MsHouseHunter
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We like Woodbury too, we just haven't seen a floor plan we've liked much there compared to some of the other neighborhoods in North Irvine (at least in our price range).
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3 New California Pacific Communities in Portola Springs Late 2021
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The homes will appreciate very well over time, especially as the new home construction ends in Portola Springs and Orchard Hills (excluding the Great Park). I wouldn't have recommended this home to my dad if I didn't think this tract of homes wouldn't appreciate into the future. I think they'll be bumping the base prices by approx. 1% per phase until they see the market slowing down. I took my dad to Highlands but he didn't like how the neighborhood looked with not being able to park in front of the home.
Don't get too excited! I thought the same but Kindergarten is only 2.5 hours so you'll still need to pay for childcare before/after school which is nearly the same as preschool/montessori.
I went to Sierra this morning since the model homes were closed yesterday due to the weather. I liked the layout of Plan 1 specially the entry way. I can see how one of your family member was wowed. However, I felt the living room/dining room was too small or crammed. Wish it was a bit bigger.
There was water damage on the Plan 3 model home from yesterday's rain so only got to see the Plan 2 again to compare.
I'm glad that I didn't waste my time to even get on the waitlist. This was after my wife read all the bad reviews about CalPac. I did try to get pre-approval, but Loandepot asked for too much financial statements, so I passed on it. I mean, we would only sign up as a back up for Bluffs and Highland anyway. We just wanted to see what 2X would look like, but never had any strong interest.
The fact that it happened in a model home is even more glaring tbh. I don?t think we can say that just because it doesn?t rain that often here that we should let them off the hook either. Let?s not act like we are expecting the builder to have the home be asteroid proof.
Eh. Not me. They can build 126 new houses and have 126 different problems. You buy one like this and find out 9 months later when it rains you have a leak it probably is a shitty feeling. You have a couple of minor issues, probably not that bad. As long as they fix it without much hassle, everything will be alright.
I see this kinda stuff all the time with cars. Saw someone buy a brand new Boxster and called the salesman 45 min later after he left the dealership saying he?s stranded on the side of the road and the display read catastrophic failure. Somehow a brand new Porsche had metal shavings run through the engine and pretty much blew the motor in 20 miles. Same crap with Honda, Lexus, Audi, BMW etc. You never know..
Who?s saying let them off the hook? I?m saying we don?t know what happened. A window could have been left over the day prior when they were closed because of the rain or something might not have been sealed properly during the build. Who knows? I?m saying people shouldn?t overreact and start bashing on them.
I?m not sure if you contracted on one of the homes or not, but me and a few other people here did. And yes, 1.4M+ is a lot. It?s over 1.6M for me.
So people on this thread all of a sudden saying ?im glad I didn?t waste my time on the Sierra? or ?if they can?t even get the model house right? what good does that do? And what can I do about it? Go up to Robin and Vivian at the sales office and say WTF? Guarantee me this won?t happen to my house in writing or I?m cancelling?
As long as they fix it right away, it will be fine. That?s what the warranty is for. And if we are unlucky and have problems we will see how good or bad their warranty process is.
Can?t really tell me using ?relax? might not be the right word when the first words that came from your response was ?laughing out loud?.
You can?t do anything besides pray if you?re already in contract. Me bringing it up the way I did is for people that did not get in contract yet. Knowing that model homes generally do not leave their windows open and for them to not allow people in the model due to water damage is worth being concerned about.
How is it overreacting when they did not allow visitors in the home due to water damage? It?s not something you can wipe off and show the model right after. Shows it?s not a minor issue right? So yes, future buyers should be concerned. I?m surprised you?re downplaying it tbh.
And yes, I said lol because it?s quite embarrassing. Maybe I should have done a face palm emoji instead?
How am I down playing it? I?m choosing not to overreact or bash a company because something like this happened in their model home. It hasn?t happen to my home. And just because it happened to this one doesn?t mean it will or will not happen to mine. It?s manufacturing and shit happens. What good comes from saying haha your shit sucks. Lol, you should be embarrassed you didn?t even know your model home had a leak.
I had a water leak in my first house in MD. The contractors cut the baseboard outside the door to my deck and sawed right through the flashing. I didn?t see the water damage in the basement until 1.5 years later. It took them 3 different visits to figure it out and in the end they fixed all of it even though our warranty was over.
Again, should I go to the ladies and say WTF. Make demands that they guarantee me this won?t happen or else? All the houses that are being built around there that aren?t finished got poured on the other day. What we gonna say bout that? Oh at least it rained when the houses weren?t finished yet? We should be good? There?s no damage?.
It would be a different story if all 3 of the model homes had the same water damage. Or all of them plus the condos right across the street. If that happened, my reaction would be different. I would def cancel, but that?s not the case.
My main point of the exchange with you is you feel people are overreacting and shouldn't be. Again, model homes DO NOT open their windows and because they blocked viewing of the model with the water damage, that is sufficient information needed to conclude that this is a big issue and not a minor one. Based off of that information, it would be a legitimate concern for a POTENTIAL buyer unless you have more details of what exactly happened. NOT someone in contract. Again, the only thing you can do is just pray everyday that it won't happen to your home if you're already in contract.
usctrojancpa
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SWATeam said:USCTrojanCPA said:
Awesome. Look forward to seeing you Martin.
By the way, what's your thoughts on resale value/appreciation for each Sierra Plan (1-3) based off what you've seen so far?
The homes will appreciate very well over time, especially as the new home construction ends in Portola Springs and Orchard Hills (excluding the Great Park). I wouldn't have recommended this home to my dad if I didn't think this tract of homes wouldn't appreciate into the future. I think they'll be bumping the base prices by approx. 1% per phase until they see the market slowing down. I took my dad to Highlands but he didn't like how the neighborhood looked with not being able to park in front of the home.
bkimxmd said:SWATeam said:bkimxmd said:
I'm pretty sure we're going to be neighbors at this point and our 2 girls are going to grow up with your 2 boys. We should trade contacts
How old are your girls? My boys are 4 going to kindergarten next fall. Paying for preschool will finally be over soon!
Don't get too excited! I thought the same but Kindergarten is only 2.5 hours so you'll still need to pay for childcare before/after school which is nearly the same as preschool/montessori.
SWATeam said:
I went to Sierra this morning since the model homes were closed yesterday due to the weather. I liked the layout of Plan 1 specially the entry way. I can see how one of your family member was wowed. However, I felt the living room/dining room was too small or crammed. Wish it was a bit bigger.
There was water damage on the Plan 3 model home from yesterday's rain so only got to see the Plan 2 again to compare.
The Motor Court Company
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water damage in the model? how bad is it like a leaky roof? not a good omen even in this crazy seller's market.
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sleepy5136
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lol water damage in the model? that is quite concerning if I'm a buyer. If they can't get the model right, what makes you think they will get your home right?
CalBears96
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sleepy5136 said:
I'm glad that I didn't waste my time to even get on the waitlist. This was after my wife read all the bad reviews about CalPac. I did try to get pre-approval, but Loandepot asked for too much financial statements, so I passed on it. I mean, we would only sign up as a back up for Bluffs and Highland anyway. We just wanted to see what 2X would look like, but never had any strong interest.
Lol. Relax. Sh** happens. 3rd new house I am buying. They all have their fair share of problems. It?s not like Cal Pacific or Irvine Pacific is making the houses from a factory and just planting them in place. At the end of the day they all use contractors to put them together. Some problems you would never know until it rains, and it never rains here.
Who knows? Someone might have just left a window open. Let?s not sit here and freak people out. This is why they provide a warranty.
Who knows? Someone might have just left a window open. Let?s not sit here and freak people out. This is why they provide a warranty.
The Motor Court Company
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yes, but it will be nice to know more details about the water damage. You do know that when selling your home, you have to disclose if there's any water damage in the past 3 years (I believe)? Sure it will be fixed under warranty but it may make some buyers uncomfortable.
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sleepy5136
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I don?t know if relax is the right word when one is spending 1.4m+ on an asset. Water damage is a serious matter in a home and if not taken care of can lead to very expensive repairs depending on the issue. So yes, people should feel uncomfortable about this situation.bkimxmd said:
The fact that it happened in a model home is even more glaring tbh. I don?t think we can say that just because it doesn?t rain that often here that we should let them off the hook either. Let?s not act like we are expecting the builder to have the home be asteroid proof.
The California Court Company said:
Eh. Not me. They can build 126 new houses and have 126 different problems. You buy one like this and find out 9 months later when it rains you have a leak it probably is a shitty feeling. You have a couple of minor issues, probably not that bad. As long as they fix it without much hassle, everything will be alright.
I see this kinda stuff all the time with cars. Saw someone buy a brand new Boxster and called the salesman 45 min later after he left the dealership saying he?s stranded on the side of the road and the display read catastrophic failure. Somehow a brand new Porsche had metal shavings run through the engine and pretty much blew the motor in 20 miles. Same crap with Honda, Lexus, Audi, BMW etc. You never know..
sleepy5136 said:
Who?s saying let them off the hook? I?m saying we don?t know what happened. A window could have been left over the day prior when they were closed because of the rain or something might not have been sealed properly during the build. Who knows? I?m saying people shouldn?t overreact and start bashing on them.
I?m not sure if you contracted on one of the homes or not, but me and a few other people here did. And yes, 1.4M+ is a lot. It?s over 1.6M for me.
So people on this thread all of a sudden saying ?im glad I didn?t waste my time on the Sierra? or ?if they can?t even get the model house right? what good does that do? And what can I do about it? Go up to Robin and Vivian at the sales office and say WTF? Guarantee me this won?t happen to my house in writing or I?m cancelling?
As long as they fix it right away, it will be fine. That?s what the warranty is for. And if we are unlucky and have problems we will see how good or bad their warranty process is.
Can?t really tell me using ?relax? might not be the right word when the first words that came from your response was ?laughing out loud?.
sleepy5136
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Model homes do not leave their windows opened? so unless some person opened it then yes. But generally they are closed.bkimxmd said:
You can?t do anything besides pray if you?re already in contract. Me bringing it up the way I did is for people that did not get in contract yet. Knowing that model homes generally do not leave their windows open and for them to not allow people in the model due to water damage is worth being concerned about.
How is it overreacting when they did not allow visitors in the home due to water damage? It?s not something you can wipe off and show the model right after. Shows it?s not a minor issue right? So yes, future buyers should be concerned. I?m surprised you?re downplaying it tbh.
And yes, I said lol because it?s quite embarrassing. Maybe I should have done a face palm emoji instead?
sleepy5136 said:
How am I down playing it? I?m choosing not to overreact or bash a company because something like this happened in their model home. It hasn?t happen to my home. And just because it happened to this one doesn?t mean it will or will not happen to mine. It?s manufacturing and shit happens. What good comes from saying haha your shit sucks. Lol, you should be embarrassed you didn?t even know your model home had a leak.
I had a water leak in my first house in MD. The contractors cut the baseboard outside the door to my deck and sawed right through the flashing. I didn?t see the water damage in the basement until 1.5 years later. It took them 3 different visits to figure it out and in the end they fixed all of it even though our warranty was over.
Again, should I go to the ladies and say WTF. Make demands that they guarantee me this won?t happen or else? All the houses that are being built around there that aren?t finished got poured on the other day. What we gonna say bout that? Oh at least it rained when the houses weren?t finished yet? We should be good? There?s no damage?.
It would be a different story if all 3 of the model homes had the same water damage. Or all of them plus the condos right across the street. If that happened, my reaction would be different. I would def cancel, but that?s not the case.
sleepy5136
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Again, my point was never on what options you have when you're already in contract. In addition, my argument was never that shit doesn't happen. Of course shit happens. But water damage? I hope you realize there are levels to shits that happen. If you want to defend the builder and play it down. So be it. Let's agree to disagree.bkimxmd said:
My main point of the exchange with you is you feel people are overreacting and shouldn't be. Again, model homes DO NOT open their windows and because they blocked viewing of the model with the water damage, that is sufficient information needed to conclude that this is a big issue and not a minor one. Based off of that information, it would be a legitimate concern for a POTENTIAL buyer unless you have more details of what exactly happened. NOT someone in contract. Again, the only thing you can do is just pray everyday that it won't happen to your home if you're already in contract.