Anybody in PS who have refinanced recently?

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rideBMC said:
Were you able to get proof of community master insurance from the HOA(s)?

For any HOA all you do is call the management company to get the name of their insurance company.  Then call the insurance company and ask them for their certificate of insurance for your particular association.  Easy peazy.
 
Very easy to obtain, however most insurance providers will charge $30-$100 to get the policy. If your lender is struggling figure this out, it might be due to restrictions on paying the $$$ upfront for a copy.

HOA Manager will guide you through the process of getting this done, but keep your wallet close by if fees are due.

My .02c
 
Yes, I got a copy of the declaration page but my mortgage bank is asking for a master insurance policy and the one provided by my HOA only covers common areas. Apparently there is another insurance I should be able to provide to get my refi application going.
 
USCTrojanCPA said:
rideBMC said:
Were you able to get proof of community master insurance from the HOA(s)?

For any HOA all you do is call the management company to get the name of their insurance company.  Then call the insurance company and ask them for their certificate of insurance for your particular association.  Easy peazy.

I wish it were that simple.  I tried this route and was told to go through a 3rd party processor where I then had to pay to get a copy of the policy.  I then had to pay again to get my new lender added to the condo policy.
 
The third party I go through is EOI direct. They always try to charge me but the fee should cover the lifetime of the loan as long as you don't change lenders. But I always have to remind them that I don't need to pay a fee. Such a scam.

My hoa master policy includes the following: property, liability, directors/officers, crime, umbrella earthquake, workers comp

My lender required separate walls-in coverage that I got through AAA. I've seen a variety of names: HO6, condo owner insurance, hazard insurance.
 
The declaration page I received from my HOA covers those too but my lender is insisting that it is missing a "master insurance" that is required.

I also have my own hazard/walls-in insurance through Triple A.

I'm confused as to what other community/condo/HOA insurance we are missing.

cheetos said:
The third party I go through is EOI direct. They always try to charge me but the fee should cover the lifetime of the loan as long as you don't change lenders. But I always have to remind them that I don't need to pay a fee. Such a scam.

My hoa master policy includes the following: property, liability, directors/officers, crime, umbrella earthquake, workers comp

My lender required separate walls-in coverage that I got through AAA. I've seen a variety of names: HO6, condo owner insurance, hazard insurance.
 
A master policy should cover Liability and Property at the bare minimum. I'd go back to your lender and ask what is specifically needed in addition to that. And then if it's still not resolved, talk to a supervisor.

For my loan I provided a declaration page but this didn't have my address listed (only the HOA name) so they rejected it. This was when I had to go through the third party to get a Certificate of Insurance that listed my address. Maybe that's what they need but are wording it terribly.
 
cheetos said:
A master policy should cover Liability and Property at the bare minimum. I'd go back to your lender and ask what is specifically needed in addition to that. And then if it's still not resolved, talk to a supervisor.

For my loan I provided a declaration page but this didn't have my address listed (only the HOA name) so they rejected it. This was when I had to go through the third party to get a Certificate of Insurance that listed my address. Maybe that's what they need but are wording it terribly.

The lender is saying that my community does not have building coverage and that is required. My community's coverage is for common areas only. I'm hoping someone who has knowledge in mortgage underwriting can chime in and give an opinion. If that kind of coverage is absolutely required and my community does not have it, I wonder how the buyers/owners in my community are able to get a loan.
 
rideBMC said:
cheetos said:
A master policy should cover Liability and Property at the bare minimum. I'd go back to your lender and ask what is specifically needed in addition to that. And then if it's still not resolved, talk to a supervisor.

For my loan I provided a declaration page but this didn't have my address listed (only the HOA name) so they rejected it. This was when I had to go through the third party to get a Certificate of Insurance that listed my address. Maybe that's what they need but are wording it terribly.

The lender is saying that my community does not have building coverage and that is required. My community's coverage is for common areas only. I'm hoping someone who has knowledge in mortgage underwriting can chime in and give an opinion. If that kind of coverage is absolutely required and my community does not have it, I wonder how the buyers/owners in my community are able to get a loan.

Do you have an attached wall or is our home not attached?
 
Detached condo but the lender is saying that it does not matter. I tried to argue that we do not share a wall with anyone.

jmoney74 said:
Do you have an attached wall or is our home not attached?
 
rideBMC said:
Detached condo but the lender is saying that it does not matter. I tried to argue that we do not share a wall with anyone.

jmoney74 said:
Do you have an attached wall or is our home not attached?

If you have a detached condo then you need insurance for the building... just like a regular SFR. 
 
I do and it is through AAA home insurance. However, the lender is saying that the community/HOA must have building insurance not just common areas.

jmoney74 said:
rideBMC said:
Detached condo but the lender is saying that it does not matter. I tried to argue that we do not share a wall with anyone.

jmoney74 said:
Do you have an attached wall or is our home not attached?

If you have a detached condo then you need insurance for the building... just like a regular SFR.
 
rideBMC said:
I do and it is through AAA home insurance. However, the lender is saying that the community/HOA must have building insurance not just common areas.

jmoney74 said:
rideBMC said:
Detached condo but the lender is saying that it does not matter. I tried to argue that we do not share a wall with anyone.

jmoney74 said:
Do you have an attached wall or is our home not attached?

If you have a detached condo then you need insurance for the building... just like a regular SFR.

That's really odd. You have insurance for the building and the Hoa has for common areas. Nothing else to cover.
 
jmoney74 said:
That's really odd. You have insurance for the building and the Hoa has for common areas. Nothing else to cover.

Exactly. But this lender just declined my refi because the community does not have the insurance for building coverage. Since this is a detached condo, I was under the impression that each unit is responsible for their own building. They said my home insurance is for walls-in coverage only.
 
hmm, with 2 hoa's, it's def not the master hoa (PS), it has to be the sub association, i'm assuming the dues aren't cheap either (that it covers only front landscaping)
 
AW said:
hmm, with 2 hoa's, it's def not the master hoa (PS), it has to be the sub association, i'm assuming the dues aren't cheap either (that it covers only front landscaping)

yes, it has to be from the sub-association but unfortunately they do not have it and according to the lender i will never be able to get a loan if the community does not have it >:(
 
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