Orchard Hills 4 - "The Summit" Updates

NEW -> Contingent Buyer Assistance Program
I won’t get into too much here but this goes back to my original comment of only you knowing what you are comfortable paying.

Leveraging debt can be a good thing; 4.25% interest wrt to my risk profile is still low vs. the opportunity costs to invest elsewhere.

Panda’s been on the forum for a long time so I’m familiar with his risk profile. If I had listened to him 15 years ago then I’d probably be posting to you all in Georgia to give advice on TalkIrvine…

With that being said, wow, 15 years (more like 20 years if you were here with us when we were all on the Irvine Housing Blog in 2006) is a heck of a long time and it’s really cool to go back in time and revisit all our posts/concerns about the Irvine housing market and to see where it is today!

Irvine home appreciation outperformed Georgia appreciation by a big margin since Covid. Yes Irvine is expensive but any desirable is expensive and will continue to be expensive.
 
I paid $4m for my home with $1m down (could have put more but wanted to stay liquid to help my contingent buyers). My all-in housing cost is not for the faint of heart or wallet...

$14k/mo mortgage
$3.5k/mo property tax
$240/mo insurance (I'm sure this will be going up when I get my renewal in June)
$185/mo HOA
$150/mo for the pool guy
$150/mo for the gardener

Funny thing is that even though I have a single story home, I have an upstairs loft which I don't use. I'll live in this home until I retire as it checks all of the boxes that I was looking for, including the 3-car garage.
 
I paid $4m for my home with $1m down (could have put more but wanted to stay liquid to help my contingent buyers). My all-in housing cost is not for the faint of heart or wallet...

$14k/mo mortgage
$3.5k/mo property tax
$240/mo insurance (I'm sure this will be going up when I get my renewal in June)
$185/mo HOA
$150/mo for the pool guy
$150/mo for the gardener

Funny thing is that even though I have a single story home, I have an upstairs loft which I don't use. I'll live in this home until I retire as it checks all of the boxes that I was looking for, including the 3-car garage.
I'm assuming since you're self employed you don't have a way to maximize the 401k contributions? How do you go about saving for retirement? I know you can always do a max of 7k backdoor roth but besides that what options do you have
 
I'm assuming since you're self employed you don't have a way to maximize the 401k contributions? How do you go about saving for retirement? I know you can always do a max of 7k backdoor roth but besides that what options do you have

I can contribute up to 25% of my net income to a SEP IRA up to $69,000 in 2024 so it's even better than a 401k which has lower limits. I'm been maxing out my SEP IRA contributions for the past 15 years.
 
I paid $4m for my home with $1m down (could have put more but wanted to stay liquid to help my contingent buyers). My all-in housing cost is not for the faint of heart or wallet...

$14k/mo mortgage
$3.5k/mo property tax
$240/mo insurance (I'm sure this will be going up when I get my renewal in June)
$185/mo HOA
$150/mo for the pool guy
$150/mo for the gardener

Funny thing is that even though I have a single story home, I have an upstairs loft which I don't use. I'll live in this home until I retire as it checks all of the boxes that I was looking for, including the 3-car garage.
You must have been making at least $500k per year to qualify for a $3m loan.
 
The interesting thing that I've been running into with more and more of my sellers now is that their gains are north of $500k so analyzing the tax situation is becomes a very important discussion. A lot of those sellers are selling and moving that equity into their next purchase to keep the mortgage amounts very manageable. When it's time to retire, I'll most likely move to Las Vegas and take the net sales proceeds from the sale of my home and buy a home out there for all cash to not have a mortgage.
 
I paid $4m for my home with $1m down (could have put more but wanted to stay liquid to help my contingent buyers). My all-in housing cost is not for the faint of heart or wallet...

$14k/mo mortgage
$3.5k/mo property tax
$240/mo insurance (I'm sure this will be going up when I get my renewal in June)
$185/mo HOA
$150/mo for the pool guy
$150/mo for the gardener

Funny thing is that even though I have a single story home, I have an upstairs loft which I don't use. I'll live in this home until I retire as it checks all of the boxes that I was looking for, including the 3-car garage.
Balance sheet poor!
 
Any creative discussion points or just just calculating capital gains (15/20% + 3.8% NIIT + 9.3% CA ) tax will be owed above $500k?

Before a calculation of the tax there needs to be a deep dive into calculating the basis of the home by looking at closing costs paid at the time of purchase, tallying up all improvements made to the home (this includes any personal property that is sold like refrigerator/s, W/D, furniture, etc), and then the costs to get the home ready to sell along with the closing costs. Also, there's a bit of a loophole where if you rent a sell your primary residence after renting it for 2 years but before 3 years from departing it you can take your $500k gain exemption cash out tax free and do a 1031 exchange into another rental property. After renting the move-up 1031 exchange purchase you can convert the home into your primary and keep deferring the gains and accumulated depreciation.
 
Not balance sheet poor. He is parking 14k a month in a secured asset that is increasing in value. He can’t lose.
Yeah, I'm up to my eyeballs in loans but most all of my loans are real estate loans so those loans creative positive leverage for long-term appreciating assets.
should've added a "/s" for those that are late to the thread... @Martin - you know I know what you are doing!
 
C'mon UscTrojancpa,

You can't compare the appreciation of Irvine vs the entire state or Georgia. That is like comparing the appreciation of the top affluent zip codes and cities of North Atlanta vs the entire state of California.

I disagree that the Irvine home appreciation outperformed the "Irvine" like cities in Georgia in terms of demographics, top schools, and income by a big margin. Show me your data analysis, chart of Irvine from Covid and I will show you mine. Let's see who is correct. I can compare the home appreciation of an entire county in North Atlanta with similar median income, population size, and demographics with Irvine. Probably the same appreciation as Irvine, but certainly not beat by a wide margin like you mentioned.
Irvine home appreciation outperformed Georgia appreciation by a big margin since Covid. Yes Irvine is expensive but any desirable is expensive and will continue to be expensive.
 
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