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[quote author="irvine123" date=1245143161]any idea the no of short sales shows as "backup" in the 185 homes?</blockquote>
5 max?
 
saw 40 Vermillion , Irvine, CA 92603. Under contract for $419,000 with 1,450 SF, it was labled as a short sale. Does this deal go through? or just give it back to the lender?
 
Lots of closes have come through recently. Prices, as indicated via 3-month moving average, continue to head up:



<img src="http://www.ipoplaya.com/061609.jpg" alt="" />



Some of the increase is probably related to product mix. More higher-end properties have sold in June, as evidenced by the materially higher median price, and prices on these higher price point homes have been stickier than their cheaper cousins.



I am amazed at the holding power of Woodbury. Two closes there this week on Regal. They averaged only 13% off peak...
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245135735][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1245132826][quote author="nomogy" date=1245120778]USC or anybody,



Can you provide links to those houses that fell out of escrow?



Thx.</blockquote>
I don't have any links to those properties as they come from the active MLS searches that I have set up for my buyers. But here is a quick list of properties that have fell out of escrow the past week that I have seen:



46 Deer Track

15 Sovente

77 Trailwood

5 Carmichael</blockquote>


5 Carmichael went pretty much right back into escrow. I never saw 77 Trailwood go under contract... It's not showing as active right now as far as I can see.



I just added <a href="http://www.ipoplaya.com/">26 new escrow entrants</a> from the past five days. Had one go back active, 6 Milagra, since my last update.



I have 185 homes tracked that are in escrow and but not yet pending sale. That is 30% of the currently indicated 614 units on the market in Irvine...</blockquote>
I noticed 61 Duet got into escrow on the 13th. Wow, I wonder if it will close around $550k or under $300/sf. That would be over a 10% discount to my condo.
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1245323012]I noticed 2 more properties fell out of escrow today, including one that was pending.</blockquote>


I unfortunately have 15 new escrows not yet updated to offset that loss of 2... That's 15 new in the span of two days.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245362776][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1245323012]I noticed 2 more properties fell out of escrow today, including one that was pending.</blockquote>


I unfortunately have 15 new escrows not yet updated to offset that loss of 2... That's 15 new in the span of two days.</blockquote>
And the OCRegister reports that the median went above $400k for the first time in 7 months.



WE'VE HIT BOTTOM!!!



Just kidding.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245362776][quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1245323012]I noticed 2 more properties fell out of escrow today, including one that was pending.</blockquote>


I unfortunately have 15 new escrows not yet updated to offset that loss of 2... That's 15 new in the span of two days.</blockquote>
Yeah, but all those escrows are just sitting and sitting...I don't see a lot of closings. Btw, I personally know of one listing in escrow that is listed as "pending" while the listing agent waits for an answer from the bank on a short sale.
 
Not a lot of closings? I have 65 so far this month, which is a little slower than May it feels, but not slow...



The rally continues:



<img src="http://www.ipoplaya.com/062109.jpg" alt="" />



A condo just like my old one recently closed for $602K. It was in NP, which commands a premium for the same model, but didn't have granite, crown, built-ins, etc. or the premium associated with the location of my old place. I got $604K a year ago and based on this most recent comp, would probably get right around $600K if I still owned and sold today.



What that tells me is that the recent price rally has undone all the depreciation from last summer... I paid much more to rent over the past year so I've actually lost money by selling a year ago.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245629902]



What that tells me is that the recent price rally has undone all the depreciation from last summer... I paid much more to rent over the past year so I've actually lost money by selling a year ago.</blockquote>


Yeah, but you got out of the neighborhood right before I moved in, and you really can't put a price tag on the value of that smart move....
 
Timing the market is tricky for most people, as it is hard to predict the unpredictables. I sold a portion of my investments on the way down, and I was happy that I sold it when Dow finally hit 6700. Guess what, I would have been better off today if I have stayed put.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245629902]Not a lot of closings? I have 65 so far this month, which is a little slower than May it feels, but not slow...



The rally continues:



<img src="http://www.ipoplaya.com/062109.jpg" alt="" />



A condo just like my old one recently closed for $602K. It was in NP, which commands a premium for the same model, but didn't have granite, crown, built-ins, etc. or the premium associated with the location of my old place. I got $604K a year ago and based on this most recent comp, would probably get right around $600K if I still owned and sold today.



What that tells me is that the recent price rally has undone all the depreciation from last summer... I paid much more to rent over the past year so I've actually lost money by selling a year ago.</blockquote>


Are you regretting selling your house?
 
[quote author="Stuff It" date=1245757465]



Are you regretting selling your house?</blockquote>


Yup. If my company wasn't going under and my employment coming to an end, probably not nearly as much so. If we were still in the condo, we'd be able to eek out monthly break-even with my UI income. In the rental, even with UI, it'll mean dipping into savings by $1K per month. I hate spending reserves.
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245795119][quote author="Stuff It" date=1245757465]



Are you regretting selling your house?</blockquote>


Yup. If my company wasn't going under and my employment coming to an end, probably not nearly as much so. If we were still in the condo, we'd be able to eek out monthly break-even with my UI income. In the rental, even with UI, it'll mean dipping into savings by $1K per month. I hate spending reserves.</blockquote>
I must have missed this. You're paying more to rent? I thought you were paying the same so you were basically getting a bigger SFR for the same monthly cost.
 
IPO - Sorry to hear this. I hope it gets better for you. I know you were fighting the decision to sell for awhile. GOOD LUCK!



[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245795119]



Yup. If my company wasn't going under and my employment coming to an end, probably not nearly as much so. If we were still in the condo, we'd be able to eek out monthly break-even with my UI income. In the rental, even with UI, it'll mean dipping into savings by $1K per month. I hate spending reserves.</blockquote>
 
[quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245795119][quote author="Stuff It" date=1245757465]



Are you regretting selling your house?</blockquote>


Yup. If my company wasn't going under and my employment coming to an end, probably not nearly as much so. If we were still in the condo, we'd be able to eek out monthly break-even with my UI income. In the rental, even with UI, it'll mean dipping into savings by $1K per month. I hate spending reserves.</blockquote>
Don't worry, in due time your decision to sell will look like a great call. Prices for my old condos are down to the high $500k.
 
[quote author="irvine_home_owner" date=1245795469]

I must have missed this. You're paying more to rent? I thought you were paying the same so you were basically getting a bigger SFR for the same monthly cost.</blockquote>


Yessir, I am paying way more to rent. Bigger spend for a bigger place...
 
[quote author="usctrojanman29" date=1245800222][quote author="ipoplaya" date=1245795119][quote author="Stuff It" date=1245757465]



Are you regretting selling your house?</blockquote>


Yup. If my company wasn't going under and my employment coming to an end, probably not nearly as much so. If we were still in the condo, we'd be able to eek out monthly break-even with my UI income. In the rental, even with UI, it'll mean dipping into savings by $1K per month. I hate spending reserves.</blockquote>
Don't worry, in due time your decision to sell will look like a great call. Prices for my old condos are down to the high $500k.</blockquote>


I don't think prices have fallen that much in QH either. 90 Canopy just closed with a 221 CS. 8 Tall Oak was a 227. When the cost of upgrades is factored in to the basis on your old condo, your sale was a 228 CS value. If you'd have paid for labor on those upgrades vs. doing in yourself, your CS number would have probably have been around 220 meaning the two most recent sales would have actually been higher relative to yours.



I bet you'd be able to sell your old place today for $600K.
 
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