95% of one ethnic group within a street, tract, or village in Irvine. Any impact
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Living in a largely African American community does not scare me if that is your suggestion. I think many potential Irvine home buyers are looking for:
1) An area with a great school system
2) A safe city (i.e low crime rates)
3) Good location with convenient access to both work and social activities
If my neighborhood is missing any of the above, then I wouldn't want to live there regardless of racial makeup.
Compton is not as dangerous as it used to be. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/18/local/la-me-compton-crime-20110118. Murders in LA have dropped to 1967 levels. http://www.latimes.com/la-me-la-crime-20101217,0,3986809.story
Most of California's central valley is predominately hispanic and it's not a dangerous place to live.
You probably have a greater chance of having your car broken into or stolen in Irvine.
I am not sure why you and Panda are so bent on painting TI members or Irvine residents as so averse to Latino and African Americans. If you are uncomfortable living with a certain racial demographic, please don't expect comfort or reassurance from me or others on this board.
Yes there are areas in SoCal with high crime rates, poor schools, and high % of Latino and/or African American populations. Do I think that outcome is a function of the resident population's skin color? Hell no.
Race and class in America is a very complex issue. I am not perfect and I carry internal prejudices but I try to do my best and look past them. I hope you do as well.
I don't expect TI members, or anyone else to be swayed by my viewpoints. I think anyone who goes onto a messageboard and is persuaded by some random net denizen in their socio-political viewpoints needs to stop taking the internet so seriously.
Race and class are a complex issue, and I've never ever indicated that I dislike black or hispanic people. But you're not being honest if you're going to sit on your high throne and claim that you wouldn't have second thoughts about raising your kids in Compton, West Oakland, Reynosa, or Camden.
All parents--African American, Caucasian, Asian, Latino, etc...want to raise their kids in a safe place and provide them opportunities for a better life. Many sacrifice a great deal to achieve this ideal.
I am blessed to be in a position to have many opportunities in life and to choose where I live and send my kids to school. If cities like Compton, West Oakland etc... offered a safe environment, real opportunities for my children, and was a good location relative to work, then yes I would consider living there.
Some on this thread are indirectly suggesting that because of high percentages of certain minority groups automatically = a bad neighborhood. I reject this hypothesis.
I never mentioned anything about moving. I just wanted to point out that there are more than a handful of cities with a predominately hispanic population that are safe.
Last week, some of the whitest areas of Los Angeles had a significant increase in crime. Maybe it was a fluke since all of the police resources were spent searching for an imaginary shooter.http://crime.latimes.com/
RC... one day you may look back and reflect on your post and laugh at the irony (Matthew 7:3-5).
If you live right next to Asian gang bangers, you better make sure that they know you don't have any cash or valuables in the house. A big portion of home invasion robberies are done by Asian gangs, especially when the victims are Asians.
usctrojancpa
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As a "white" buyer, I could care less if property that I'm looking to buy has more of an certain ethnic mix as long as it is in a centrally located safe area. I've grown up in Huntington Beach and Irvine so I've experienced both ends of the spectrum and left comfortable living in both cities.
iacrenter
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frank69m said:
Living in a largely African American community does not scare me if that is your suggestion. I think many potential Irvine home buyers are looking for:
1) An area with a great school system
2) A safe city (i.e low crime rates)
3) Good location with convenient access to both work and social activities
If my neighborhood is missing any of the above, then I wouldn't want to live there regardless of racial makeup.
irvinehomeowner
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Whoah... when did Huntington Beach become one end of the spectrum opposite of Irvine?USCTrojanCPA said:
locolocal
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IndieDev said:
Compton is not as dangerous as it used to be. http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/18/local/la-me-compton-crime-20110118. Murders in LA have dropped to 1967 levels. http://www.latimes.com/la-me-la-crime-20101217,0,3986809.story
Most of California's central valley is predominately hispanic and it's not a dangerous place to live.
You probably have a greater chance of having your car broken into or stolen in Irvine.
usctrojancpa
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Well, I grew up by downtown HB and that area was and is mostly as white as vanilla ice cream.irvinehomeowner said:
iacrenter
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IndieDev said:
I am not sure why you and Panda are so bent on painting TI members or Irvine residents as so averse to Latino and African Americans. If you are uncomfortable living with a certain racial demographic, please don't expect comfort or reassurance from me or others on this board.
Yes there are areas in SoCal with high crime rates, poor schools, and high % of Latino and/or African American populations. Do I think that outcome is a function of the resident population's skin color? Hell no.
Race and class in America is a very complex issue. I am not perfect and I carry internal prejudices but I try to do my best and look past them. I hope you do as well.
IndieDev
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iacrenter said:
I don't expect TI members, or anyone else to be swayed by my viewpoints. I think anyone who goes onto a messageboard and is persuaded by some random net denizen in their socio-political viewpoints needs to stop taking the internet so seriously.
Race and class are a complex issue, and I've never ever indicated that I dislike black or hispanic people. But you're not being honest if you're going to sit on your high throne and claim that you wouldn't have second thoughts about raising your kids in Compton, West Oakland, Reynosa, or Camden.
iacrenter
Well-known member
IndieDev said:
All parents--African American, Caucasian, Asian, Latino, etc...want to raise their kids in a safe place and provide them opportunities for a better life. Many sacrifice a great deal to achieve this ideal.
I am blessed to be in a position to have many opportunities in life and to choose where I live and send my kids to school. If cities like Compton, West Oakland etc... offered a safe environment, real opportunities for my children, and was a good location relative to work, then yes I would consider living there.
Some on this thread are indirectly suggesting that because of high percentages of certain minority groups automatically = a bad neighborhood. I reject this hypothesis.
panda
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Sorry for the misunderstanding IAC. The purpose of this thread was not make a point if property values rise with a high concentration of whites and asians, and if the property values sour if the subdivision has a high contraction of black and hispanics.
Everyone here knows that Irvine's ethnic make up is largely made up of Whites and Asians. What i wanted to know from this thread is if a subdivison in Irvine has a 99% concentration of one Asian ethnic group whether it be Korean, Chinese, Indian etc, would the subdivision have a negative effect on the resell value, when the Asian owner tries to resell the home in next 10 years.
What i gather from the thread is the following. Some white buyer may mind, but most would not mind due the desirability and location of living in Irvine. Also since there are enough Asian buyers, the possible lack of interest from White buyers would not have any negative impact in property values.
Is my conclusion correct from what i've read from this thread?
Everyone here knows that Irvine's ethnic make up is largely made up of Whites and Asians. What i wanted to know from this thread is if a subdivison in Irvine has a 99% concentration of one Asian ethnic group whether it be Korean, Chinese, Indian etc, would the subdivision have a negative effect on the resell value, when the Asian owner tries to resell the home in next 10 years.
What i gather from the thread is the following. Some white buyer may mind, but most would not mind due the desirability and location of living in Irvine. Also since there are enough Asian buyers, the possible lack of interest from White buyers would not have any negative impact in property values.
Is my conclusion correct from what i've read from this thread?
iacrenter said:
locolocal
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IndieDev said:
I never mentioned anything about moving. I just wanted to point out that there are more than a handful of cities with a predominately hispanic population that are safe.
Last week, some of the whitest areas of Los Angeles had a significant increase in crime. Maybe it was a fluke since all of the police resources were spent searching for an imaginary shooter.http://crime.latimes.com/
Irvine2Irvine
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I think it is more economy than ethnicity. If I think about the Hispanics and African Americans living in Irvine, I do not envision them as criminals. They are just like whites and asians. They live in Irvine for safety and good education among other reasons. If I think about some Asian crowd in Westminster or Long Beach, I can easily associated them as gang bangers.
If a person has the wealth, he/she will usually move to a nicer neighborhood. If a person does not have the wealth, then the person will most likely end up in a less desirable neighborhood. It doesn't matter what race you are. It just happens that higher percentage of Hispanics and African Americans cannot afford to live in the nicer neighborhood.
If a person has the wealth, he/she will usually move to a nicer neighborhood. If a person does not have the wealth, then the person will most likely end up in a less desirable neighborhood. It doesn't matter what race you are. It just happens that higher percentage of Hispanics and African Americans cannot afford to live in the nicer neighborhood.
irvinehomeowner
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Hah... RC... you're a Boy in Da Hood! Wesssaaaayyyeeeeed! Regulators.... roll out!Irvine2Irvine said:
roundcorners
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this is just me, but I would rather live next to some Asian gang bangers and other assorted bag of misfits than next to some of my current Irvine Asian neighbors...
why would you want to live next to people who:
--Could careless about you; you will NEVER see, visit or get to know
--your kids won't be able to play with them, as their kids are stuck inside studying or playing the violin
--Are either too busy or don't care to develop a sense of community
--tacky, chain smoke in jump suits and have their dog crap all over your lawn
--compare you and instantly judge you on what you drive, what you wear and where you work
--are out to out competite, out purchase, out spend, up anything you do
--at best feel crushing alone and worst a constant hostile atmosphere..
good luck on your property value...
why would you want to live next to people who:
--Could careless about you; you will NEVER see, visit or get to know
--your kids won't be able to play with them, as their kids are stuck inside studying or playing the violin
--Are either too busy or don't care to develop a sense of community
--tacky, chain smoke in jump suits and have their dog crap all over your lawn
--compare you and instantly judge you on what you drive, what you wear and where you work
--are out to out competite, out purchase, out spend, up anything you do
--at best feel crushing alone and worst a constant hostile atmosphere..
good luck on your property value...
irvinehomeowner
Well-known member
That's Strong Beach... or the LBC... fo shizzle.Panda said:
RC... one day you may look back and reflect on your post and laugh at the irony (Matthew 7:3-5).
Irvine2Irvine
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roundcorners said:this is just me, but I would rather live next to some Asian gang bangers and other assorted bag of misfits than next to some of my current Irvine Asian neighbors...
why would you want to live next to people who:
--Could careless about you; you will NEVER see, visit or get to know
--your kids won't be able to play with them, as their kids are stuck inside studying or playing the violin
--Are either too busy or don't care to develop a sense of community
--tacky, chain smoke in jump suits and have their dog crap all over your lawn
--compare you and instantly judge you on what you drive, what you wear and where you work
--are out to out competite, out purchase, out spend, up anything you do
--at best feel crushing alone and worst a constant hostile atmosphere..
good luck on your property value...
If you live right next to Asian gang bangers, you better make sure that they know you don't have any cash or valuables in the house. A big portion of home invasion robberies are done by Asian gangs, especially when the victims are Asians.