparison of 2 houses that just closed in the last 3 months - one in CG and one across the street in TF2.  Both houses sold for about the same price, are about the same size, and built around the same time.  Both feed into same Irvine schools and have similar neighborhoods.  Yes CG has more parks, pools, and a clubhouse but its larger so ratio of park+pool is similar minus the clubhouse.  The point is that these 2 houses are VERY similar yet the MR is $6000 MORE.  Please explain the benefit of that $6000 more per year.

TF2 -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/401-Hudson-Dr-92782/home/5957075
tax for TF2 house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43437159&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-155&Suffix=00

CG -http://www.redfin.com/CA/Tustin/Undisclosed-address-92782/home/7215204
tax for CG house - http://tax.ocgov.com/tcweb/tax_details.asp?APN=43448146&TaxYr=2010&CmpRevDte=79899275&RateTRA=13-165&Suffix=00

You just proved my point that CS taxes are not "outrageous" when CG is even higher.
http://www.talkirvine.com/index.php?topic=1173.msg22263#msg22263

Location's inferior, and they're both high.